DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
 

Can someone provide an example of a double open jaws trip.

RC

NYC - SFO
returning LAX - BOS

I have booked MQT-FCA with a return of MSO-GRR. Couldn't use WP miles for this without it pricing it as two separate trips, and so purchased it for not much more than a standard RT.

Is a double open jaw ticket "legal" according to nwa's rules.

I thought that only a single open jaw and/or a circle trip were legal.

RC

NWA: (1)MKE/PHX; (4)SFO/MKE
AS: (2)PHX/SEA; (3)SEA/SFO

Above = 2 tickets, with NWA open jaw between PHX/SFO & AS open jaw between SFO/PHX.

What you just described is know as "End to End" ticketing.

It's actually twoseparate tickets that are used to create a "Double Open Jaw" trip.

My question was if a pax could buy a single ticket as a double open jaw trip.

I've never done it (single ticket - double open jaw) but it wouldn't be a bad idea if it is within the airline's rules.

RC

I book such itineraries every week ex CLE-DTW-LAX-MEM or BOS-MSP-MSN-DTW etc if that's what you mean. I never thought of it as double open jaw though, they have been booked as one-way flights but the system would probably condider them returns with open jaw. From Europe I usually have one only one openjaw.

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It's legal if the fare rules says it's legal. Of course, NW might check it out anyway as one of those 'suspicious' itineraries. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

BTW, most lower price excursion class Y class tix are not circle trip material. What I mean is just because a fare LAX-LGA permits connections in MSP/MEM/DTW/IAH doesn't mean that if you manage to go through all of them that it's automatically a circle trip, but rather a simple return ticket with allowed transit points. A circle trip is defined as a trip with more than one destination, such as LAX-MEM 01Dec, MEM-MSP 04Dec, MSP-LGA 07Dec and LGA-LAX 10Dec. This is why the four hour rule sometimes comes into play on MR as the airline considers anything longer to be an intentional break of the journey and so recalculates the fare as a result.

Of course as we all know with airlines, there are no hard & fast, black & white rules that apply in all situations. You may find seat sale K class fares that can be combined and will create a circle trip itinerary for a reasonable cost. More often than not circle trips get bumped up to more flexible, generally higher price fare basis.

Hope that explanation helps. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Double open jaws are generally not "legal" within the rules of most round-trip type fares that otherwise may permit simple open jaw itineraries.

However, on one-way fares you can double-, triple-, and even quadruple-open-jaw to your heart's content, if such fares are available.

One way discount fares aren't in plentiful supply these days, are they?

Wrong. One-way fares do not permit any open jaws as they are, as the term suggests, one-way between point A and point B. You may combine 2 one-way fares and get a double open jaw by doing point A to point B and back from point C to point D but you can't have an open jaw itinerary unless you have a return or 2 one-way fares.