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ed1 Jul 8, 2007 9:15 am


Originally Posted by NWAFA (Post 8010122)
You mean you guys don't miss the old terminal? Coming in at the farthest point of C and having to connect out of F or G? ;)

I do admit, NW got it right when they designed the new terminal. Even when the airport is packed, it doesn't feel cramped and there is always a place to sit down.

I do agree with whoever said about MEM, temp control! That has been a loooong problem at that airport. That's the only thing that I can think of that's a negative. Especially during the summer. But the BBQ does make up for it. :)

I especially loved the jog through from the far end of C with a twenty minute connection at the far end of F (or even G - but I don't think that was actually as far) through security at every concourse, no moving walkways, gate traffic overflowing into the already too narrow walkway, less food choices (and more expensive), the whole dingy atmosphere (except for the WCs). Fortunately I didn't have to deal with the baggage area too often. They went from everything wrong to everything right with the new terminal.

MEM used to be miles ahead of DTW back then even with the tiny overcrowded WC.

ed1 Jul 8, 2007 9:47 am


Originally Posted by DavidDTW (Post 8010415)
And didn't that always seem to be the case when transferrng? Now the distance from A1 to A72 probably isn't any less, but at least we have the tram!!

With just the moving walkways it's still much better, I've had to do that when one of the trams got stuck and they had them shut down for a while.


Originally Posted by DTWflyer (Post 8013061)
Ah yes, I have fond memories of the 'old Davey terminal. For those of you who don't remember the fun times there let me share some old stories of that place. This may bring back some other fun memories for the rest of you too.

A typical day at DTW, circa 1999-2000. <insert flashback / daydream music>
Setting: Warm, hot, humid, sunny July day, temperatures in the low 90's with about 85% humidity.
-Land on 21L on a good ole' DC-9 (probably the same one I will be on this afternoon)
-Taxi for a 15 minutes since we are at the far end of the airport and have to hold for about 10 minutes to cross 3C/21C since DTW only has 3 parallel runways at this time. (Note the runways now have been renumbered)
-Cross the runway, notice we are no longer taxing toward the terminal, and out the window you see no less than 5-6 aircraft parked on a taxiway
-Aircraft comes to a stop, you have now reached the "penalty box"
-Sit waiting for a gate for about 20 minutes, no a/c
-Finally arrive at gate C-26, the farthest gate on the addition-on-top-of addition hack job of the old concourse C.
-Since this is pre-FT era, and you are a newbie, no elite status you are in row 19, thus 10-15 minutes later, finally get off the aircraft,
-Once in concourse C which is beyond overcrowed as there 3 DC-10 flights departing to MCO, PHX, & LAS at adjacent gates. No less than about 67 wheelchair passengers waiting for those flights, no less than 114 kids in stollers, mostly going to MCO.
-Start the sprint, come to an abrupt stop in from of the flight monitors, looking for the status of your Saab flight to TVC. Since its Saab, you know that you are headed out to Mesabaland in Concourse G, aka the golfcourse. About a dozen blue screen monitors are flickering in and out, mostly covered in white snow. Just your luck, the monitor where your city should be is out. Great, sprint further down to the next bank of monitors - your flight is scheduled to depart in 25 minutes, you hope that its delayed, because otherwise you will not make the bus. It is still showing ontime.
-Knowing your destination, you break into an all-out OJ-style airport run, flying through concourse C. Good think you ran the mile in high school track.
-Already getting close to half mile, you reach the end of C, round the bend, almost taking out some Joe Tourists and their 37-member sending off party who have just come through the checkpoint (remember when non-ticketed passengers were allowed in the concourse)
-Dodge about 15 beeping carts running through the concourse
-Moving sidewalks are worthless-too narrow & crowded, keep on running, note the terminal is about 105 degrees and smells like mildew. The T-storm from the night before dumped a ton of rain and leaked through the roof. You accidently run into one of the buckets sitting in the middle of the hallway full of water.
-Now is the tricky part as you approach the epicenter of the universe-the main security checkpoint. First you get the nasty stentch of Cinnabon, they you encounter the 300 person line snaked out of the Burger King. (Just about the only food in the terminal mind you)
-Watch out, about 300 people huddled around the half-broken flight monitors inside security. You only take about about 4 people with your roller-board.
-Roadblock! Its mid-afternoon and you are approaching the end of F. You have been running hard for 10 minutes at this point, drenched in sweat. There are 4 DC-10's to Europe and 3 747's to Asia departing out of F. No less than 1500 people in a space designed for about 300. The large tour groups have gridlocked the walkway at this point, but you still manage to plow through
-The homestretch, you reach the escalor down to G, hoping that your bus hasn't left.
-Success! Fortunetely they are short on drivers, so your bus is still there running behind. You are the last passenger to jam on. You are really hot & sweaty at this point.
-Thud! Ooops, your bus driver cut a corner too short and the bus clipped a bag cart and the guy next to you falls into you.
-Finally at the aircraft, you made it. You survived, just another day in DTW.

<end flashback>

The '80's were even worse, if you can believe that. At least by the '90s or so they had some moving walkways and the security wasn't at every concourse. Even the hoards at the main security check-point weren't that bad, compared to the every concourse check-points. I had one flight where I came in at the far end of C checked the monitors went to my gate in F, got there and they had changed it to C which meant going through security twice, fortunately I had well over an hour that time.

I forgot about the bad monitors (they did seem to have more than their fair share of them), it's been a while.

I thought I remembered that escalator to G, but I wasn't quite sure. Seems to me they had a WC on the right just before the escalator down to G (before they built the new F WC).

Never took the bus to Int. term., sounds like fun.

ed1 Jul 8, 2007 9:57 am


Originally Posted by SpinzCity (Post 8017014)

I remember those planes, but I think they had Republic on them when I flew them DTW/TOL. What was that plane?

RichMSN Jul 9, 2007 3:24 am


Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 8018629)
Stayed over at the Westin last night. Flew into DTW, went to the Tigers/Red Sox game (my 30th and final current Major League ballpark), and then came back.

Everything LOOKS great at DTW. But today when I tried checking in my bags (I'm flying DTW-BOS-AMS-BRS today and tomorrow morning) there was one agent working at the main check-in and one agent working at the elite/WBC check-in. Even with all the bloody kiosks, I had to stand and wait. And wait. And did I mention there were two agents, but one closed down and went on break even with people queued up?

As I was waiting...and waiting...at the WBC check-in, I noticed that there were THREE agents working the Unaccompanied Minors check-in station. Unbelievable.

The Westin was cool, the ballpark fabulous, the NW experience in DTW.....blah.

At the WC in BOS now until we board. Nice club, virtually empty.

One should never complain too much about trivial things.

I left BOS and had an uneventful flight to AMS. Went to AMS club 41 for a shower. Too much of a queue and too little time, so I went down to catch my flight to BRS.

I had changed my seat in DTW to an aisle near the front and the hag at the gate (KLM motto: That is not possible) looked at my pass, looked at her computer, and said "you are in 11E....next". So I ended up in a middle seat near the back while seats in the front remained empty. Nice treatment of a ST Elite Plus member.

I got to BRS and they were out of automatic drive cars (which I reserved), so I got me a Skoda Econobox. Never shifted with my left hand before and it's not too bad.

Did I mention I still don't have my checked bag? This afternoon I'll have to go out and buy some business clothes to get through my meetings until my bag gets back from Upper Mongolia.

cptlflyer Jul 12, 2007 11:01 am


Originally Posted by PVGMSP (Post 8013280)
I totally agree! I wish the rest of the Detroit can be as shiny and spotless as NW's Terminal at DTW! :)

One thing I'd like to suggest to NW or Wayne County Airport Authority is to add some artworks in this terminal, which is very futuristic but "sterile" right now...maybe some concept car mockups :D

Just go to YVR... it has a ton of interesting artworks with a Pacific Northwest theme.

NW is responsible for the operation of the McNamara Terminal at DTW... so, it's up to them to do the decorating. I think we all know NWA isn't the type of company to blow cash on artwork. The only reason they sprung for those HUGE Daktronics monitors was the chance to make money selling ads :p

InsideDTW Jul 12, 2007 11:20 am

DTW North Terminal Videos Released
 
For an 'inside look' at DTW's new North Terminal, and to watch a video of the construction progress, visit http://www.metroairport.com/project/Videos.asp.

jcherney Jul 12, 2007 12:02 pm


Originally Posted by cptlflyer (Post 8045484)
NW is responsible for the operation of the McNamara Terminal at DTW... so, it's up to them to do the decorating. I think we all know NWA isn't the type of company to blow cash on artwork. The only reason they sprung for those HUGE Daktronics monitors was the chance to make money selling ads :p

True, but that doesn't explain the dancing water sculpture in the middle of the terminal.

kcnwa Jul 12, 2007 12:43 pm


Originally Posted by jcherney (Post 8045874)
True, but that doesn't explain the dancing water sculpture in the middle of the terminal.

Pennies, and the occasional nickel and dime :)

jcherney Jul 12, 2007 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by kcnwa (Post 8046139)
Pennies, and the occasional nickel and dime :)

LOL!:D

SpinzCity Jul 12, 2007 1:43 pm

>>>>>>>I remember those planes, but I think they had Republic on them when I flew them DTW/TOL. What was that plane?

I think they were Convairs (240's or 440's) and Republic was an amalgamation of North Central Airlines and another airline with a compass direction in the name but no duck: Southern. Northwest, another compass direction, bought Republic in 1986 and probably served the ducks in F class.

mdb Jul 12, 2007 1:50 pm


Originally Posted by mikey1003 (Post 8018569)
The only thing good about the old terminal was the Host Marriott restaurant. I actually scheduled trips through DTW at dinner time with enough connection time to eat dinner.

Toward the end, the food and service deteriorated.

The DEMA restaurant at the Westin is quite nice -- you should try it -- cool bar and a great asian courtyard and reflecting pool too.

cptlflyer Jul 12, 2007 1:50 pm


Originally Posted by jcherney (Post 8045874)
True, but that doesn't explain the dancing water sculpture in the middle of the terminal.

Well...the water feature was part of the original design... which, as is evident from the lavishness of the entire place, was done in the mid-90's when times were very different for NWA! By the time interior decorating was an issue, airlines were already tanking... and then came 9/11...


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