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pragakhan Nov 14, 2007 12:49 pm

Seriously? He has 1 EQM to go and he HAS book a trip to make it? OP can't call NWA and get it settled?

49,999 that is just crazy! lol

CaptainMiles Nov 14, 2007 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by pragakhan (Post 8729903)
Seriously? He has 1 EQM to go and he HAS book a trip to make it? OP can't call NWA and get it settled?

49,999 that is just crazy! lol

I am GE already, qualified last year. And will requalify again for '08 after my flights in December. What would I gain by "getting it settled" with NW?

ed1 Nov 14, 2007 4:11 pm


Originally Posted by ifette (Post 8728886)
DTW-NGO was a NW flight.

I was talking about the wrong mileage on the nwa.com calculator. It was significant in this case whereas normally the Great Circle Mapper, MileCalc, and the nwa.com mileage calculator are off from each other by no more than one mile.

The DL or NW part was in reference to your:

Route: LGW-ATL on DL.

Mileage calculator says 4245, however it posted as:

02JUL2006 DL 0011 DL 0011 L/L LGW - ATL 4,229 4,229

boazs Nov 21, 2007 5:40 pm


Originally Posted by CaptainMiles (Post 8725925)
Does anyone know why the reservation system can't report actual mileage?

The formula used by the reservation system is simple. The great circle distance calculations are complex.
In fact, a few months after I launched MileCalc.com, I got an email from a IT person working for one of the largest FFPs (not NW), asking for the code I developed since they wanted to get the mileage exactly right!

CaptainMiles Nov 21, 2007 5:57 pm


Originally Posted by boazs (Post 8771026)
The formula used by the reservation system is simple. The great circle distance calculations are complex.
In fact, a few months after I launched MileCalc.com, I got an email from a IT person working for one of the largest FFPs (not NW), asking for the code I developed since they wanted to get the mileage exactly right!

And the answer is???

I don't think there is ONE formula that is exactly right. Every formula is an approximation, each based on a different model of the Earth (sphere, various models of a geoid, etc.) and different mathematical simplifications. All are pretty close to each other though. I don't much care which formula an airline uses, and long as they use if consistently. NWA apparently uses several different formulas, inconsistently, and that causes confusion.

CaveatEmpty Nov 21, 2007 6:31 pm

Got yer 'formula' right here:

: LOOKUP(miletable,DTW,MEM)

:rolleyes:? Maybe a suggestion for TTU ??

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Yaatri Nov 22, 2007 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by CaptainMiles (Post 8725925)
You got it, I'm at 49999 EQMs, 1 teeny mile short of requalifying for GE. I am not worried about requalifying because I still have one more trip this year, but I was very convinced I would come in above 50000 after this last trip. However, two segments came in below the "approximate miles" shown in my reservation.

DTW-MEM shows in reservation as approximately 621 miles, but posted as 610. LAX-DTW is 1982 in the reservation, posted at 1979. I see that the miles posted as per the mileage calculator. But I had neglected to check the mileage calculator, instead trusting the "approximate miles" displayed in the reservations system. If this had been my last trip of the year I would have gotten burned.

Does anyone know why the reservation system can't report actual mileage?

I don't know what the exact number of miles is on these gtwo routes, MEM-DTW and DTW-LAX, the numbers you have indicated, 610 and 1979 is what I have always received on those routes. In m experience there is only one definitive source of data on on mles. And that is the NW timetable (pdf). When EQMs is an impotrtant issue,, I check with the PDF time table.

Yaatri Nov 22, 2007 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by SkyBuck (Post 8726545)
I always thought they just read the odometer on the plane.

It's one thing for the mileage on a codeshare flight to be off a bit. But for NW metal flights booked on nwa.com, there's no excuse for the discrepancy.

I hope you were joking.

Yaatri Nov 22, 2007 2:03 pm


Originally Posted by ed1 (Post 8726908)
They must be using the nwa.com reservations figure because the nwa.com mileage calculator is dead-on with the posted figure of 931.

Nwa.com calculator is not always right. I can't recall the route, but I have come across situations whee nwa.com calculator is at odds with what I had alread received.

CaptainMiles Nov 22, 2007 7:33 pm


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 8774824)
In m experience there is only one definitive source of data on on mles. And that is the NW timetable (pdf). When EQMs is an impotrtant issue,, I check with the PDF time table.

The legend of the pdf timetable states that the miles shown there are approximate. Seeing that neither the online reservations nor the online calculator produce reliable results, and even the pdf timetable claims to only show approximate mileage, I don't see how one can prevent being stuck with 49,999 EQMs. All because NWA uses a variety of different and inconsistent mileage calculation methods.

SchmutzigMSP Nov 22, 2007 9:27 pm


Originally Posted by CaptainMiles (Post 8775811)
Seeing that neither the online reservations nor the online calculator produce reliable results, and even the pdf timetable claims to only show approximate mileage, I don't see how one can prevent being stuck with 49,999 EQMs.

I do: don't budget making Gold Elite with exactly 50,000 miles. ;)

SkyBuck Nov 22, 2007 10:26 pm


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 8774828)
I hope you were joking.

Only the part about the odometer. :D


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