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rezrez12 Nov 10, 2009 11:56 am

Mexicana OneWorld Lounge Access
 
Hi All,

I am a Platinum on AA, and was reading the lounge access for one world and it says the following:

1. American Airlines AAdvantageŽ Program: American Airlines AAdvantageŽ Program members, regardless of their tier status, may not use lounges when travelling on solely North American itineraries (defined as within or between the USA, Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean). In these cases, access rules are governed by American Airlines' own rules (ie paid lounge-access membership).

Does that mean that I can use the lounge during my flight from LAX - MEX - CUN and back from CUN - LAX?

It sounds like it's meant for us flying on AA, but I'm not really sure.

Also, does our status automatically get updated with Mexicana? I booked a flight a couple of weeks ago and am curious if I can get preferred seats now.

Thanks....
Rez

cxfan1960 Nov 11, 2009 1:05 am

My feeling is that access by tier status is governed by the airline the passenger has status with. I doubt AA will pay MX for lounge usages by AA members flying MX instead of AA. Many AA members will choose to fly MX then.

You should still have access by COS on MX though.

imagineertobe Nov 11, 2009 8:32 am


Originally Posted by rezrez12 (Post 12800347)
Hi All,

I am a Platinum on AA, and was reading the lounge access for one world and it says the following:

1. American Airlines AAdvantageŽ Program: American Airlines AAdvantageŽ Program members, regardless of their tier status, may not use lounges when travelling on solely North American itineraries (defined as within or between the USA, Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean). In these cases, access rules are governed by American Airlines' own rules (ie paid lounge-access membership).

Does that mean that I can use the lounge during my flight from LAX - MEX - CUN and back from CUN - LAX?

It sounds like it's meant for us flying on AA, but I'm not really sure.

Also, does our status automatically get updated with Mexicana? I booked a flight a couple of weeks ago and am curious if I can get preferred seats now.

Thanks....
Rez

This means that you will have lounge access in LAX and MEX (and CUN, I suppose) for your outbound leg since you are flying outside of the zone defined as North America (OP quoted, above), i.e., through MEX.

On the return, you are flying a North American leg, thus you will not have access to a lounge at either CUN or LAX.

HOWEVER, if you have OW Sapphire or Emerald status with any other OW airline, you would qualify for lounge access for the whole itinerary.


Originally Posted by cxfan1960
...You should still have access by COS on MX though.

COS does not change these rules except on transcon flights.Perhaps, and supposing OP is flying J.

See my lounge access wizard here.

cxfan1960 Nov 11, 2009 10:03 pm


Originally Posted by imagineertobe (Post 12805725)
COS does not change these rules except on transcon flights.[/URL].

I suppose MX allows business class passengers to have lounge access. If so, AA members should still have lounge access by COS (even though not by status) on MX flights. In the worst case, a J passenger can remove the AA membership info, and have lounge access just like a normal J passenger without any FF programme affiliation.

imagineertobe Nov 12, 2009 2:26 am


Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 12810626)
I suppose MX allows business class passengers to have lounge access.

In fact, this is true; see this link. However, OP never said which cabin (s)he is flying.

rezrez12 Nov 12, 2009 2:00 pm


Originally Posted by imagineertobe (Post 12811342)
In fact, this is true; see this link. However, OP never said which cabin (s)he is flying.

I'm flying in Y. :(

I actually purchased the tickets hoping that we might still be able to use the lounge. So, the consensus is that we'd be able to use it in LAX and MEX, but maybe not in CUN on the way back.

That would work perfectly since we have a 3 hour layover in MEX.

Thanks!

rezrez12 Nov 30, 2009 4:23 pm

Will I still have lounge access in Los Angeles even-though there is no dedicated MX lounge in LAX? There is a QF/BA/CX lounge. Will I have access??

Thanks!
Reza

Traveloguy Nov 30, 2009 4:48 pm


Originally Posted by rezrez12 (Post 12901795)
Will I still have lounge access in Los Angeles even-though there is no dedicated MX lounge in LAX? There is a QF/BA/CX lounge. Will I have access??

Thanks!
Reza

You should have access as per OneWorld rules and assuming you have access to the relevant terminal with your BP.

rezrez12 Nov 30, 2009 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by Traveloguy (Post 12901925)
You should have access as per OneWorld rules and assuming you have access to the relevant terminal with your BP.

I will be leaving out of the international terminal (bradley) which is where the cx/qf/ba lounge is. So, its good to know that I will have access to their lounge.

Thanks!

rezrez12 Dec 8, 2009 11:11 am

Update
 
Just to let everyone know. We checked in at LAX and were told that we could use the One World lounge at Tom Bradley. Once we arrived at the lounge the staff stated that we could not use the lounge because Mexicana had their own lounge and that they do not pay the One World lounge for our access and that we should try Mexicana's lounge.

We went downstairs to Mexicana's lounge and were told we would not have access there unless Mexicana gave us a little card which stated we have acess to their lounge.

So, in the end we were not able to access either lounge, and it was getting late, so we just went to the gate. Mexicana's Employees just don't seem to know exactly what they are doing.

In Mexico City we had no problem accessing the lounge.

GUWonder Dec 8, 2009 11:23 am


Originally Posted by rezrez12 (Post 12948470)
Just to let everyone know. We checked in at LAX and were told that we could use the One World lounge at Tom Bradley. Once we arrived at the lounge the staff stated that we could not use the lounge because Mexicana had their own lounge and that they do not pay the One World lounge for our access and that we should try Mexicana's lounge.

We went downstairs to Mexicana's lounge and were told we would not have access there unless Mexicana gave us a little card which stated we have acess to their lounge.

So, in the end we were not able to access either lounge, and it was getting late, so we just went to the gate. Mexicana's Employees just don't seem to know exactly what they are doing.

In Mexico City we had no problem accessing the lounge.

Were you attempting to access the lounge(s) at LAX based on your airline program elite status? If so, which program and status level? Or were you attempting lounge access based on the class of service being flown on a same-day Mexicana flight to Mexico City?

serfty Dec 8, 2009 7:08 pm


Originally Posted by rezrez12 (Post 12948470)
... Once we arrived at the lounge the staff stated that we could not use the lounge because Mexicana had their own lounge and that they do not pay the One World lounge for our access and that we should try Mexicana's lounge. ...

This is contrary to oneworld lounge access rules for AA Sapphire passengers:

AAdvantage PlatinumŽ

Equivalent to oneworld Sapphire

Lounge access benefits: When travelling internationally* on any of the oneworld member airlines, regardless of the class of service, a Sapphire equivalent member and one guest will be welcome in any of the exclusive airline pre-flight Business Class and Frequent Flyer lounges.

* Solely North American itineraries within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean are not considered international destinations. This exception applies to AAdvantage members only and not to any other oneworld Frequent Flyer programme members.
Did the Lounge agent not know that MX is now a oneworld carrier?

serfty Dec 8, 2009 7:10 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 12948554)
Were you attempting to access the lounge(s) at LAX based on your airline program elite status? If so, which program and status level? Or were you attempting lounge access based on the class of service being flown on a same-day Mexicana flight to Mexico City?

AA Platinum as per post #1 and in WHY as per post #6.

SkyTeam777 Jan 23, 2010 3:53 pm


Originally Posted by rezrez12 (Post 12948470)
Just to let everyone know. We checked in at LAX and were told that we could use the One World lounge at Tom Bradley. Once we arrived at the lounge the staff stated that we could not use the lounge because Mexicana had their own lounge and that they do not pay the One World lounge for our access and that we should try Mexicana's lounge.

We went downstairs to Mexicana's lounge and were told we would not have access there unless Mexicana gave us a little card which stated we have acess to their lounge.

So, in the end we were not able to access either lounge, and it was getting late, so we just went to the gate. Mexicana's Employees just don't seem to know exactly what they are doing.

In Mexico City we had no problem accessing the lounge.

This is awful! When people do online check-in they have no access to the invitation card from agents. Does this mean that premium pax would then have no lounge access at all? It makes no sense that MX pax cannot access the OneWorld lounge. Is this still the case?

FedUp2 Mar 30, 2010 1:35 pm

Beware of the Mexicana at MEX
 
Apropos the OW lounge at LAX, there should be no problem accessing the OW lounge (for Sapphire or Emerald members), regardless of the class they are flying on MX. FYI I did so last weekend.

Am in MEX today for an onward flight to South America and was shocked to find that the Mexicana lounge (up on the 3rd floor with a out-of-order elevator) actually charges money for food & alcoholic drinks, even for Emerald passengers flying MX/J! Happily, the AA Admirals Club one floor down has no such issues!


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