New aircraft, which ones and when?
May 15, 2007, 1:23 pm
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The info regarding 13 A333 deliveries does not seem right. The http://ir.nwa.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=111021&p=irol-fleet says 21 A333s and 11 A332s. There are 16 A333s in the system already. And I think all A332s have been delivered (or maybe one still left to be delivered?). That would leave 5x A333 deliveries. That's not that much extra lift considering all B742s are being retired.
May 15, 2007, 1:27 pm
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Maybe this is a stupid question, but just curious why the older deliveries have regs ending in US (and some NB) and then some in the late 90s have NW??? All the 319s are NB, while the a320s follow the 757 pattern?
I'm sure some of the DC9 regs would tell where the planes came from before NW, and I remember seeing some different ones in MSP, but those aren't in the list. Just curious since it makes spotting a little more fun!
I'm sure some of the DC9 regs would tell where the planes came from before NW, and I remember seeing some different ones in MSP, but those aren't in the list. Just curious since it makes spotting a little more fun!
May 15, 2007, 1:55 pm
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Maybe this is a stupid question, but just curious why the older deliveries have regs ending in US (and some NB) and then some in the late 90s have NW??? All the 319s are NB, while the a320s follow the 757 pattern?
I'm sure some of the DC9 regs would tell where the planes came from before NW, and I remember seeing some different ones in MSP, but those aren't in the list. Just curious since it makes spotting a little more fun!
I'm sure some of the DC9 regs would tell where the planes came from before NW, and I remember seeing some different ones in MSP, but those aren't in the list. Just curious since it makes spotting a little more fun!
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific...try/n_numbers/
NW has the strangest regs:
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...&sort_option=5
May 15, 2007, 2:11 pm
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http://www.nwa.com/corpinfo/upclose/2000.shtml
Jan. 16 - Northwest announces it will acquire 24 Airbus A330-300 aircraft, 20 Boeing B757-300 aircraft, two B747-400s and six A319s. Deliveries of the A330s will begin in 2003 and continue through 2006 deliveries of the B757s will begin in 2002 and continue through 2004 the A319s and B747s will be delivered in 2002.
So we have 24 A330s accounted for.
And this
http://www.nwa.com/corpinfo/newsc/20...620051550.html
MINNEAPOLIS -- (January 26, 2005) – Northwest Airlines today announced that it has ordered eight additional Airbus A330 wide-body aircraft.
So we have 8 more. This makes it 32 aircraft. And I do not believe there is any other order.
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May 15, 2007, 2:53 pm
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Regarding the A330's, bear in mind that TATL service is a NW/KL thing. It is possible that NW plans to take over more of the TATL routes from KL. Another possibility is some flights ex-AMS (maybe to places like India?).
May 15, 2007, 3:35 pm
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Well with a little digging and reading a recent post by azj I think I've located where the A330's are going...
NRT-HNL and KIX-HNL go to 330's on July 1
NRT-SPN goes to a 330 on Sept 2
NRT-GUM goes to a 330 on Sept 28
This takes care of 4 of the 5 A330's coming.
Now the intersting part comes in where azj can only find 13 744's in the system after late september. accounting for 1 spare, this leaves a pair of birds to fly to ???
If anyone can figure that out, please post...
18 787's will be delivered, which means 9 more MAJOR int'l routes to open, i'm figuring they will start with N/S DTW/MSP to ICN, PEK, PVG ... then anyone's guess, though in the mean time I think my MSP-SYD one-stop should be kicked around Building A as a possibility...
Lots of European expansion on the horizon
[From azj's post]
As for Europe some key dates to remember are:
5/7 - The 2nd DTW-FRA launches using 752s. This is ends 10/26.
6/5 - DTW-DUS starts 5/week and goes daily on 6/17.
6/15 - DTW-BRU daily 752 starts
7/1 - BDL-AMS daily 752 commences
7/1 - DTW-AMS 5th daily flight #36 begins
7/15 - BOS-AMS 2nd daily innauguarates with the 752.
NRT-HNL and KIX-HNL go to 330's on July 1
NRT-SPN goes to a 330 on Sept 2
NRT-GUM goes to a 330 on Sept 28
This takes care of 4 of the 5 A330's coming.
Now the intersting part comes in where azj can only find 13 744's in the system after late september. accounting for 1 spare, this leaves a pair of birds to fly to ???
If anyone can figure that out, please post...
18 787's will be delivered, which means 9 more MAJOR int'l routes to open, i'm figuring they will start with N/S DTW/MSP to ICN, PEK, PVG ... then anyone's guess, though in the mean time I think my MSP-SYD one-stop should be kicked around Building A as a possibility...
Lots of European expansion on the horizon
[From azj's post]
As for Europe some key dates to remember are:
5/7 - The 2nd DTW-FRA launches using 752s. This is ends 10/26.
6/5 - DTW-DUS starts 5/week and goes daily on 6/17.
6/15 - DTW-BRU daily 752 starts
7/1 - BDL-AMS daily 752 commences
7/1 - DTW-AMS 5th daily flight #36 begins
7/15 - BOS-AMS 2nd daily innauguarates with the 752.
May 15, 2007, 3:50 pm
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Cargo conversion could be the fate for that pair of 744s.
May 15, 2007, 3:58 pm
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Resume N/S service to HKG from one of the gateway cities or MSP with the 744s?
May 15, 2007, 6:01 pm
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Perhaps DTW-HKG, or SEA-NRT-TPE with the A332 being used for SEA-LHR or an additional AMS service from the west coast (perhaps PDX)
May 15, 2007, 7:43 pm
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I think with the new partnership with China Airlines, the NRT-TPE service can be re-offered, so that base is covered... MSP/DTW-HKG sounds like an idea...
May 15, 2007, 10:13 pm
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You say it's unlikely, but then allocate the 744 to a DTW-HKG route. Why? MSP-HKG was a long-standing route before they took it away. Now that they're on the up-and-up a bit, it would seem very logical that they would consider reinstating it. We've certainly got the slots at MSP for it; I don't know how DTW is doing, but I assume they're OK for it, too. There are a few things I've seen and heard, though, that makes MSP-HKG sound very plausible.
May 16, 2007, 12:52 pm
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You say it's unlikely, but then allocate the 744 to a DTW-HKG route. Why? MSP-HKG was a long-standing route before they took it away. Now that they're on the up-and-up a bit, it would seem very logical that they would consider reinstating it. We've certainly got the slots at MSP for it; I don't know how DTW is doing, but I assume they're OK for it, too. There are a few things I've seen and heard, though, that makes MSP-HKG sound very plausible.
May 16, 2007, 1:35 pm
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That has mostly been true.
Why not put a 744 on DTW-AMS? I know it is a definate downgrade in service but if they could combine 2 moderate performing flights together...
Why not put a 744 on DTW-AMS? I know it is a definate downgrade in service but if they could combine 2 moderate performing flights together...
May 16, 2007, 8:05 pm
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Because in winter they would be flying 1x A333, 1x B744 and 1x B752 to AMS if that happened. I think 3x A333 and 1x B752 is a better combo. I have to belive that there must be a route in the NW system where B744 would be better used.