paper towels as napkins in F out of HNL?
May 28, 2005, 6:05 am
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paper towels as napkins in F out of HNL?
i flew MSP-HNL in F on the DC10. great service, great meals, hot towels, addressed by name, very attentive FAs. a great start to the trip.
i returned last night HNL-SEA-MSP. the HNL-SEA segment was on the DC10, in F again. no choice for meal this time, and the plastic silverware (i guess i should call it plasticware) was wrapped in a bounty paper towel! there were no cloth napkins on this flight, simply a paper towel folded nice and neat. (albeit a thick papertowel). both my travelling companion and i were shocked. (there were also bagels loaded for a flight leaving at 115pm).
i hope the pax in WBC to NRT that left right after our flight werent given paper towels as well...
first spinzels, and now napkins....
i returned last night HNL-SEA-MSP. the HNL-SEA segment was on the DC10, in F again. no choice for meal this time, and the plastic silverware (i guess i should call it plasticware) was wrapped in a bounty paper towel! there were no cloth napkins on this flight, simply a paper towel folded nice and neat. (albeit a thick papertowel). both my travelling companion and i were shocked. (there were also bagels loaded for a flight leaving at 115pm).
i hope the pax in WBC to NRT that left right after our flight werent given paper towels as well...
first spinzels, and now napkins....
May 28, 2005, 6:22 am
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I had paper towels in FC on all my flights last week.
May 28, 2005, 7:19 am
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The introduction of "plinen" started with the reduction in domestic F service at the beginning of May.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...ghlight=plinen
By the way, I have West Coast <--> HNL flights set for next week. Do they still offer a choice of entrees in F on the HNL flights? Do they still do sundaes? Would you eat your F meal on the flight out of HNL (given what we've read about Gate Gourmet)?
My guess is
1) no
2) no
3) depends on if I want to take a chance on my life
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...ghlight=plinen
By the way, I have West Coast <--> HNL flights set for next week. Do they still offer a choice of entrees in F on the HNL flights? Do they still do sundaes? Would you eat your F meal on the flight out of HNL (given what we've read about Gate Gourmet)?
My guess is
1) no
2) no
3) depends on if I want to take a chance on my life
Last edited by DJMeatBall; May 28, 2005 at 7:21 am
May 28, 2005, 11:56 am
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I'm doing the late MSP-HNL on Memorial Day and returning via the early HNL-MSP on April 10, and I'll have a chance to see how badly the "premium" Hawaii service has degraded. You can expect another lengthy trip report to follow at least the outbound...
I'll take bets that the pictures I took in that thread are the last we'll see of silverware, linens, and taste. I understand some people are adamant that the silverware change is temporary...but as they've eliminated all coach meals, and charged for pretzels, and made an already anemic first class even less desirable, does anybody really believe that?
I'll take bets that the pictures I took in that thread are the last we'll see of silverware, linens, and taste. I understand some people are adamant that the silverware change is temporary...but as they've eliminated all coach meals, and charged for pretzels, and made an already anemic first class even less desirable, does anybody really believe that?
May 28, 2005, 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by DJMeatBall
By the way, I have West Coast <--> HNL flights set for next week. Do they still offer a choice of entrees in F on the HNL flights? Do they still do sundaes? Would you eat your F meal on the flight out of HNL (given what we've read about Gate Gourmet)?
My guess is
1) no
2) no
3) depends on if I want to take a chance on my life
My guess is
1) no
2) no
3) depends on if I want to take a chance on my life
Also, Gate Gourmet has since received a passing grade out of HNL--but it's still at your own risk...
May 28, 2005, 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by rmyadsk
I'm doing the late MSP-HNL on Memorial Day and returning via the early HNL-MSP on April 10, and I'll have a chance to see how badly the "premium" Hawaii service has degraded. You can expect another lengthy trip report to follow at least the outbound...
I'll take bets that the pictures I took in that thread are the last we'll see of silverware, linens, and taste. I understand some people are adamant that the silverware change is temporary...but as they've eliminated all coach meals, and charged for pretzels, and made an already anemic first class even less desirable, does anybody really believe that?
I'll take bets that the pictures I took in that thread are the last we'll see of silverware, linens, and taste. I understand some people are adamant that the silverware change is temporary...but as they've eliminated all coach meals, and charged for pretzels, and made an already anemic first class even less desirable, does anybody really believe that?
May 28, 2005, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by slippahs
On the return, there was only a small snack and drink service upon arrival (HNL-PDX is a red-eye).
Has this gone away to a "small" snack?
May 28, 2005, 4:21 pm
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Originally Posted by rmyadsk
I did the HNL-PDX redeye back in late December and for the "snack" we had the chicken/mayo dijon-salad thing along with a roll and chocolate cake. I don't remember if we had a salad with it, though. Definitely a lot of food before trying to sleep for the night, but still much appreciated.
Has this gone away to a "small" snack?
Has this gone away to a "small" snack?
May 28, 2005, 7:15 pm
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It's a matter of cost -- Can't offer additional amenities below cost
NW is reducing domestic FC service including to HNL because they are still losing $$$ and can't afford to continue to lose money every quarter.
I recently was in WBC to FCO returning from CDG and international WBC still has an elaborate meal service.
The cutbacks are only on domestic FC and coach.
RC
I recently was in WBC to FCO returning from CDG and international WBC still has an elaborate meal service.
The cutbacks are only on domestic FC and coach.
RC
May 29, 2005, 8:21 am
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How far can/will NW cut?
Originally Posted by Radiocycle
NW is reducing domestic FC service including to HNL because they are still losing $$$ and can't afford to continue to lose money every quarter.
I recently was in WBC to FCO returning from CDG and international WBC still has an elaborate meal service.
The cutbacks are only on domestic FC and coach.
RC
I recently was in WBC to FCO returning from CDG and international WBC still has an elaborate meal service.
The cutbacks are only on domestic FC and coach.
RC
I do agree that NW cannot continue to loose revenue. What scares me is the knee-jerk reactionary’s that seem to dominate the management ranks. It’s easy to cut services and not look for the real reason behind the sucking sounds of lost revenue. But with that type of limited thinking they will soon cut the services that set them apart from other airlines just a few short years ago.
May 31, 2005, 4:13 am
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Plinen: Remember to check your dipstick
Originally Posted by DJMeatBall
The introduction of "plinen" started with the reduction in domestic F service at the beginning of May.
I just had my first "plinen" experience yesterday on NW, on a PDX>MSP flight. I kept the "plinen" napkin, cause it reminded me I need to check the oil in the Ford when I get home.