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humanoid94 Sep 24, 2007 8:00 am

I'll be darned, KLM almost lost a bird to a volcano. Learn something new everyday.



During a 1989—90 series of eruptions, Redoubt Volcano, Alaska, spewed enormous clouds of ash. Ash blown from this volcano on December 15, 1989, nearly caused a 747 jetliner (KLM Flight 867) carrying 231 passengers to crash. Partly in response to this near-fatal incident, the U.S. Geological Survey organized the first International Symposium on Volcanic Ash and Aviation Safety. This 1991 conference in Seattle, Washington, focused attention on ways to reduce the risk volcanic ash poses to the world's rapidly increasing air traffic. Photograph is courtesy of Joyce M. Warren.


erik123 Sep 24, 2007 11:00 am

IIRC - BA had all engines stall (twice) and lost power completely from LHR to Narita a decade or so back because of an erupotion in Indonesia. Luckily after decending below the volcanic ash (which was at high altitude) the pilot managed to restart the engines.

YVR Cockroach Sep 24, 2007 11:12 am


Originally Posted by erik123 (Post 8454031)
IIRC - BA had all engines stall (twice) and lost power completely from LHR to Narita a decade or so back because of an erupotion in Indonesia. Luckily after decending below the volcanic ash (which was at high altitude) the pilot managed to restart the engines.

That was enroute to Australia IIRC. Flew into an ash cloud off Indonesia (where the volcano was located as you indicated) - not anywhere near Japan.

RobOnLI Sep 24, 2007 11:58 am


Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach (Post 8454100)
That was enroute to Australia IIRC. Flew into an ash cloud off Indonesia (where the volcano was located as you indicated) - not anywhere near Japan.

That's correct. It was a flight en route to Australia.

In fact, it was just featured on "Air Emergency" if any of you watch that show - although most of the graphics they use on that show are really cheesy.

-RM

johan rebel Sep 24, 2007 1:38 pm


Originally Posted by humanoid94 (Post 8453022)
KLM almost lost a bird to a volcano.

All four engines flamed out; almost all electric power failed; the cockpit windshield were sandblasted, depriving the pilots of forward vision; and the aircraft lost over 10,000 feet in altitude before the pilots got two engines running again. Repairing the aircraft cost $80 million, in 1989 dollars. Ever since, KL have had a very strict volcanic ash policy, causing them to cancel or reroute flights even though other airlines happily keep flying.

Johan


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