Opinion(s) of Pinnacle CRJ Seat Pitch/Comfort
Jun 20, 2003, 11:02 pm
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Opinion(s) of Pinnacle CRJ Seat Pitch/Comfort
I recently flew CMH/MEM and MEM/OKC returning the next day OKC/MEM and MEM/CMH.
(3) of the 4 flights were Pinnacle CRJ's and (1) flight was a Mesaba RJ85.
I found the Pinnacle CRJ's to be too tightly pitched and the seats seemed narrower than any of the NWA mainline a/c.
The overhead luggage bins are only 8" high which precluded stowing a travelpro rollerbag (which I gate checked 3 times)
Preparing for a meeting I tried to work on my powerpoint presentation. It was not possible to open my laptop far enough to see the screen.
Also the aisles were too narrow for 2 of the 3 Pinnacle FA's to navigate without rubbing into pax in every aisle.
Has anyone had similiar experiences on this a/c?
RC
[This message has been edited by Radiocycle (edited 06-20-2003).]
(3) of the 4 flights were Pinnacle CRJ's and (1) flight was a Mesaba RJ85.
I found the Pinnacle CRJ's to be too tightly pitched and the seats seemed narrower than any of the NWA mainline a/c.
The overhead luggage bins are only 8" high which precluded stowing a travelpro rollerbag (which I gate checked 3 times)
Preparing for a meeting I tried to work on my powerpoint presentation. It was not possible to open my laptop far enough to see the screen.
Also the aisles were too narrow for 2 of the 3 Pinnacle FA's to navigate without rubbing into pax in every aisle.
Has anyone had similiar experiences on this a/c?
RC
[This message has been edited by Radiocycle (edited 06-20-2003).]
Jun 20, 2003, 11:17 pm
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Those of us who have abandoned Delta Connection's torture jets for NW/Mesaba's ARJs are only TOO FAMILIAR with the problems you ask about.
CRJs are better than Jetstreams but WORSE than almost anything else. They will survive for a few more years, but....
If you can not avoid that airplane, pray that the flight is under one hour. That is how it is tolerable.
CRJs are better than Jetstreams but WORSE than almost anything else. They will survive for a few more years, but....
If you can not avoid that airplane, pray that the flight is under one hour. That is how it is tolerable.
Jun 21, 2003, 12:54 am
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Flew a CRJ on my last trip. First time I've got naesous on a flight in a LONNNNG time. And the flight slightly north of an hour in length. Egh.
Jun 21, 2003, 1:05 am
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best seat in the house (saying alot for such a crappy airplane) is first row, E/F side...u have that big bin to rest your feet on.
I hate this plane...narrow, cramped and you have to almost bend over to look out the window
With all the alternative wider RJs out there, it's a shame Pinnacle (or anyone) still flies this torture-chamber. I say ship all these crap-boxes back to Bombardier and head to Brazil or Europe to find some wider, more comfortable jets with similar operating expenses. USAirways did.
I hate this plane...narrow, cramped and you have to almost bend over to look out the window
With all the alternative wider RJs out there, it's a shame Pinnacle (or anyone) still flies this torture-chamber. I say ship all these crap-boxes back to Bombardier and head to Brazil or Europe to find some wider, more comfortable jets with similar operating expenses. USAirways did.
Jun 21, 2003, 4:28 am
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I totally agree with the others posting here. After a TUL/MSP flight last week I will avoid this plane at all costs. Having a window seat, my biggest problem was the curvature of the fuselage invading "my space", it seems I had to have my head tilted the whole flight. I also can't figure out what they had in mind when they decided to place the window below neck height.
I really hope there are alternate uses for this beast, such as with FedEx or UPS, and we can get the new Embrear's that US Airways and Jet Blue are ordering.
I really hope there are alternate uses for this beast, such as with FedEx or UPS, and we can get the new Embrear's that US Airways and Jet Blue are ordering.
Jun 21, 2003, 10:06 am
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Ditto
The window below neck level is the killer. I can handle the rest of the inconvienences on a CRJ, after all, it is only around 2 hrs max. But I like to look out the window, and I hate the CRJ's for the pain involved in that.
The window below neck level is the killer. I can handle the rest of the inconvienences on a CRJ, after all, it is only around 2 hrs max. But I like to look out the window, and I hate the CRJ's for the pain involved in that.
Jun 21, 2003, 10:21 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by shedwannabe:
The window below neck level is the killer.</font>
The window below neck level is the killer.</font>
Jun 21, 2003, 11:11 am
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The lower floor is only on the 70 and 90 seat CRJs.
The ERJ is more curved less room at window seats, also a lot louder cabin.
Of the 50 and 44 seat jets being made today the CRJ is a better product.
The ERJ is more curved less room at window seats, also a lot louder cabin.
Of the 50 and 44 seat jets being made today the CRJ is a better product.
Jun 21, 2003, 11:55 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by BabyBlue:
The ERJ is more curved less room at window seats, also a lot louder cabin.</font>
The ERJ is more curved less room at window seats, also a lot louder cabin.</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Of the 50 and 44 seat jets being made today the CRJ is a better product.</font>
Jun 21, 2003, 2:35 pm
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http://www.embraer.com/english/conte...osssection.gif
CRJ - ERJ
Baggage compartment volume 473 ft 325ft³
Range full pax 2,005 nm 1,590 nm
Service ceiling 41,000 ft 37,000 ft
Take off field length 6,290 ft 7,448 ft
Maximum cruise Mach 0.81 Mach .78
[This message has been edited by BabyBlue (edited 06-21-2003).]
CRJ - ERJ
Baggage compartment volume 473 ft 325ft³
Range full pax 2,005 nm 1,590 nm
Service ceiling 41,000 ft 37,000 ft
Take off field length 6,290 ft 7,448 ft
Maximum cruise Mach 0.81 Mach .78
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Jun 21, 2003, 3:05 pm
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What is the pitch between seats on the 44 seater and the 50 seater CRJ's?
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Jun 21, 2003, 3:12 pm
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BabyBlue - Do you think that responding to posts about passenger comfort with airplane capacity and performance statistics makes any sense at all? The judgements that you are trying to refute with your nonsense have come from butt in the seat experience and that experience places the (merely) miserable ERJ well above the (completely) detestable CRJ in providing the barest minimum of comfort for those of us who are now forced to sit in them with regularity.
Jun 21, 2003, 3:21 pm
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I'll do anything to try and avoid CJ equipment. NWA was using CJ's on the MSP-JAX NS route last year which I flew. Talk about an long, uncomfortable ride!! Better than Turbo's though.
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Jun 21, 2003, 7:48 pm
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Seat pitch is the same in the 44 and 50 seaters 31".
The question was which is a better product. The only way to be non opinionated is to put the facts out. The capability of an aircraft is what the buyer uses to determine its worth.
As for your comment on having being forced to ride on CRJ’s I must question that. Most of the longer routes that you say are the most unbearable are new service that did not exist prior to being flown with a CRJ. Second you will find most of the routs that have CRJs are upgraded from the Saab flights. The largest impact of CRJs replacing ARJs has occurred in MEM where most of the flights average an hour in length.
MSP - ALB = new service
MSP - MDT = new service
MSP - JAX = new service, now once a day a 319
MSP - TUL= new service
MSP - ORF= new service
MSP - PWM= new service
MSP - PVD= new service, will be once a day 319
MSP - TUL = new service
MSP – ICT = new service
MSP – RIC = new service
MSP – TYS = new service
DTW – LIT= new service
DTW – PNS = new service
DTW – BGR = new service
[This message has been edited by BabyBlue (edited 06-21-2003).]
The question was which is a better product. The only way to be non opinionated is to put the facts out. The capability of an aircraft is what the buyer uses to determine its worth.
As for your comment on having being forced to ride on CRJ’s I must question that. Most of the longer routes that you say are the most unbearable are new service that did not exist prior to being flown with a CRJ. Second you will find most of the routs that have CRJs are upgraded from the Saab flights. The largest impact of CRJs replacing ARJs has occurred in MEM where most of the flights average an hour in length.
MSP - ALB = new service
MSP - MDT = new service
MSP - JAX = new service, now once a day a 319
MSP - TUL= new service
MSP - ORF= new service
MSP - PWM= new service
MSP - PVD= new service, will be once a day 319
MSP - TUL = new service
MSP – ICT = new service
MSP – RIC = new service
MSP – TYS = new service
DTW – LIT= new service
DTW – PNS = new service
DTW – BGR = new service
[This message has been edited by BabyBlue (edited 06-21-2003).]
Apr 10, 2007, 9:51 pm
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Will the new CRJ's have the same old CRJ seat in Y?
Will the new CRJ's have the same old CRJ seat in Y?
RC
RC