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lambrettaStarr Aug 22, 2006 4:37 pm

Spoiled Silver
 
Terribly disappointed - I have not been upgraded for my MCO-DTW leg tomorrow afternoon. First time I will have to fly coach in 23 segments. GRRRR.

Oh well, only 5k away from Gold, hopefully this won't happen again ;)

NWA_5479 Aug 22, 2006 4:43 pm


Originally Posted by lambrettaStarr
Terribly disappointed - I have not been upgraded for my MCO-DTW leg tomorrow afternoon. First time I will have to fly coach in 23 segments. GRRRR.

Oh well, only 5k away from Gold, hopefully this won't happen again ;)


If you are on 426 or 422....don't worry too much about it. I see good things for you in the battlefield. ;)

Report back!

DTWflyer Aug 22, 2006 4:43 pm

Wow, many Plats would love to have your upgrade record for this year.....

mjcoffey Aug 22, 2006 4:54 pm


Originally Posted by DTWflyer
Wow, many Plats would love to have your upgrade record for this year.....

Yeah, I haven't had that good of an upgrade record this year as a GE.

DanTravels Aug 22, 2006 5:19 pm

Since making SE I've done 8 NW segments (LGA-MSP-SEA-KOA-SEA-MSP- EWR-MSP-HNL) and 3 partner segments on HA (HNL-ITO-HNL-ITO). Got EUA'ed on LGA-MSP-SEA, was in Y SEA-KOA, and upgraded myself KOA-SEA-MSP-EWR-MSP-HNL.

Alas, the rest of the year looks like ITO-HNL-NRT-PEK-AMS-EDI-AMS-NBO-EBB-NBO-AMS-EDI-AMS-PEK(-SYX- PEK?)-NRT-HNL-ITO (with possible substitution of ICN for NRT) and everything the other side of PEK will be KE, KL or KQ, so I'm going to be doing a lot of BIS in Y. :(

Maybe I should do one more domestic RT just for kicks, and upgrade it.

DTW-HomeyFour Aug 22, 2006 5:19 pm


Originally Posted by mjcoffey
Yeah, I haven't had that good of an upgrade record this year as a GE.

Neither have I... I had better luck as a Silver! However, my destinations have changed recently and have added far more DTW-BOS evening trips and MANY more CRJ flights.

lambrettaStarr Aug 22, 2006 5:56 pm


Originally Posted by NWA_5479
If you are on 426 or 422....don't worry too much about it. I see good things for you in the battlefield. ;)

Report back!


Nope...431...still seeing things?

Also, my return flight the next evening via MEM-MCO is not upgraded, whereas the BWI-MEM is already.

Interestingly enough I will scrape by before potential CHAOS as my plane lands in MCO around 11:59 PM on 8/24. Talk about the skin of one's teeth!

lambrettaStarr Aug 22, 2006 6:00 pm


Originally Posted by DTWflyer
Wow, many Plats would love to have your upgrade record for this year.....


Is it just plats out of DTW and MSP that have it so hard? My destinations have been:

BOS, IND, GRR, EWR, SFO, MSP, MKE, DTW, OMA....

Couple of those have been multiple trips...

Being a NWA WP member seems not so bad out of MCO. EXCEPT, there's fewer non-stops - but I am happy to take multiple legs if I am able to relax with a glass of wine, hit the worldclub and get some work done, etc. So connections don't bother me too much.

CmdrThor Aug 22, 2006 6:18 pm


Originally Posted by lambrettaStarr
Interestingly enough I will scrape by before potential CHAOS as my plane lands in MCO around 11:59 PM on 8/24. Talk about the skin of one's teeth!

Pfft, I land at 8:24pm CDT on 8/25, about a half hour before potential CHAOS :cool: And that is my outbound ... The return on 8/28 should be fun.

blueskeyes Aug 22, 2006 10:57 pm

As a gold - I don't have high success on upgrading most of my flights, other than at the gate.

Hats off to you!

clarence5ybr Aug 22, 2006 11:06 pm


Originally Posted by blueskeyes
As a gold - I don't have high success on upgrading most of my flights, other than at the gate.

UGs as a Silver and Gold can vary highly based on route, day, and time of day. As a Silver, I never missed in single UG into or out of ABQ (my home airport) in 2.5 years. I moved to RNO shortly after making Gold, and had about 50% success in and out of my home airport before NW left the market. As Silver, my UG% was always above 90, but I worked hard at it--Saturday flights, non-favored-by-business-traveler-time-of-day flights, careful comparison of F avail in nearby airports at time of purchase (e.g., low F avail for LGA-MSP, but good avail for a JFK-MSP flight with near-identical departure time would mean I flew out of JFK).

myk Aug 23, 2006 7:28 am

So far I've had 100% success as a Silver, then Gold, then Plat this year.

The few times that it was an elite heavy flight (CMH-DTW thursday night) I was on a Y/B so upgraded automatically/very quickly

BearX220 Aug 23, 2006 7:39 am

I'm only about 50% as a Plat on flights to and from SEA this year. Yesterday I was on SEA-MSP on an expensive H fare and didn't make it.

jimc_usa Aug 23, 2006 10:31 am

I was close to 100%, but failed last Friday out of SFO. I think my FC was given to a priest with a collar!

DanTravels Aug 23, 2006 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by jimc_usa
I think my FC was given to a priest with a collar!

Was the collar studded? (Have to ask, in SFO. ;))

Sacfitz Aug 23, 2006 1:20 pm

As a Silver this year, I'm running about 60% of the time on upgrades. Actually had the best luck on my CO flights from SMF to IAH. :)

SacFitz

SpinzCity Aug 23, 2006 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by DanTravels
Was the collar studded? (Have to ask, in SFO. ;))

And were the studs platinum?

lambrettaStarr Aug 23, 2006 4:54 pm


Originally Posted by NWA_5479
If you are on 426 or 422....don't worry too much about it. I see good things for you in the battlefield. ;)

Report back!

I hopped on the earlier flight out - Flt 429. Was told I would be lucky to make standby at first and that there were many plats ahead of me for upgrades.

BAM! Hit the upgrade. I think the GA was toying with my emotions.

I hate coach like my daughter hates broccoli.

hoyateach Aug 23, 2006 10:00 pm


Originally Posted by lambrettaStarr
I hopped on the earlier flight out - Flt 429. Was told I would be lucky to make standby at first and that there were many plats ahead of me for upgrades.

BAM! Hit the upgrade. I think the GA was toying with my emotions.

I hate coach like my daughter hates broccoli.

Mmmm... broccoli...

aSiAnRiCk Aug 24, 2006 2:18 am

mmHmm .. I actually love broccoli :D

Anyway .. does anyone know if PBI-DTW and DTW-SAN (and vise versa) is elite heavy?

I just made SE yesterday and looking forward to my first upgrade. I'll be traveling during the week (9/20 & 9/27).

DTWflyer Aug 24, 2006 5:15 am

Welcome to elite status.....

Ballpark guess here:

PBI-DTW - midweek, you probably have a decent shot at an upgrade
DTW-SAN -very slim chance, upgrades lately have been hard to come by on West Coast flights, since they are very elite-heavy, plus paid F passengers. You'll be lucky if you do.

trekwars2000 Aug 24, 2006 8:25 am


Originally Posted by aSiAnRiCk
mmHmm .. I actually love broccoli :D

Anyway .. does anyone know if PBI-DTW and DTW-SAN (and vise versa) is elite heavy?

I just made SE yesterday and looking forward to my first upgrade. I'll be traveling during the week (9/20 & 9/27).

With the exception of anything to LAS the chances of a west coast upgrade are low. In addition, when there are certian conventions in town the chances of upgrades in/out of LAS for a SE are about zero.

msvacation Aug 24, 2006 9:12 am

Anyway .. does anyone know if PBI-DTW and DTW-SAN (and vise versa) is elite heavy?
I just made SE yesterday and looking forward to my first upgrade. I'll be traveling during the week (9/20 & 9/27



My cousin is SE and she has been getting upgrades on the DTW-PBI routes. I'm PE and always get Ug'd.

It doesn't appear that there are that many elites on the PBI-DTW route.

West coast....I agree with other posters.....Lots 'o luck :)

wgrc1971 Aug 24, 2006 9:39 am


Originally Posted by trekwars2000
With the exception of anything to LAS the chances of a west coast upgrade are low. In addition, when there are certian conventions in town the chances of upgrades in/out of LAS for a SE are about zero.

Do Silver Elites get to upgrade their companion? I had thought yes, but I think I read that you need to get to Gold or Platinum. That will stink for my companion!!! (If I am traveling with my wife, I think I will stay in coach). Can I give her my FC seat and stay in coach? At least we'd have a better chance at the "first row coach" seats as a Silver.....

clarence5ybr Aug 24, 2006 12:42 pm


Originally Posted by wgrc1971
Do Silver Elites get to upgrade their companion? I had thought yes, but I think I read that you need to get to Gold or Platinum.

No, on NW Golds and Plats only.


Originally Posted by wgrc1971
Can I give her my FC seat and stay in coach? At least we'd have a better chance at the "first row coach" seats as a Silver.....

Yes, you can do this, however if you are on the same PNR as a non-elite pax, you won't get a UG. If you want to try to get your UG and give the seat to your companion, call the elite line and ask them to split your PNRs [doing this may or may not result in the loss of your companion's ability to sit in a "P" seat--I haven't had experience with this in a while and not sure how it's working now].

james318 Aug 24, 2006 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by DTWflyer
Welcome to elite status.....

Ballpark guess here:

PBI-DTW - midweek, you probably have a decent shot at an upgrade
DTW-SAN -very slim chance, upgrades lately have been hard to come by on West Coast flights, since they are very elite-heavy, plus paid F passengers. You'll be lucky if you do.

When I flew DTW(sunday)-SAN-DTW(thursday) in late July, F flew with several seats open on each flight. I was upgraded days before the flight both ways.

trekwars2000 Aug 24, 2006 2:42 pm


Originally Posted by clarence5ybr
No, on NW Golds and Plats only.

Yes, you can do this, however if you are on the same PNR as a non-elite pax, you won't get a UG. If you want to try to get your UG and give the seat to your companion, call the elite line and ask them to split your PNRs [doing this may or may not result in the loss of your companion's ability to sit in a "P" seat--I haven't had experience with this in a while and not sure how it's working now].

I'm not married, but I explained to the elite agent that I was traveling with a buddy and we would like the Aisle and Middle seat in row 1 coach and she called the seating department so she could move him to there. I took the middle in case I got the upgrade so that would leave him on the aisle. If I miss the upgrade I told him I want the aisle and he'd have to sit in the middle - he agreed.

So just give them a call, I don't see them not giving her a P seat next to you.

otralot Aug 24, 2006 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by BearX220
I'm only about 50% as a Plat on flights to and from SEA this year. Yesterday I was on SEA-MSP on an expensive H fare and didn't make it.

I always have good luck in and out of SEA as a plat. Even scored a companion UG on the 23rd to MSP.

aSiAnRiCk Aug 24, 2006 4:20 pm


Originally Posted by DTWflyer
Welcome to elite status.....

Ballpark guess here:

PBI-DTW - midweek, you probably have a decent shot at an upgrade
DTW-SAN -very slim chance, upgrades lately have been hard to come by on West Coast flights, since they are very elite-heavy, plus paid F passengers. You'll be lucky if you do.

Thanks for the welcome and thanks for the info. Though I always thought midweek have less chance of an upgrade due to the business travelers traveling during the week.

Originally Posted by msvacation
My cousin is SE and she has been getting upgrades on the DTW-PBI routes. I'm PE and always get Ug'd.

It doesn't appear that there are that many elites on the PBI-DTW route.


Originally Posted by james318
When I flew DTW(sunday)-SAN-DTW(thursday) in late July, F flew with several seats open on each flight.

That's good to hear :D

Thanks again

jjlovecub Aug 25, 2006 11:01 am


Originally Posted by trekwars2000
With the exception of anything to LAS the chances of a west coast upgrade are low. In addition, when there are certian conventions in town the chances of upgrades in/out of LAS for a SE are about zero.

You know that's funny because I have the most difficult time getting upgraded out of LAS as a PE. In fact my flight on Sept 4th is already showing 19 of 22 seats filled. As for the OP I would love to have his success. I'm at about 80% upgrade success this year. I always read these posts about 100% upgrade success and wonder where they fly that they have such great luck.

mnredfox Aug 25, 2006 4:06 pm


Originally Posted by wgrc1971
Do Silver Elites get to upgrade their companion? I had thought yes, but I think I read that you need to get to Gold or Platinum. That will stink for my companion!!! (If I am traveling with my wife, I think I will stay in coach). Can I give her my FC seat and stay in coach? At least we'd have a better chance at the "first row coach" seats as a Silver.....

Actually I got a companion UG once when F was totally empty except me and another when I was SE. Ask the GA if F seems ghost-like.

UVAhoo06 Aug 26, 2006 1:17 pm

I've never been on CO metal as a SE member, but I was wondering whether you all have any insight as to whether MHT-EWR is elite heavy. Any help would be greatly appreciated!


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