MSP Winter Storm Warning: Part Deux
Feb 27, 2007, 4:31 pm
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MSP Winter Storm Warning: Part Deux
Well, it's only been a few days since the last "Big One" and they're already forecasting another "Big One" set to start sometime later Tomorrow (Wednesday afternoon/evening) into Friday. NWS has issued a Winter Storm Warning and is currently forecasting 8"-14", potentially heavier amounts locally. NWA has already issued a pre-emptive weather waiver:
http://www.nwa.com/features/weather.shtml
Update #1: New weather waiver posted 2/27 @ 6pm CST (changes: added text about unaccompanied minors and pets in the cargo holds)
Winter Weather Waiver, Rebook on nwa.com
Updated February 27, 2007 - 2:30 p.m. CST
Due to winter weather in the U.S. upper Midwest, Northwest Airlines has issued a weather waiver for passengers with confirmed tickets for travel February 27 through March 2, 2007 to, from or through the state of Minnesota and the cities of Eau Claire, LaCrosse, and Sioux Falls.
All affected passengers may reschedule their travel to earlier or later flights within the same cabin of service through March 4, 2007, without penalty or administrative change fees subject to availability.
Passengers wishing to reschedule their travel to earlier or later flights within the same class of service may do so for flights departing March 5 through 7, 2007, without penalty or administrative change fees subject to availability.
Self-service rebooking is available. E-Ticket customers are encouraged to reschedule their trip under these waiver guidelines using nwa.com's Manage My Reservations
For assistance with changes outside the guidelines noted above, please contact Northwest Reservations at 1-800-225-2525.
All passengers should check flight and gate status prior to leaving for the airport.
Updated February 27, 2007 - 2:30 p.m. CST
Due to winter weather in the U.S. upper Midwest, Northwest Airlines has issued a weather waiver for passengers with confirmed tickets for travel February 27 through March 2, 2007 to, from or through the state of Minnesota and the cities of Eau Claire, LaCrosse, and Sioux Falls.
All affected passengers may reschedule their travel to earlier or later flights within the same cabin of service through March 4, 2007, without penalty or administrative change fees subject to availability.
Passengers wishing to reschedule their travel to earlier or later flights within the same class of service may do so for flights departing March 5 through 7, 2007, without penalty or administrative change fees subject to availability.
Self-service rebooking is available. E-Ticket customers are encouraged to reschedule their trip under these waiver guidelines using nwa.com's Manage My Reservations
For assistance with changes outside the guidelines noted above, please contact Northwest Reservations at 1-800-225-2525.
All passengers should check flight and gate status prior to leaving for the airport.
Update #1: New weather waiver posted 2/27 @ 6pm CST (changes: added text about unaccompanied minors and pets in the cargo holds)
Last edited by SchmutzigMSP; Feb 28, 2007 at 11:02 am
Feb 27, 2007, 5:01 pm
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This is not exciting. 
Feb 27, 2007, 5:09 pm
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Links for Armchair Meterologists/Pilots/etc.
(Copied from the previous weekend's thread for those getting ready 
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Here are some useful links if people want to try and stay on top of everything:
MSP-area live traffic map:
http://www.dot.state.mn.us/tmc/trafficinfo/traffic.html
MSP-area live traffic cameras:
http://www.dot.state.mn.us/tmc/traff...meras_map.html
Traffic-cam located closest to the airport (KMSP):
http://www.dot.state.mn.us/tmc/traff...meras/100.html
Live ATC: KMSP ground traffic frequency:
http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/kmsp_gnd.m3u
Live ATC: KMSP tower frequency:
http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/kmsp_twr.m3u
MSP AIRPORT STATUS INFORMATION (provided by the FAA's Air Traffic Control System Command Center)
http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/flyfaa...p?ARPT=MSP&p=1
Animated Doppler Radar (600-mi radius from MSP) enhanced to show snowstorms (updated every 15 minutes):
http://www.weather.com/weather/map/U...animated&day=1
Animated North-Central U.S. NEXRAD image loop:
http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/uppermissvly_loop.php
Animated MSP-area NEXRAD image loop (updated every 10 minutes):
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?r...01111&loop=yes
Animated Upper Midwest IR Satellite imagery (updated every ~15 minutes):
http://adds.aviationweather.gov/sate...tiple&itype=ir
)Here are some useful links if people want to try and stay on top of everything:
MSP-area live traffic map:
http://www.dot.state.mn.us/tmc/trafficinfo/traffic.html
MSP-area live traffic cameras:
http://www.dot.state.mn.us/tmc/traff...meras_map.html
Traffic-cam located closest to the airport (KMSP):
http://www.dot.state.mn.us/tmc/traff...meras/100.html
Live ATC: KMSP ground traffic frequency:
http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/kmsp_gnd.m3u
Live ATC: KMSP tower frequency:
http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/kmsp_twr.m3u
MSP AIRPORT STATUS INFORMATION (provided by the FAA's Air Traffic Control System Command Center)
http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/flyfaa...p?ARPT=MSP&p=1
Animated Doppler Radar (600-mi radius from MSP) enhanced to show snowstorms (updated every 15 minutes):
http://www.weather.com/weather/map/U...animated&day=1
Animated North-Central U.S. NEXRAD image loop:
http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/uppermissvly_loop.php
Animated MSP-area NEXRAD image loop (updated every 10 minutes):
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?r...01111&loop=yes
Animated Upper Midwest IR Satellite imagery (updated every ~15 minutes):
http://adds.aviationweather.gov/sate...tiple&itype=ir
Last edited by SchmutzigMSP; Feb 28, 2007 at 11:39 am Reason: Added weather.com doppler radar link
Feb 27, 2007, 5:28 pm
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We'll have to keep an eye on the temperatures associated with this storm. Paul Douglas on WCCO said there will be ice in southern MN and Wisconsin. Hopefully temps aloft stay below freezing so that this winter storm will be entirely snow. During the last storm there were temperatures above freezing not far off the ground.
Feb 27, 2007, 6:02 pm
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winter = death
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Feb 27, 2007, 6:04 pm
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That's a good point. The major reason for the delays at KMSP on Saturday was the formation of ice on the taxiways and aprons because the temperature was hovering around 31 °F - 32 °F.
Feb 27, 2007, 6:22 pm
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That Nexrad image loop requires a username/password. I believe you can see roughly the same thing here:
Minnesota & surrounding area
Entire Lower 48
Minnesota & surrounding area
Entire Lower 48
Feb 27, 2007, 7:38 pm
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Feb 27, 2007, 7:53 pm
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Feb 27, 2007, 7:54 pm
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Great -- In DFW area this evening (it's very nice -- what coat?).
On NW 414 DFW-MSP in the morning. Just like last week, home in time to shovel.
On NW 414 DFW-MSP in the morning. Just like last week, home in time to shovel.
Feb 27, 2007, 8:36 pm
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Feb 27, 2007, 9:01 pm
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Here's the scoop:
Meteorology: Wednesday, 1-2 inches by 9pm, 3-5 inches by midnight. heavy snow Thursday, maybe a foot btw 9am and midnight Thursday. Thursday, crosswind concern, maybe operating on single runway. 1/4- 1/2 mile visibility. overflights possible to keep flights out of MSP. They will not continue to pump flights into MSP if operating on a single runway, but they don't want to CXL roundtrips out of MSP either and end up with stuck planes on the ground.
Meteorology: Wednesday, 1-2 inches by 9pm, 3-5 inches by midnight. heavy snow Thursday, maybe a foot btw 9am and midnight Thursday. Thursday, crosswind concern, maybe operating on single runway. 1/4- 1/2 mile visibility. overflights possible to keep flights out of MSP. They will not continue to pump flights into MSP if operating on a single runway, but they don't want to CXL roundtrips out of MSP either and end up with stuck planes on the ground.
Feb 27, 2007, 11:16 pm
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If MSP is not your final destination, now's a good time to book through another hub.
I was on the 2:58PM LAX-MSP flight Thursday and I just pushed back to the 00:10 LAX-DTW redeye Friday morning on the weather waiver. Lots of F availability, too.
Of course, it's touch and go in MSN, too, on Friday, but I feel better about my chances going through DTW.
Because I'm me I checked the KVS tool before changing. I'll change, but I don't want to ride in Y if I can help it, either
I was on the 2:58PM LAX-MSP flight Thursday and I just pushed back to the 00:10 LAX-DTW redeye Friday morning on the weather waiver. Lots of F availability, too.
Of course, it's touch and go in MSN, too, on Friday, but I feel better about my chances going through DTW.
Because I'm me I checked the KVS tool before changing. I'll change, but I don't want to ride in Y if I can help it, either
