Sheraton Stockholm
Hey folks,
I will be in Stockholm (my first visit there) in the first half of June for a conference, which will be held at Stockholmsmässan. Currently I have a club room booked at the Sheraton in the city center, which I feel is quite expensive (~ USD550/night + tax). A couple of questions: 1. Am I right in thinking that the easiest way to commute would be by train, especially as the hotel is right across from the central station? 2. If train is the best way to commute, can I purchase a pass for a week or so? 3. Can this pass be combined with a return trip ticket to ARN? I'll greatly appreciate any insights you might have to share. Cheers! |
2. + 3.
72 hour ticket = 230 SEK 7 day ticket = 300 SEK Valid for commuter trains, metro, busses and the small ferry to Skansen. You need to buy a plastic access card ( 20 SEK ) to load these tickets on. The tickets are also valid to and fro from the airport on the regular commuter trains ( NOT the Arlanda Express ). There is a passage supplement fee of 75 SEK to be paid on leaving and entering the airport. Everything can be bought in the airport at the counter for the commuter trains. See link about tickets : http://sl.se/en/Visitor/Tickets/Visitor-tickets/ Absolutely use trains. There are many commuter trains to the Stockholmsmässan ( Älvsjö station ) and the trip should only be 10 minutes, they say. See link about transport to the Mässan : http://www.stockholmsmassan.se/prior...to%20find%20us Stockholm has a very good underground metro system which will be very useful for your leisure time. Map of metro system : http://sl.se/Global/Pdf/Kartor/vTub_karta.pdf Map of commuter trains and metro : http://sl.se/Global/Pdf/Kartor/spartrafik_zoner08.pdf Hotels are expensive in Stockholm. The Sheraton has a very good location for the central station and for the city in general. The Radisson Blue Royal Viking is also very well located ( I haven't stayed there) but I doubt it'll be cheaper. You could check out Nordic Choice Hotels. They have two hotels very near the central station ( Nordic Sea Hotel and Nordic Light Hotel ). I have not stayed there so this is not a recommendation just a suggestion. See link : https://www.nordicchoicehotels.com/?...140608/Room1,1 Have a nice trip; Stockholm is a fantastic city. |
$550/night? I am just glad I never have to pay more than $110/night to stay in nearly comparable (but slightly lower level) Stockholm hotels. :eek:
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 22675286)
$550/night? I am just glad I never have to pay more than $110/night to stay in nearly comparable (but slightly lower level) Stockholm hotels. :eek:
Cheers! |
Thank you helosc
Helosc, thank you so much for those links. That's a great deal of good info! Much appreciated!!
Cheers! |
Nordic Choice Hotels (link given earlier) should be cheaper. Add : especially if you give way on location. You pay for central location in Stockholm.
Another local chain is Elite Hotels. They should be cheaper also. See link : http://www.elite.se/eng/index It could be a good idea to split your reservation up to more than one reservation ( at the same hotel ) as weekends are often much cheaper than weekdays. And not all hotels gives you the cheap weekend price when you book for a period of both weekend and week nights. I love the hilton - they are very expensive on weekdays but sometimes very cheap on weekends. They treat their elite members very well. Add : I don't understand why you get quoted a price + tax. Tax in Sweden is always included in the price they show - in my experience. |
Originally Posted by helosc
(Post 22676682)
Nordic Choice Hotels (link given earlier) should be cheaper. Add : especially if you give way on location. You pay for central location in Stockholm.
Originally Posted by helosc
(Post 22676682)
Another local chain is Elite Hotels. They should be cheaper also. See link :
http://www.elite.se/eng/index It could be a good idea to split your reservation up to more than one reservation ( at the same hotel ) as weekends are often much cheaper than weekdays. And not all hotels gives you the cheap weekend price when you book for a period of both weekend and week nights.
Originally Posted by helosc
(Post 22676682)
I love the hilton - they are very expensive on weekdays but sometimes very cheap on weekends. They treat their elite members very well.
Originally Posted by helosc
(Post 22676682)
Add : I don't understand why you get quoted a price + tax.
Tax in Sweden is always included in the price they show - in my experience. Thanks for all your help! I sincerely appreciate it! |
If you do a search on the Hilton site with the flexible dates option you'll see that May 30-June 1 is fully booked and so is June 11 - June 12. So the response to a search for a longer period including any of these dates will come up as the hotel being fully booked for the whole period.
Anyway the hotel is not cheap at all for your period, not even on weekends. I have stayed there 3 or 4 times and I never paid more than about 1000 SEK on a weekend or holiday period. In Europe the general rule is that hotels are costly on weekdays ( they get enough business clients to fill up the hotels ) and cheap on weekends ( lack of business clients, so they want to fill up the hotels). There is normally also a sale for the July, August period which is also slow. There would be exceptions to this rule - hotels in obvious holiday destinations fx Dubrovnik ( where I am going on Saturday; I got the last cheap rate before the season starts ). |
Ok! Sheraton is near the Stockholm Central station. But there are a lot of hotels near the station.
But the area around the station is not so funny! Why not stay at Hotel Rival (www.rival.se) at Mariatorget on Södermalm? Lots of nice bars and restaurants close by. Not to expensive either. Really nice, short, walk to the commuter train station Stockholms Södra. Even closer to Älvsjö then Stockholm Central Station. Every train stops at Stockholms Södra. Also close to subway station Mariatorget. |
Originally Posted by helosc
(Post 22676682)
Nordic Choice Hotels (link given earlier) should be cheaper. Add : especially if you give way on location. You pay for central location in Stockholm.
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Originally Posted by HariBlue108
(Post 22674344)
Hey folks,
I will be in Stockholm (my first visit there) in the first half of June for a conference, which will be held at Stockholmsmässan. Currently I have a club room booked at the Sheraton in the city center, which I feel is quite expensive (~ USD550/night + tax). A couple of questions: 1. Am I right in thinking that the easiest way to commute would be by train, especially as the hotel is right across from the central station? 2. If train is the best way to commute, can I purchase a pass for a week or so? 3. Can this pass be combined with a return trip ticket to ARN? I'll greatly appreciate any insights you might have to share. Cheers! Own bakery, nice bar and a lot of chi chi dining nearby. South Side or Södermalm in Swedish is Stockholms Greenwich Village, more relaxed then down town (I mean come on, who wants to stay near the central station in any city?) Stockholm is walkable, especially that time of year. 2 min walk to train station (Stockholm Södra) then two stops to Stockholmsmässan (5 min). Bring your collegues for a drink and they will envy you, especially if staying at the Sheraton :) My other recomendations if you insist on staying more central (mind that it's only a 20 min walk or a 5 min cab at max 15 USD incl. tip) is: 1. http://www.lydmar.com 2. http://www.nobishotel.se/en/3-for-2-...Item_2-sv.html And for those who want to go ai, The Grand is second to none in Stockholm and where all the Nobel winners stay. Ask to stay in the new wing. Michellin star restaurants at your disposal: http://www.grandhotel.se/en |
Question about 72 hr and 7 day ticket
Originally Posted by helosc
(Post 22674818)
2. + 3.
72 hour ticket = 230 SEK 7 day ticket = 300 SEK Valid for commuter trains, metro, busses and the small ferry to Skansen. You need to buy a plastic access card ( 20 SEK ) to load these tickets on. The tickets are also valid to and fro from the airport on the regular commuter trains ( NOT the Arlanda Express ). There is a passage supplement fee of 75 SEK to be paid on leaving and entering the airport. Everything can be bought in the airport at the counter for the commuter trains. See link about tickets : http://sl.se/en/Visitor/Tickets/Visitor-tickets/ I have a question for you regarding the pricing for the 72 hrs and 7 day tickets. When I visited the website for SL, the pricing displayed shows a full price and a reduced price. What is the reduced price? I couldn't find an explanation on the website and nor in their Help & Contact section. If you can explain the restrictions on the reduced price I'd greatly appreciate it. So if I have my math right, I'm looking at spending 320 SEK for a 7 day ticket @ full price. SL Access Card - 20 SEK 7-day ticket - 300 SEK Now if I choose to use the train from ARN to Central Stockholm, then add on 150 SEK for a total of 470 SEK. Am I missing anything else in this calculation? A couple more questions: 1. If I use the 7 day ticket, am I going to be restricted in terms of which zones I can travel to? (a) Will I be able to use the same ticket on a train to Uppsala and back? 2. My flight lands at 7:25am on a Saturday and I fly out at 11:30am on the following Sunday. Considering that my trips from/to ARN will be on weekends, would it be advisable to take the regular commuter trains, especially because I'll have a large suitcase, a carry on and a backpack. Thank you for all your assistance! |
TheEagle and Anbrand, thanks for your suggestions!
@anbrand - though Paris chose to stay at the Rival I'm afraid that I'd have to choose between Hilton and the Sheraton. There must be something else going on besides the conference I'm attending as most of the hotels seem to be sold out on the 11th and some of them on the 14th as well. Thanks for your suggestions! |
Reduced price is for people under 20 or over 65.
Your calculations are correct. Your ticket is valid for greater stockholm but you need to buy an additional ticket for uppsala. I am not home and I only have my phone with me and the internet is slow so I cant really do a search for you but ask in a ticket office. Luggage shouldn't be a problem in neither the commuter trains nor the arlanda express. I am home by tuesday if you have more questions. |
Hello HariBlue108, I am home again.
Your 7 day ticket covers Stockholm zones ABC ( all of greater stockholm ). You are travelling with the transport company SL. Uppsala is outside of the SL zones. It is in the UL zones. See zone map : http://www.ul.se/Global/Biljetter/Ka...karta%20SL.pdf The two green colours are Stockholm ABC where your card is valid. The beige/yellow colours are UL zones which you need to buy an additional ticket for. As far as I can read you need a ticket for UL zone 1,2 and 5 in order to go to Uppsala. But buy your ticket in the SL ticket office in the central station Stockholm and be sure to show them your Access card and tell them you have a valid ticket for all of Stockholm - then you'll only have to pay for the UL zones. link to SL : http://sl.se/en/ link to UL : http://www.ul.se/en/ And please note that you have to use the commuter trains to Uppsala. The national train company which, just to confuse you, is called SJ uses another ticket system. As mentioned earlier your 7 day card is valid on the ferry to Djurgården: http://www.waxholmsbolaget.se/visito...rry-terminals/ It is also valid on the museum trams to Djurgården : http://www.djurgardslinjen.se/en/ You can use both the ferry and the tram to get to the open air museum Skansen which is really worth a visit if you have time : http://www.skansen.se/en/kategori/english I didn't understand your question about luggage earlier but now I think I do. You are asking if there will be place enough on the commuter train for your luggage, am I right ? I have used the commuter trains from/ to Arlanda the last 3 times I have been in Stockholm and they have never been more than half full, so lots of luggage shouldn't be a problem. |
I've taken the commuter train between Marsta and T-Centralen a lot. Luggage on the train is not generally a problem on that commuter line. The bus between Marsta and the airport can be an issue if it's a busy time of the day, but even that is not usually the case most of the day for most of the days.
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Thank you!
Hello Helosc & GUWonder,
Thank you both for your replies! Helosc, yes, your understanding about my question regarding the luggage on the commuter trains was correct. Traveling on a weekend, I'd expect the trains to be less crowded and the luggage to not be an issue, but its good to confirm :). I appreciate your help! Cheers! |
Originally Posted by helosc
(Post 22674818)
72 hour ticket = 230 SEK
Valid for commuter trains, metro, busses and the small ferry to Skansen. You need to buy a plastic access card ( 20 SEK ) to load these tickets on. The tickets are also valid to and fro from the airport on the regular commuter trains ( NOT the Arlanda Express ). There is a passage supplement fee of 75 SEK to be paid on leaving and entering the airport. Everything can be bought in the airport at the counter for the commuter trains. Also, if we are arriving in Stockholm from Copenhagen via the SJ train, is it better to buy the SL card at the Centralstation from an electronic kiosk or a live person if we haven't exchanged to local currency yet? |
Originally Posted by silentbob1974
(Post 23621993)
Do my wife and I both need to buy one of the 20 SEK SL access cards, or can I use swipe the card multiple times for each of us to get through? I assume our 1 year-old son can ride free in any event (and not pay the 75 SEK supplement when we fly out of ARN).
Also, if we are arriving in Stockholm from Copenhagen via the SJ train, is it better to buy the SL card at the Centralstation from an electronic kiosk or a live person? Yes your child can ride for free and of course not pay the airport supplement either. I would suggest buying the card(s) from a manned office, then you are sure you get the right tickets and you can ask questions for example about one or two cards. I know the SL ( public transport in Stockholm ) office accept cards but I very much assume that the kiosks do as well. I hope you'll have a nice trip. |
I just looked at the SL webpage and nowhere do they mention that a card can be used for more than one person. So it would be one card per adult.
I saw that the cards themselves cannot be bought in the kiosks (ticket machines) you need to go to an office for that. http://sl.se/en/fares--tickets/ |
Originally Posted by helosc
(Post 23622116)
I just looked at the SL webpage and nowhere do they mention that a card can be used for more than one person. So it would be one card per adult.
I saw that the cards themselves cannot be bought in the kiosks (ticket machines) you need to go to an office for that. http://sl.se/en/fares--tickets/ |
There are 24 hour cards and 72 hour SL passes that are not plastic cards. They are paper cards with a small chip inside and they get activated automatically at first use. This doesn't require buying a plastic card at 20SEK or any other price, but it does involve buying these SL 24/72 hour passes from a staffed sales outlet. Tourist information offices seem to sell them.
It is one card per adult. Young children are free, but this may mean you have to go via a staff-controlled gate area to get in or otherwise be quick to clear the child and adult together at the automated gates. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 23622704)
It is one card per adult. Young children are free, but this may mean you have to go via a staff-controlled gate area to get in or otherwise be quick to clear the child and adult together at the automated gates.
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Originally Posted by tsastor
(Post 23625103)
Adults actually can use the same SL Access card as long as they travel together, use single group tickets and the manned gates. I recall I've borrowed my card to my daughter and she has used it together with her friend.
This is a quote from the link I posted earlier ( it is found under the heading ' visitor tickets - travelcards ' ). 'Travelcards are transferable and can be used by several travellers, but only one at a time' |
Originally Posted by tsastor
(Post 23625103)
Adults actually can use the same SL Access card as long as they travel together, use single group tickets and the manned gates. I recall I've borrowed my card to my daughter and she has used it together with her friend.
For the plastic SL Access card tickets and passes, it's a different story of sort and may come down to what is loaded on it. I haven't used group tickets on the SL system at any point since I started posting on FT, so can't speak to group tickets. On the topic of the 1-year-old, public transport on SL buses are mostly free for the child and even one accompanying adult if the child is in the stroller. Even as a local resident of sort, this was news to me. This news came to me from a guy who used to drive SL buses as a summer job while in school; and I've had it independently verified that there is indeed something of the sort in operation in Stockholm. |
Originally Posted by helosc
(Post 23625264)
I am not so sure about this.
This is a quote from the link I posted earlier ( it is found under the heading ' visitor tickets - travelcards ' ). 'Travelcards are transferable and can be used by several travellers, but only one at a time' Resa i grupp med reskassan Du kan betala för flera personers biljetter med samma reskassa. Du kan själv skapa biljetten i biljettautomaterna som finns på tunnelbane- och pendeltågsstationerna, men du kan också få hjälp av spärrexpeditören. Reser du med buss eller tåg med konduktör är det personalen som skapar biljetten åt dig. Du kan även vända dig till ditt närmaste SL Center för att få hjälp med att skapa en gruppbiljett, men tänk på att biljetten börjar gälla i samma stund som du köper den. Blanda helt och reducerat pris Är det resenärer i olika åldrar i gruppen, alltså om det finns både de som reser till helt pris och till reducerat pris, går det bra att resa på samma gruppbiljett. Och det går att vara upp till 60 personer i gruppen, men tänk på att det finns begränsningar för hur mycket pengar du har på kortet. Hela gruppen = samma ställe Alla i gruppen måste resa till samma ställe. Det går inte att ha flera gruppbiljetter på samma kort. Välj spärrkiosken Automatspärrarna på tunnelbane- och pendeltågsstationerna kan inte räkna hur många personer som går igenom spärren på en gruppbiljett. Gå därför igenom den spärren vid spärrkiosken, som spärrexpeditören kan öppna manuellt http://sl.se/sv/info/biljetter/reskassan/gruppresa/ |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 22675286)
$550/night? I am just glad I never have to pay more than $110/night to stay in nearly comparable (but slightly lower level) Stockholm hotels. :eek:
And that includes a vast buffet breakfast. |
Swedish is fine for me.
So just to summon up : a) One card each for long term tickets (24/72 hours, 7 days). b) Possibility of sharing a card ( with a bit of trouble ) if you use the card to load money on ( as rejsekasse ) and only buy normal tickets ( single zone tickets ). c) 24/72 hours tickets can be bought without having the access plastic card (issued as a one time use paper/ cardboard ticket with a chip). I always find it to be much cheaper and much more convenient to have a long term ticket in Stockholm. |
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