NW1531-1+hr delay to install ovens
Mar 15, 2007, 7:51 pm
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NW1531-1+hr delay to install ovens
If you travel enough, you do see it all. After boarding this DC9 in MSP bound for MCI, we sat there for over an hour. Apparently, the ovens had been removed. The pilot wanted them reinstalled because of a weight/balance issue (we were full). I was in 2 A so it wasn't too painfull. The crew was great and came around with an extra round of pre-departure drinks.
The unanswered question is did the plane get there with or without ovens
The unanswered question is did the plane get there with or without ovens
Mar 16, 2007, 7:54 am
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I thought all ovens were removed to save weight (and fuel) a long time ago. 
Not like they are serving hot food on DC-9s any more. For a full flight I would think they would have to REMOVE something, not add more weight. If the had balance issues they could have just rearranged cargo in the holds.
Not like they are serving hot food on DC-9s any more. For a full flight I would think they would have to REMOVE something, not add more weight. If the had balance issues they could have just rearranged cargo in the holds.
Mar 16, 2007, 8:00 am
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Couldn't they have just moved some extra large pax to the jump seats? 
Mar 16, 2007, 9:25 am
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If you travel enough, you do see it all. After boarding this DC9 in MSP bound for MCI, we sat there for over an hour. Apparently, the ovens had been removed. The pilot wanted them reinstalled because of a weight/balance issue (we were full). I was in 2 A so it wasn't too painfull. The crew was great and came around with an extra round of pre-departure drinks.
The unanswered question is did the plane get there with or without ovens
The unanswered question is did the plane get there with or without ovens
Mar 16, 2007, 2:57 pm
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Are they really all gone? I know most are. But last year I did get a hot dinner meal on a MSP-DCA DC9 flight. Although I believe they are all Airbii now on this route.
Mar 16, 2007, 3:05 pm
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I think they left one in front and took out the two big ones on the side, where you now see the gaping cavities. I too have had hot meals on them
Mar 17, 2007, 5:55 am
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Mar 17, 2007, 9:42 am
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This makes no sense. I read somewhere recently that delayed departures cost an airline an average of $70 per minute. It would have been more cost effective to jettison a passenger or two.
Mar 17, 2007, 11:32 am
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Could it have something to do with the CDL (Configuration Deviation List)?
When I still worked for NW, I once took a delay for a missing ashtray on a DC-10 (the ones that were installed outside of the bathrooms). Although smoking was no longer allowed, the ashtrays were still part of the CDL and the missing ashtray had to be addressed. Not sure if this applies here since an earlier post indicates ovens have been removed on DC-9's. Perhaps the CDL hadn't been addressed in that particular logbook. Just a thought.
When I still worked for NW, I once took a delay for a missing ashtray on a DC-10 (the ones that were installed outside of the bathrooms). Although smoking was no longer allowed, the ashtrays were still part of the CDL and the missing ashtray had to be addressed. Not sure if this applies here since an earlier post indicates ovens have been removed on DC-9's. Perhaps the CDL hadn't been addressed in that particular logbook. Just a thought.
Mar 18, 2007, 4:59 am
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It still does not make sense since they were ADDING weight. And can the weight of a couple ovens really make a difference to the weight and balance of a full DC9?
Mar 18, 2007, 11:37 am
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It's the economics of this particular scenario that make no sense.
Mar 18, 2007, 6:45 pm
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