BYOM: Bring Your Own Magazines
#16
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: eastern Europe & NC
Posts: 4,527
What about newspapers on international flights? Of course, NW (and DL) have for several years reduced the number they brought aboard so that it was questionable if you would get one if you flew in steerage. That is one of the amenities I like on most European carriers - plenty of newspapers.
I wonder how long NW will hold out on free alcohol trans-Atlantic. Cut that out and I will try to schedule my paid flights on AF!
I wonder how long NW will hold out on free alcohol trans-Atlantic. Cut that out and I will try to schedule my paid flights on AF!
#17
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Alexandria, VA, USA NW Platinum Elite Since 1999, United GoldMM, Hyatt Plat, SPG Gold, Hilton Gold, Hertz #1 Gold, IC Ambassador, Avis Chairman's
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Originally Posted by Carolinian
I wonder how long NW will hold out on free alcohol trans-Atlantic. Cut that out and I will try to schedule my paid flights on AF!
The no magazine krap is a lousy excuse... with the adverts that they wrap them with, i really wonder how much it costs....
#18
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Anywhere but home
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Originally Posted by fromYXU
IFE was removed years ago and has nothing to do with recent cuts in service. Not really an issue! Meals were a 2002 change.
The bottom line is that most people will fly a to B because of price not because of on board service.
I do not like it but that is the way most americans (FTs and non-FTs) look at flying right now. NW is really looking at what people are willing to accept in terms of service reduction.
The bottom line is that most people will fly a to B because of price not because of on board service.
I do not like it but that is the way most americans (FTs and non-FTs) look at flying right now. NW is really looking at what people are willing to accept in terms of service reduction.
#19
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: RST
Programs: Delta Diamond; Hilton Diamond; Accor Gold
Posts: 4,839
Originally Posted by FlytheTail
Okay, I see your point. But NW surely must realize that for the most part, we have several carrier options. If CO can get me from A to B at the same or slightly higher fare, then why wouldn't I choose them to get a meal, IFE, and a pillow on a longer flight? NW just seems to continue to give us reasons not to fly them.
You may choose service but the majority of flyers today are choosing cost.
#20
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: MSP
Programs: Hilton Gold, SPG PLAT, NWA Plat
Posts: 645
Originally Posted by GTITAN
OMG you have to be kidding? In the world clubs as well? Is this really going to save that much money? Unbelievable!
#21
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 5,075
Originally Posted by fromYXU
The bottom line is that most people will fly a to B because of price not because of on board service.
I do not like it but that is the way most americans (FTs and non-FTs) look at flying right now. NW is really looking at what people are willing to accept in terms of service reduction.
Good point but look at what is happening in PIT. Passengers have voted in favor of cheaper (and that can be questionable at times) Southwest fares over "better service" but more costly US Airways fares.
#22
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: RST
Programs: Delta Diamond; Hilton Diamond; Accor Gold
Posts: 4,839
Originally Posted by keithguy
If that's true, then won't passengers "vote in favor" of cheaper Southwest fares and free pretzels over the more costly Northwest Airlines fares?
#23
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 5,075
Originally Posted by fromYXU
That is what NW is afraid will happen. The public is already choosing Southwest over USAirways.
If price was the only thing customers base their decisions on, then NW's solution would be to cut prices, no?
#24
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 3,106
Requiring passengers to BYOM wouldn't be such a bad thing if the cleaners actually stocked leftover (and clean) recent magazines & reading materials in the magazine racks found throughout the plane.
Either NWA should tell their cleaners to keep them stocked, or NWA should rip out the magazine storage bins.
Either NWA should tell their cleaners to keep them stocked, or NWA should rip out the magazine storage bins.
#25
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA (previous locations: DTW, TLV, EWR, BOS)
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This is horrible news - not because of the magazine, but b/c of the direction NW is heading!
This is the 1st year I've made NW Elite. I'm going all the way - Platinum. I'm also considering a Lifetime WC membership - sounds like I may want to reconsider...
Wow, it's amazing how many times these companies make stupid short-term gains that cost them long-term profits!
This is the 1st year I've made NW Elite. I'm going all the way - Platinum. I'm also considering a Lifetime WC membership - sounds like I may want to reconsider...
Wow, it's amazing how many times these companies make stupid short-term gains that cost them long-term profits!
#26
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: DL-Platinum; Hyatt-Diamond; HHonors-Silver, Marriott- Gold
Posts: 625
Originally Posted by ewj
This is the kind of stuff the unions say they should do to save maoney and the airline exec say OK. IF NWA really wanted tos ave money they would stop flying half empty planes out of IND and MKE, drop flights to Dulles and Kennedy, and drop Delta as a partner.
I fly from IND, and NWA is my airline of choice. While I certainly do not fly on every plane leaving from IND, I've been on quite a few this year, and since the mini-hub changes, and I have not been on ONE half-empty plane. FWIW.
#27
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: IAD
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Originally Posted by keithguy
However, this service reduction does not imply that prices will be lower as a result.
To tell you the truth, I already: Bring my DVD player and a movie that I actually want to watch, bring my own snacks, and will eat before my flight or bring something to eat on the flight (something I actually want to eat, BTW), and I actually bring my own pillow. In other words, if a particular carrier offered "all of that" and charged $150 for the privelege, I'd save the $150.
So, for the time being, NW can cut all they want if they'll still offer the $250 fare. It's getting harder and harder to find, and the only time I've paid more than $350 is for a flight to a city with no competition.
#28
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: CDG
Programs: NW Gold Elite
Posts: 278
Just remember, these cuts are "what the customer wants".
#29
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: seattle
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not a bad idea
Originally Posted by HMizzle
They should just eliminate the planes. Quit dancing around the problem and get right to the source...lol.
Seriously though...NW is getting a bit crazy.
Seriously though...NW is getting a bit crazy.
Last edited by rwill11; May 28, 2005 at 2:24 pm
#30
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK - NWA Gold - AA Gold - Hilton Diamond - Marriott Gold
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Posts: 409
I can't wait til we have to bring our own seat cusions. Also, I'm looking forward to bringing my own toilet paper and my own flight attendant. Heck, I can't wait til I bring my own seat belt!
Shoot, wait. Are there any NW corporate lurkers here? Am I giving them any new ideas? Hope not.
Shoot, wait. Are there any NW corporate lurkers here? Am I giving them any new ideas? Hope not.