Leaving Australia without an exemption?
Does anyone out there know if Protected SCV 444 visa holders are allowed to leave Australia without an exemption.
my VEVO shows: Visa description TEMPORARY RESIDENT Document number XXXXXXX Visa class / subclass TY / 444 Just wondering if anyone has had any experience in this situation. Will border force /check-in just go off Vevo records? If they check my movement records it will be pretty clear im a protected SCV holder and classified as an eligible NZ citizen. |
Originally Posted by Croupier
(Post 32686127)
Does anyone out there know if Protected SCV 444 visa holders are allowed to leave Australia without an exemption.
https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/leaving-australia You are exempt if you are:
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Interesting, so for social security purposes I'm considered an Australian resident but for immigration purposes im a temporary resident.
Guess i need an exemption to return home to Australia. Been living in Australia for 44 years since I was 1yr old 🙄 Looks like I can therefore come and go as I please providing i have enough funds to pay for my hotel quarantine ect. EDIT: It appears to me that eligible NZ citizens whom reside in Australia have more freedom of international movement than Australian citizens. Even Non protected SCV holders who's usual place of residence is Australia have more freedoms. |
Wanting to travel to where?
Crossing a state border going in or out of Au? [More hassle than crossing the AU international border] As a NZ citizen normally resident Australia, you do not need an exemption to return to Australia. But can lodge a request if in doubt. With 44 year in Au unlikely to apply to you https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/a...anent-resident Crossing some other state border requires permission and/or the 14 days isolation, at own cost. WA requires an exemption to cross the state border. https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/d...irus-travel-wa Some of these Government web pages were updated 17 Sept |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 32687268)
Wanting to travel to where?
Crossing a state border going in or out of Au? |
I don’t know enough about it but is there a risk to your Centrelink etc status if you leave on an “old” SCV and return on a new one (that doesn’t allow Centrelink or various other things)? If it was me I’d probably have lots of deeper questions “just in case”
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Originally Posted by nancypants
(Post 32687555)
I don’t know enough about it but is there a risk to your Centrelink etc status if you leave on an “old” SCV and return on a new one (that doesn’t allow Centrelink or various other things)? If it was me I’d probably have lots of deeper questions “just in case”
"Since 2001, Kiwi new arrivals have been classified as "non-protected" SCV holders Unlike all other permanent residents, they are not entitled to unemployment benefit, student loans and, depending on the state, disability and maternity support, social housing or transport concessions. This is because, technically, these Kiwis are only "temporarily" residing in Australia even if some of them have lived there since their were toddlers" |
Very complex and confusing.
i guess i need to apply for a resident return visa? Travelling as a permanent residentAs an Australian permanent resident, there is a 5-year travel facility attached to your visa. You need to renew this when it expires if you want to travel outside Australia and return.This also applies to New Zealand citizens who lived in Australia before 1 September 1994. More information is in overseas travel as a permanent resident. Interestingly I have never been asked for a resident return visa in all my years traveling in and out of Australia. |
Originally Posted by Croupier
(Post 32687874)
Very complex and confusing.
i guess i need to apply for a resident return visa? Travelling as a permanent resident As an Australian permanent resident, there is a 5-year travel facility attached to your visa. You need to renew this when it expires if you want to travel outside Australia and return. This also applies to New Zealand citizens who lived in Australia before 1 September 1994. More information is in overseas travel as a permanent resident. Nothing to lose by applying for (federal) permission to leave and re-enter. I got my AU citizenship ~30 years ago. Now have AU & NZ passports. IMHO since 2001 has been worthwhile for NZ citizens living in AU to get the formal permanent resident visa or AU citizenship. In some ways refugees in AU have more rights in AU than someone from NZ who has been living/paying tax in AU for 20-30-40-50-60 years. |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 32687931)
From your post 1 Border Force says you are SCV444. Does it state "protected" or "unprotected"?
It states neither protected or unprotected what I posted was directly copied and pasted from the VEVO screen only i blanked out my passport number. |
Honestly it’s sufficiently complex that I’d want to ask for professional advice. Wouldn’t for example put it beyond this government to infer from you leaving as an SCV (vs PR- which would require an exemption) that you have voluntarily rescinded your protected status
but as I say, don’t know enough about this fairly complex subject (caveat: I am assuming that your previous exits/entries post 2001 haven’t already affected that) |
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