Practical advice on moving to SYD [from the UK]
#46
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Kent, UK
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Tax on Rental Income
Tax on rental income in the UK is only payable on any PROFIT.
Example:
Mortgage is £900 per month
Service charges and ground rent are £150 per month
I rent my flat for £800 per month
The agent charges 12.5% leaving me with £700
£700 - £900 - £150 = -£350
My rental income is negative therefore my total income for the tax year (assuming no other UK income) is less than 0 therefore there is no tax liability.
There are forms to fill in to inform HMRC of this exact situation.
Letting agents should not withold tax.
Example:
Mortgage is £900 per month
Service charges and ground rent are £150 per month
I rent my flat for £800 per month
The agent charges 12.5% leaving me with £700
£700 - £900 - £150 = -£350
My rental income is negative therefore my total income for the tax year (assuming no other UK income) is less than 0 therefore there is no tax liability.
There are forms to fill in to inform HMRC of this exact situation.
Letting agents should not withold tax.
#47
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: RSE
Programs: AA Exp|VA Platinum
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Thomas Dux is good, but they don't have many shops, so there might not be one near you.
It is my impression that people in Australia who want to shop "up-market" are more likely than people in Britain to get their meat from the butcher, their fish from the fishmonger, their fruit and vegetables from the greengrocer, and their fancy goods from the delicatessen. Of course, most food shopping is done at the supermarket (Coles, Woolworths, etc), but there seem to be more of the old-style, one-off shops remaining in Australia than there are in the UK.
It is my impression that people in Australia who want to shop "up-market" are more likely than people in Britain to get their meat from the butcher, their fish from the fishmonger, their fruit and vegetables from the greengrocer, and their fancy goods from the delicatessen. Of course, most food shopping is done at the supermarket (Coles, Woolworths, etc), but there seem to be more of the old-style, one-off shops remaining in Australia than there are in the UK.
FWIW the TD website lists stores at Mona Vale, Crows Nest, Lane Cove and Hornsby.
#48
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Sydney, Aus
Programs: QF WP, Starwood Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, Avis President's Club, Amex Platinum
Posts: 2,880
Tax on rental income in the UK is only payable on any PROFIT.
Example:
Mortgage is £900 per month
Service charges and ground rent are £150 per month
I rent my flat for £800 per month
The agent charges 12.5% leaving me with £700
£700 - £900 - £150 = -£350
My rental income is negative therefore my total income for the tax year (assuming no other UK income) is less than 0 therefore there is no tax liability.
There are forms to fill in to inform HMRC of this exact situation.
Letting agents should not withold tax.
Example:
Mortgage is £900 per month
Service charges and ground rent are £150 per month
I rent my flat for £800 per month
The agent charges 12.5% leaving me with £700
£700 - £900 - £150 = -£350
My rental income is negative therefore my total income for the tax year (assuming no other UK income) is less than 0 therefore there is no tax liability.
There are forms to fill in to inform HMRC of this exact situation.
Letting agents should not withold tax.
#49
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Terra Australis Cognita
Posts: 5,350
#51
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 690
OK just an update (and thanks for the further tips on food...)
So I will get LAFHA so can now afford to look for some houses in nicer areas than we were originally thinking. Also I get a relocation consultant to help out with finding suitable places, arranging the move, etc, so also great news there. I've set him an upper budget of $1500pw for a 4 bed house in Mosman, Cremorne, Neutral Bay - any idea if this is realistic?
Secondly I have a dilemma....I managed to use my Amex 241 to get F to SYD on roughly the dates I want! However this is for me and my daughter and so will still need to buy a WT+ or CW ticket for my wife, with the plan being we alternate in F (maybe go with WT+ as its behind F). My problem is I'm not sure this is a great use of miles as (1) my daughter won't really appreciate being in F as she's 2 (2) I or my wife will probably be constantly worried about her falling out of her seat when sleeping/being noisy/bored/etc.
The alternative would be we just go for all 3 of us in WT+ for the same miles (or more likely cash as there is no availability), which will be probably be easier to handle for all of us.
Hmmm....I really like the idea of F to SYD but just not sure this is the right time to do it
So I will get LAFHA so can now afford to look for some houses in nicer areas than we were originally thinking. Also I get a relocation consultant to help out with finding suitable places, arranging the move, etc, so also great news there. I've set him an upper budget of $1500pw for a 4 bed house in Mosman, Cremorne, Neutral Bay - any idea if this is realistic?
Secondly I have a dilemma....I managed to use my Amex 241 to get F to SYD on roughly the dates I want! However this is for me and my daughter and so will still need to buy a WT+ or CW ticket for my wife, with the plan being we alternate in F (maybe go with WT+ as its behind F). My problem is I'm not sure this is a great use of miles as (1) my daughter won't really appreciate being in F as she's 2 (2) I or my wife will probably be constantly worried about her falling out of her seat when sleeping/being noisy/bored/etc.
The alternative would be we just go for all 3 of us in WT+ for the same miles (or more likely cash as there is no availability), which will be probably be easier to handle for all of us.
Hmmm....I really like the idea of F to SYD but just not sure this is the right time to do it
#52
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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OK just an update (and thanks for the further tips on food...)
So I will get LAFHA so can now afford to look for some houses in nicer areas than we were originally thinking. Also I get a relocation consultant to help out with finding suitable places, arranging the move, etc, so also great news there. I've set him an upper budget of $1500pw for a 4 bed house in Mosman, Cremorne, Neutral Bay - any idea if this is realistic?
So I will get LAFHA so can now afford to look for some houses in nicer areas than we were originally thinking. Also I get a relocation consultant to help out with finding suitable places, arranging the move, etc, so also great news there. I've set him an upper budget of $1500pw for a 4 bed house in Mosman, Cremorne, Neutral Bay - any idea if this is realistic?
My grandfather recently passed away and my parents are in the process of his home on the lower North Shore, the guy they have been dealing with at Belle has been extremely helpful. I'd be happy to get his contact details and pass them along as he works the areas you mentioned.
Secondly I have a dilemma....I managed to use my Amex 241 to get F to SYD on roughly the dates I want! However this is for me and my daughter and so will still need to buy a WT+ or CW ticket for my wife, with the plan being we alternate in F (maybe go with WT+ as its behind F). My problem is I'm not sure this is a great use of miles as (1) my daughter won't really appreciate being in F as she's 2 (2) I or my wife will probably be constantly worried about her falling out of her seat when sleeping/being noisy/bored/etc.
#53
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Sydney, Aus
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I think that's a very realistic budget for that area. You COULD get a house that fits those requirements for less than $1000 a week - but paying $1500 a week would mean it's probably quite a nice one.
And Ben, that's depends on where you buy your investments. I like to rent where I want to live, and buy where I don't want to live :-)
The question I'd really be asking is why your employer is not flying you out !!
And Ben, that's depends on where you buy your investments. I like to rent where I want to live, and buy where I don't want to live :-)
The question I'd really be asking is why your employer is not flying you out !!
#54
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 690
They are paying but only the cost of a one way direct, non-changeable fare. I do have the option of either using my miles and they will pay the taxes, or buy a more expensive ticket and cover the extra cost myself. I'm starting to think that the paid WT+ x3 option is best for flexibility and tier points/miles which should allow me to renew Gold just before the end of my membership year.
#55
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Sydney, Aus
Programs: QF WP, Starwood Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, Avis President's Club, Amex Platinum
Posts: 2,880
They are paying but only the cost of a one way direct, non-changeable fare. I do have the option of either using my miles and they will pay the taxes, or buy a more expensive ticket and cover the extra cost myself. I'm starting to think that the paid WT+ x3 option is best for flexibility and tier points/miles which should allow me to renew Gold just before the end of my membership year.
#56
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#57
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 690
Just an update with about a week to go before we fly out...
Most importantly, I ended up buying us flights in discounted J...LHR-FRA-BKK on LH, stopover for 3 days then onwards to SYD on BA. I thought this wouldn't be possible with just an allowance based on Y but I managed to find an Expedia fare for £1700pp (one way), so in total its costing me an extra £2k^ My main worry now is what the transit in FRA will be like as I've heard horror stories about it...An added bonus is the BA flight requalifies me for BA Gold.
I've also decided to go through the long process of shipping my car over but I won't start that until I arrive. It seems a shame to sell it for so little especially when they cost so much over there. However I'm preparing myself for the fact it won't be cheap or quick, so if anyone knows a good shipping agent then let me know.
For removals we are using Allied Pickfords through my employer and they seem fairly efficient so far but lets see what condition it arrives in (in 3 months)
We've looked at a few places online but there isn't much at the moment, maybe that will change in Jan. We're still thinking of Mosman as well as Cremorne and Cammeray, as these seem to give a but better value for money.
Also opened a HSBC Premier account and will pick up my documents and cards when I arrive. Yet to set up a money transfer account but will do so with ozforex probably.
Finally I've been reading about Vodafone's troubles so it looks like either Telstra or Optus. I'm also looking to get a sim-only mobile broadband package until we move into somewhere permanent so let me know if anyone has a good bundle with a sim-only iPhone plan.
Its getting exciting but still lots of little tasks to do. Thanks for everyone's help!
Most importantly, I ended up buying us flights in discounted J...LHR-FRA-BKK on LH, stopover for 3 days then onwards to SYD on BA. I thought this wouldn't be possible with just an allowance based on Y but I managed to find an Expedia fare for £1700pp (one way), so in total its costing me an extra £2k^ My main worry now is what the transit in FRA will be like as I've heard horror stories about it...An added bonus is the BA flight requalifies me for BA Gold.
I've also decided to go through the long process of shipping my car over but I won't start that until I arrive. It seems a shame to sell it for so little especially when they cost so much over there. However I'm preparing myself for the fact it won't be cheap or quick, so if anyone knows a good shipping agent then let me know.
For removals we are using Allied Pickfords through my employer and they seem fairly efficient so far but lets see what condition it arrives in (in 3 months)
We've looked at a few places online but there isn't much at the moment, maybe that will change in Jan. We're still thinking of Mosman as well as Cremorne and Cammeray, as these seem to give a but better value for money.
Also opened a HSBC Premier account and will pick up my documents and cards when I arrive. Yet to set up a money transfer account but will do so with ozforex probably.
Finally I've been reading about Vodafone's troubles so it looks like either Telstra or Optus. I'm also looking to get a sim-only mobile broadband package until we move into somewhere permanent so let me know if anyone has a good bundle with a sim-only iPhone plan.
Its getting exciting but still lots of little tasks to do. Thanks for everyone's help!
#58
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Portland OR Double Emerald (QF and AA), DL PM/MM, Starwood Plat
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I lived in Cammeray for a year and it is my favourite part of Sydney to live in
FRA is a shambles for BA, always late, very disorganized and unpleasant facilities. LH is in another terminal (train between the 2, or walk 1km) and quite efficient and pleasant in J on the ground; the on-board J is a step down from BA J, more like QF PE; hence the often cheaper fares on routes where LH competes with BA. If you can't afford to miss the connection, the only sure way is to fly BA the day before (or switch to LH out of LHR, they seem to do much TXL-LHR, for ebetter). I refuse to fly BA FRA-LHR any more, due to all the problems (while BA is great xample).
FRA is a shambles for BA, always late, very disorganized and unpleasant facilities. LH is in another terminal (train between the 2, or walk 1km) and quite efficient and pleasant in J on the ground; the on-board J is a step down from BA J, more like QF PE; hence the often cheaper fares on routes where LH competes with BA. If you can't afford to miss the connection, the only sure way is to fly BA the day before (or switch to LH out of LHR, they seem to do much TXL-LHR, for ebetter). I refuse to fly BA FRA-LHR any more, due to all the problems (while BA is great xample).
#59
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Location: Portland OR Double Emerald (QF and AA), DL PM/MM, Starwood Plat
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Your only choice is Telstra for SYD north shore; much of Vodafone's problems are due to severe lack of capacity there (fine in much of the rest of Aust and Sydney). Optus is also bad in that area. Only Telstra has reliable service; presuming dropped calls don't look good for your lifestyle. Same for data, you get what you pay for and the cheaper plans are much slower; they all spec the same, but run much slower 23 hours a day.
#60
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,443
Your only choice is Telstra for SYD north shore; much of Vodafone's problems are due to severe lack of capacity there (fine in much of the rest of Aust and Sydney). Optus is also bad in that area. Only Telstra has reliable service; presuming dropped calls don't look good for your lifestyle. Same for data, you get what you pay for and the cheaper plans are much slower; they all spec the same, but run much slower 23 hours a day.
Telstra undoubtedly has the best coverage in remote areas of Australia, although in my experience you have to be truly remote for it to make any difference.
I have not used Vodafone...