Detroit Free Press Atricle - Explaining current strike situation
Feb 16, 2006, 9:36 am
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Detroit Free Press Atricle - Explaining current strike situation
I know many of us have been watching things develop with the potential strike. I came across a fairly unbiased (IMHO) article this morning that I thought would help explain things for those aren't already up to speed....
It has the issues that are being fought over in court, potential court rulings and their impact, important NWA dates, and some information about NewCo.
Article at: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...602160527/1018
Please do not turn this thread into a flame war, I'm simply passing along a good article explaining the situation. I know some people don't get a chance to peruse the fourms and this will help get them up to speed.
(Mods, feel free to roll this into an existing thread if you feel)
It has the issues that are being fought over in court, potential court rulings and their impact, important NWA dates, and some information about NewCo.
Article at: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...602160527/1018
Please do not turn this thread into a flame war, I'm simply passing along a good article explaining the situation. I know some people don't get a chance to peruse the fourms and this will help get them up to speed.
(Mods, feel free to roll this into an existing thread if you feel)
Feb 16, 2006, 9:51 am
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Thanks for the link. It is one of the more objective summarizations of what is going on.
It does instill a tad more confidence that NW will survive this threat.
It does instill a tad more confidence that NW will survive this threat.
Feb 16, 2006, 11:01 am
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I think this does a very good job describing the situiation. Although I would not call it totally unbiased, it is from Detroit, a city dependent on NWA for its airtravel, it does provide a very good overview.
Thanks for the link.
Thanks for the link.
Feb 16, 2006, 11:08 am
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What would happen if NWA goes under? Who do you think would step into Detroit? Someone from the SkyTeam? With the new airport, I can't imagine it would sit empty for long...
Originally Posted by RobtheAggie
I think this does a very good job describing the situiation. Although I would not call it totally unbiased, it is from Detroit, a city dependent on NWA for its airtravel, it does provide a very good overview.
Thanks for the link.
Thanks for the link.
Feb 16, 2006, 11:10 am
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Thanks for the link. It does seem a fair summary of what is going to happen in the next few weeks. My fingers are crossed.
Feb 16, 2006, 11:39 am
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Nothing new as far as I can see????
We all know the Detroit Free Press is the liberal one in town. Lets see what the folks at the more conservative Detroit News have to say.
Lets remember now, the newspaper had their own strike not to long ago and permanently replaced 1000 union employees. Most who are still on a preferrential hiring list, but most likely will never return to their high paid-high benefits jobs. That strike was a defining moment in labor/management relations in the newspaper industry. Not many Big Newspaper strikes since.
We all know the Detroit Free Press is the liberal one in town. Lets see what the folks at the more conservative Detroit News have to say.
Lets remember now, the newspaper had their own strike not to long ago and permanently replaced 1000 union employees. Most who are still on a preferrential hiring list, but most likely will never return to their high paid-high benefits jobs. That strike was a defining moment in labor/management relations in the newspaper industry. Not many Big Newspaper strikes since.
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Feb 16, 2006, 11:53 am
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Google news 'NWA'... there are some hilarious stories out there. I like the one about NWA spending $300,000+ on "personal protection" for the execs during the first couple weeks of the strike 
Originally Posted by mdelaur
Nothing new as far as I can see????
We all know the Detroit Free Press is the liberal one in town. Lets see what the folks at the more conservative Detroit News have to say.
Lets remember now, the newspaper had their own strike not to long ago and permanently replaced 1000 union employees. Most who are still on a preferrential hiring list, but most likely will never return to their high paid-high benefits jobs. That strike was a defining moment in labor/management relations in the newspaper industry. Not many Big Newspaper strikes since.
We all know the Detroit Free Press is the liberal one in town. Lets see what the folks at the more conservative Detroit News have to say.
Lets remember now, the newspaper had their own strike not to long ago and permanently replaced 1000 union employees. Most who are still on a preferrential hiring list, but most likely will never return to their high paid-high benefits jobs. That strike was a defining moment in labor/management relations in the newspaper industry. Not many Big Newspaper strikes since.
Feb 16, 2006, 12:03 pm
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Bbbbbbbut this does not add to the strike hysteria!
Moderator, close this thread!!!
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Feb 16, 2006, 12:03 pm
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The union has counter-offered to have its pilots fly smaller jets on a different pay scale, but Northwest contends those pilots would eventually insist on matching wages with other pilots if the airline returned to financial health.
I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just confused as to this paragraph -- is that really the position of NW or is this a case of a journalist not understanding a legal filing?
Feb 16, 2006, 12:11 pm
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I don't quite think it does (unless people start hyping it up, which I don't see happening in this thread).
Personally I hope a strike is averted, by both sides coming to their senses ^ (and I have a feeling they will)
Mods, feel free to lock this down before it comes a runaway thread if you like...
Personally I hope a strike is averted, by both sides coming to their senses ^ (and I have a feeling they will)
Mods, feel free to lock this down before it comes a runaway thread if you like...
Originally Posted by skofarrell
Bbbbbbbut this does not add to the strike hysteria!
Moderator, close this thread!!!
Moderator, close this thread!!!
Feb 16, 2006, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by kcnwa
I know many of us have been watching things develop with the potential strike. I came across a fairly unbiased (IMHO) article this morning that I thought would help explain things for those aren't already up to speed....
It has the issues that are being fought over in court, potential court rulings and their impact, important NWA dates, and some information about NewCo.
Article at: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...602160527/1018
It has the issues that are being fought over in court, potential court rulings and their impact, important NWA dates, and some information about NewCo.
Article at: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...602160527/1018
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Feb 16, 2006, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by HeelLaw
Huh? How is that a problem? If a company is turning a profit why wouldn't/shouldn't/couldn't they pass some of it along to employees?
I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just confused as to this paragraph -- is that really the position of NW or is this a case of a journalist not understanding a legal filing?
I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just confused as to this paragraph -- is that really the position of NW or is this a case of a journalist not understanding a legal filing?
Feb 16, 2006, 1:20 pm
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Wow. I wonder if the bankruptcy judge will look at this as a good faith effort if they are already saying that they wouldn't want to pay employees more when/if they return to profitability. It's like the argument is:
"Because we're losing money, you should let us void our legal contracts and pay our employees far less. But if we make money we don't want to pay them any more."
Weird strategy, IMO.
"Because we're losing money, you should let us void our legal contracts and pay our employees far less. But if we make money we don't want to pay them any more."
Weird strategy, IMO.
Feb 16, 2006, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by kcnwa
What would happen if NWA goes under? Who do you think would step into Detroit? Someone from the SkyTeam? With the new airport, I can't imagine it would sit empty for long...
Feb 16, 2006, 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by mdelaur
Nothing new as far as I can see????
We all know the Detroit Free Press is the liberal one in town. Lets see what the folks at the more conservative Detroit News have to say.
Lets remember now, the newspaper had their own strike not to long ago and permanently replaced 1000 union employees. Most who are still on a preferrential hiring list, but most likely will never return to their high paid-high benefits jobs. That strike was a defining moment in labor/management relations in the newspaper industry. Not many Big Newspaper strikes since.
We all know the Detroit Free Press is the liberal one in town. Lets see what the folks at the more conservative Detroit News have to say.
Lets remember now, the newspaper had their own strike not to long ago and permanently replaced 1000 union employees. Most who are still on a preferrential hiring list, but most likely will never return to their high paid-high benefits jobs. That strike was a defining moment in labor/management relations in the newspaper industry. Not many Big Newspaper strikes since.