Will Delta ruin NWA World Clubs?
Apr 5, 2009, 3:57 am
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Apr 5, 2009, 3:59 am
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VA has extremely strick laws which I'm sure is why the switch was made....most states would allow a self service system for a membership club
Apr 5, 2009, 9:52 am
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One note on the self-serve bars... you only have to be 18 for a CRC membership, but have to be 21 for a WC membership, and I'm pretty sure the self-serve alcohol is the difference.
Not that I imagine there are many 18-20-year-old lounge members.
Not that I imagine there are many 18-20-year-old lounge members.
Apr 5, 2009, 10:20 am
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Apr 5, 2009, 10:21 am
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The title of the thread goes a bit too far. The Delta and NW clubs were already the most similar in terms of how they were run; we are dancing on the head of a pin here. In their new construction, both airlines are going for a sleek, modern style--Delta a bit warmer, NW a bit cooler with colors.
I think NW has a quality edge partly because they got their two main hubs completely redone prior to going bankrupt. The clubs at Delta's main hubs had been thoroughly lived in when they went Chapter 11. In Atlanta, if you go to the new Crown Room on Concourse C (T-Gates are also nicer), you can get a better apples-to-apples picture with the very nice NW clubs in Detroit. Or check out Boston.
The two club rooms side-by-side in Newark are a good standard for comparison. They are very close in comfort and quality; NW's is less crowded.
I think NW has a quality edge partly because they got their two main hubs completely redone prior to going bankrupt. The clubs at Delta's main hubs had been thoroughly lived in when they went Chapter 11. In Atlanta, if you go to the new Crown Room on Concourse C (T-Gates are also nicer), you can get a better apples-to-apples picture with the very nice NW clubs in Detroit. Or check out Boston.
The two club rooms side-by-side in Newark are a good standard for comparison. They are very close in comfort and quality; NW's is less crowded.
Apr 5, 2009, 11:41 am
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The title of the thread goes a bit too far. The Delta and NW clubs were already the most similar in terms of how they were run; we are dancing on the head of a pin here. In their new construction, both airlines are going for a sleek, modern style--Delta a bit warmer, NW a bit cooler with colors.
I think NW has a quality edge partly because they got their two main hubs completely redone prior to going bankrupt. The clubs at Delta's main hubs had been thoroughly lived in when they went Chapter 11. In Atlanta, if you go to the new Crown Room on Concourse C (T-Gates are also nicer), you can get a better apples-to-apples picture with the very nice NW clubs in Detroit. Or check out Boston.
The two club rooms side-by-side in Newark are a good standard for comparison. They are very close in comfort and quality; NW's is less crowded.
I think NW has a quality edge partly because they got their two main hubs completely redone prior to going bankrupt. The clubs at Delta's main hubs had been thoroughly lived in when they went Chapter 11. In Atlanta, if you go to the new Crown Room on Concourse C (T-Gates are also nicer), you can get a better apples-to-apples picture with the very nice NW clubs in Detroit. Or check out Boston.
The two club rooms side-by-side in Newark are a good standard for comparison. They are very close in comfort and quality; NW's is less crowded.
Apr 6, 2009, 5:39 pm
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Regardless of how "old" or "modern" any individual airline club is, WC beats CRC hands-down on system-wide policy.
WC's serve wider food selections than CRCs do, and WCs serve those selections ALL DAY, while CRCs only serve food above and beyond pretzels and biscoff at certain hours.
WC's have self-service beverages where legal.
WC's have open WiFi.
WC's had lower membership pricing.
CRC's do not offer anything that WC's do not offer.
There is no place for the WC's to go but down.
WC's serve wider food selections than CRCs do, and WCs serve those selections ALL DAY, while CRCs only serve food above and beyond pretzels and biscoff at certain hours.
WC's have self-service beverages where legal.
WC's have open WiFi.
WC's had lower membership pricing.
CRC's do not offer anything that WC's do not offer.
There is no place for the WC's to go but down.
Apr 6, 2009, 6:16 pm
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Regardless of how "old" or "modern" any individual airline club is, WC beats CRC hands-down on system-wide policy.
WC's serve wider food selections than CRCs do, and WCs serve those selections ALL DAY, while CRCs only serve food above and beyond pretzels and biscoff at certain hours.
WC's have self-service beverages where legal.
WC's have open WiFi.
WC's had lower membership pricing.
CRC's do not offer anything that WC's do not offer.
There is no place for the WC's to go but down.
WC's serve wider food selections than CRCs do, and WCs serve those selections ALL DAY, while CRCs only serve food above and beyond pretzels and biscoff at certain hours.
WC's have self-service beverages where legal.
WC's have open WiFi.
WC's had lower membership pricing.
CRC's do not offer anything that WC's do not offer.
There is no place for the WC's to go but down.
Apr 6, 2009, 6:19 pm
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Why do so many of you go to both lounges when in EWR? I am curious. Wouldn't be worth my time to bounce between them. I guess if you get to the airport really early with lots of time to spare...
Apr 6, 2009, 8:39 pm
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I think NW has a quality edge partly because they got their two main hubs completely redone prior to going bankrupt. The clubs at Delta's main hubs had been thoroughly lived in when they went Chapter 11. In Atlanta, if you go to the new Crown Room on Concourse C (T-Gates are also nicer), you can get a better apples-to-apples picture with the very nice NW clubs in Detroit. Or check out Boston.
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That point aside though I think that NW has a generally better club situation. DL may be about to remove the T-mobile shackles but that's the most obvious thorn out of the gate. After that the primary differentiators I see are:
1. DL clubs tend to be a LOT more crowded - I've never been in NW club where you couldn't find a seat, its happened at least four times I can think of in both ATL and SAN in the last year to me. From what I gather the CRC got out of control when they gave it away to Plats and they've never quite re-balanced.
2. DL's snack selection - typically pretzels and those odd sugar bombs - just doesn't measure up to the typical NW spread of cookies, pretzels, carrots, etc. You can make a quick meal with some actual protein at a NW club - not happening at DL CRC.
Apr 6, 2009, 9:19 pm
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The lounges are across each other at EWR and the WC has free internet while the CRC doesn't. But for my DL ticketing needs and a somewhat quieter place to get things done, the CRC got used on the same trips too.
Apr 6, 2009, 11:18 pm
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I like the CRC for the great view of the Manhattan skyline and the enhanced liquor selection. The WC is tops for effortless wireless, better snacks, and flight announcements when flying NW. Really enjoyed HNL once upon a time when there were three clubs to hop to in a small area. Hoping DL will revitalize the WC or better yet move to the old CRC digs off the courtyard area. ^
Apr 10, 2009, 12:15 am
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The DL Crown Room didn't give me a hassle with an NW boarding pass + AMEX Platinum just now.
Nice showers, decent self-serve booze (Remy Martin and so on), decent continental breakfast, pretty good lounge. WiFi is pay, though (TMobile). Hopefully they will fix that.
Nice showers, decent self-serve booze (Remy Martin and so on), decent continental breakfast, pretty good lounge. WiFi is pay, though (TMobile). Hopefully they will fix that.
Apr 10, 2009, 9:40 am
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The DL Crown Room didn't give me a hassle with an NW boarding pass + AMEX Platinum just now.
Nice showers, decent self-serve booze (Remy Martin and so on), decent continental breakfast, pretty good lounge. WiFi is pay, though (TMobile). Hopefully they will fix that.
Nice showers, decent self-serve booze (Remy Martin and so on), decent continental breakfast, pretty good lounge. WiFi is pay, though (TMobile). Hopefully they will fix that.
Apr 10, 2009, 10:04 am
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As as part of this transition into "SkyClubs", hopefully this will be standard across all (or at least most all) of the CRCs.