NW Routing diminishing for DL routing already.
Dec 27, 2008, 11:41 am
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NW Routing diminishing for DL routing already.
Looking on nwa.com for my usual MKE>TPA trip the middle of January and find that all but one routing is with DL through ATL or CVG. One flight on NW is offered. I usually fly through MEM because it is faster. The DL flights are more frequent, but involve CRJ flights and in the case with the connection in CVG is all CRJ. That is not what I call a nice way to go.
It appears that ATL will be a lot busier with NW traffic out of MKE. And, if that is so, they will need to upgrade the equipment. Those RJs usually go out full now with just DL customers.
It appears that ATL will be a lot busier with NW traffic out of MKE. And, if that is so, they will need to upgrade the equipment. Those RJs usually go out full now with just DL customers.
Dec 27, 2008, 12:00 pm
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I noticed the same thing, I usually fly MKE-GSO and with a connection in DTWflying on NW metal, now most of the routes that come up are MKE-ATL-GSO on DL. There still are some NW choices, but it is quickly drying up in Milwaukee.
Dec 27, 2008, 12:03 pm
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And the NW prices are higher too.
Dec 27, 2008, 12:05 pm
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It is very frustrating but the NW routings can be found, you almost have to force the system into doing search by schedule and doing multi-city just to get the exact flights you need.
DL - fix the booking engine to give us options over DTW & MSP !!!!
Often I'll get more routings over ATL and CVG than nonstops!
DL - fix the booking engine to give us options over DTW & MSP !!!!
Often I'll get more routings over ATL and CVG than nonstops!
Dec 27, 2008, 12:10 pm
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I think part of the issue is that NW planes are being pulled for a new paint job/interiors. More routes are going to the affiliates/ smaller planes. DL wants NW's planes painted over the next 18 months. I also understand that DL has stopped painting it's own planes to accomplish this.
Dec 27, 2008, 12:39 pm
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I think part of the issue is that NW planes are being pulled for a new paint job/interiors. More routes are going to the affiliates/ smaller planes. DL wants NW's planes painted over the next 18 months. I also understand that DL has stopped painting it's own planes to accomplish this.
Dec 27, 2008, 12:40 pm
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Dec 27, 2008, 12:57 pm
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Ive always found the NW booking engine to be far more flexible than DL since DL imposes journey control. NW even allows three or four connections while DL would hardly allow this unless absolutely necessary. I understood tha DL was adopting NW's technology. Will this mean that journey control will stick around and that the inflexibility of DL's res systems will become more prevalent?
Dec 27, 2008, 1:18 pm
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Wouldn't it be interesting if once again the government got in the business of breaking up companies to encourage competition in the marketplace? Yes, but as it is now, this is the kind of stuff we can expect as more businesses are allowed to grow through acquisition such as to make them "too big to be allowed to fail" by the government.
Dec 27, 2008, 1:24 pm
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This is a minor problem, just as said in a previous post, you can book it by searching multi-city.
The nw booking engine is already far far better than DL's. You can book a lot of creative and interesting routings by playing with it. DL.com, on the other hand, almost can't do anything special.
The nw booking engine is already far far better than DL's. You can book a lot of creative and interesting routings by playing with it. DL.com, on the other hand, almost can't do anything special.
Dec 27, 2008, 1:43 pm
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Ive always found the NW booking engine to be far more flexible than DL since DL imposes journey control. NW even allows three or four connections while DL would hardly allow this unless absolutely necessary. I understood tha DL was adopting NW's technology. Will this mean that journey control will stick around and that the inflexibility of DL's res systems will become more prevalent?
Wouldn't it be interesting if once again the government got in the business of breaking up companies to encourage competition in the marketplace? Yes, but as it is now, this is the kind of stuff we can expect as more businesses are allowed to grow through acquisition such as to make them "too big to be allowed to fail" by the government.
Dec 27, 2008, 1:45 pm
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I've noticed the same thing in CLT as well. NW.COM is spitting out a majority of DL only metal routing structures, and it takes a good bit of tinkering to get NW only metal. As an aside, Mrs. Gtitan, and NW SE, just had her first solo all DL metal series of flights and was not impressed with ATL or the CRCs and said that she found the NW staff and DTW preferable. These are interesting times indeed.
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Dec 27, 2008, 2:24 pm
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An absolute monopoly hold isn't required for the government to get involved.
False.
They will be out with the begging bowls again too.
Originally Posted by indufan
It isn't even close to anything that the government has ever broke up.
Originally Posted by indufan
If this merger hadn't happened, a major airline would have failed and sooner than later. A major may still fail and don't look for a government bailout. While I agree that air travel is a critical component of the economy, the average American would not.
Dec 27, 2008, 2:27 pm
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I think part of the issue is that NW planes are being pulled for a new paint job/interiors. More routes are going to the affiliates/ smaller planes. DL wants NW's planes painted over the next 18 months. I also understand that DL has stopped painting it's own planes to accomplish this.
Perhaps, but neither Delta nor Northwest would have been the airline to have failed. Delta and Northwest were arguably the two strongest airlines going into this merger and several others would have failed first, regardless of the merger.
Dec 27, 2008, 2:27 pm
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Care to give me an example?
You are probably right. But they will get rejected.