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Old Sep 7, 2006, 9:41 am
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Northwest to Fly Grand Rapids (GRR) - New York (LGA) Nonstop
Largest U.S. city to become Northwest's newest nonstop destination from Grand Rapids


GRAND RAPIDS, Mich., Sept. 7 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Northwest Airlines today announced that it will begin offering its first nonstop service between Grand Rapids' Gerald R. Ford International Airport and New York's LaGuardia Airport, beginning Nov. 1, 2006.

"Our large and loyal customer base in Grand Rapids will now have a nonstop option to New York on Northwest, enabling them to earn WorldPerks frequent flyer miles," said Phil Haan, executive vice president of international, alliances and information technology at Northwest Airlines and chairman of NWA Cargo.

"Northwest's comprehensive network, convenient and reliable schedules, competitive fares and hassle-free hub airports have made us the leading choice of travelers in Grand Rapids, the state of Michigan and throughout the Heartland of America," Haan added.

The new flight will be operated by Northwest Airlink partner Pinnacle Airlines with a 50-seat Canadair Regional Jet (CRJ).

I guess the question is why? is there that much O/D traffic between these two cities that it requires a direct vs a one stop in DTW. Thats ~2 hrs in a CRJ...

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Old Sep 7, 2006, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by thezipper
I guess the question is why? is there that much O/D traffic between these two cities that it requires a direct vs a one stop in DTW. Thats ~2 hrs in a CRJ...

Press Release Here
They may have noticed the success of AA's daily flight (began 6/9) or are using a dormant slot before it expires.
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Old Sep 7, 2006, 10:45 am
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I am sure they have good o/d traffic and they win two ways: 1) GRR folks get a non-stop alternative who would complan about that even in a crj and 2) now they have more seats into LGA for connectors which they won't have any problem filling as LGA and NYC in general is a busy business market.
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Old Sep 7, 2006, 11:24 am
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NW's times seem reasonable for O&D travelers, especially for travelers in West Michigan who may not want to wake up at 4 a.m. to make a 6:30 a.m. departure. Also, for NW travellers, it will probably cut a couple hours off travel time each way vs. a connection in DTW (land, taxi, deplane, tram/walkway/tunnel to connecting gate, wait, board, taxi, takeoff), plus eliminates the possibility of misconnecting and greatly reduces the likelihood of lost/delayed luggage on that business trip to NYC.

AA GRR-LGA 6:30a-8:29a ERJ
CO GRR-EWR 6:35a-8:28a ERJ
NW GRR-LGA 8a-10a CRJ
CO GRR-EWR 5:35p-7:50p ERJ

CO EWR-GRR 6:45a-9:06a ERJ
CO EWR-GRR 2:40p-4:45p ERJ
NW LGA-GRR 5:35p-7:42p CRJ
AA LGA-GRR 6:40p-8:55p ERJ
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Old Sep 7, 2006, 11:44 am
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Originally Posted by thezipper
Thats ~2 hrs in a CRJ...
That's about average for CRJ flights. Perhaps they're just establishing the market with whatever they have available (DC9s aren't going to be brought out from the desert for this run) and when they get their new fangled CRJ-900s or EMB-175s, it will seem like a nice upgrade.
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Old Sep 7, 2006, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by cabinpressure
NW's times seem reasonable for O&D travelers, especially for travelers in West Michigan who may not want to wake up at 4 a.m. to make a 6:30 a.m. departure. Also, for NW travellers, it will probably cut a couple hours off travel time each way vs. a connection in DTW (land, taxi, deplane, tram/walkway/tunnel to connecting gate, wait, board, taxi, takeoff), plus eliminates the possibility of misconnecting and greatly reduces the likelihood of lost/delayed luggage on that business trip to NYC.

AA GRR-LGA 6:30a-8:29a ERJ
CO GRR-EWR 6:35a-8:28a ERJ
NW GRR-LGA 8a-10a CRJ
CO GRR-EWR 5:35p-7:50p ERJ

CO EWR-GRR 6:45a-9:06a ERJ
CO EWR-GRR 2:40p-4:45p ERJ
NW LGA-GRR 5:35p-7:42p CRJ
AA LGA-GRR 6:40p-8:55p ERJ
Actually a 10Am arrival at LGA not really business freindly beacuse ite mans you can't really make a meeting before 11am likewise a 5:35pm departure back beacuse that means a meeting would need to end by 3pm or so. Doesn't seem to be geared twoard someone who wants to make a one-day no overnight trip. AA schedule much more business friendly.
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Old Sep 7, 2006, 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by otralot
Actually a 10Am arrival at LGA not really business freindly beacuse ite mans you can't really make a meeting before 11am likewise a 5:35pm departure back beacuse that means a meeting would need to end by 3pm or so. Doesn't seem to be geared twoard someone who wants to make a one-day no overnight trip. AA schedule much more business friendly.
I agree I do not think the schedule is that great. I am willing to bet the route is built around having anb extra aircraft. Delta has been doing this a lot in BNA with CRJ flights to a couple of places.
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Old Sep 8, 2006, 7:43 am
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How does this work with the LAS flights? Could this be an useful alternative?
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Old Sep 8, 2006, 8:05 am
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What does the CRJ do between 10am and 5:35pm?
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Old Sep 8, 2006, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by UnitedSkies
What does the CRJ do between 10am and 5:35pm?
From NW press release about new IND service:

Northwest will offer a fourth nonstop flight between Indianapolis and New York starting Nov. 1, 2006. The addition of a fourth flight provides travelers between New York and Indianapolis with a broad array of schedule choices during the day.

Flight 4775 will depart Indianapolis at 2:30 p.m. and arrive in New York at 4:40 p.m., operating daily except Saturday. Flight 4776 will depart New York at 10:45 a.m. and arrive in Indianapolis at 1:15 p.m., operating daily except Sunday.

The fourth Indianapolis-New York flight will be operated by Northwest Airlink partner Pinnacle Airlines, with a 50-seat Canadair Regional Jet (CRJ).
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Old Sep 8, 2006, 12:47 pm
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sweet! i'm starting to fly more and more out of GRR. great little airport. short lines. clean. free wifi. decent parking. direct to LAS. etc.
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