Injured at Airbnb property
#16
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: A small town in North Georgia
Programs: DL Platinum Medallion, AA
Posts: 1,626
Not to minimize the OP’s injury, but sometimes an accident is just an accident. If there are no unsafe or hazardous conditions that should have been addressed, how does someone assign blame?
#17
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 113
If the OP fell down because leaking pipes weren't fixed, then he/she has a legitimate claim. If the OP fell because his/her children had a water-balloon fight and the floor was wet, then it's B/S.
#20
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: LAX
Programs: AA PLT / 2MM
Posts: 2,113
"Esq" in your name, so no unbiased opinion there! I admitted that without having additional information, it's hard to judge who's at fault. I'm just tired of people blaming others and cashing in when they shouldn't. And yes, this affects me directly because I have to pay higher insurance premiums for all of the frivolous lawsuits out there.
Your bias is the notion that the people not owning up to their mistakes are the injured people. It's just as frequent that insurance companies are not owning up to their insureds' mistakes. Insurance companies have no problem collecting premiums for years and years and do not "own up" when the time comes for them to pay out.
I'm not sure what this even means. If you're talking about from a safety perspective, the Airbnb owner has to adhere to exactly the same safety standard as a hotel owner, i.e., to not negligently cause injury to their guests.
#21
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: San Diego
Posts: 33
My daughter was injured in a Home Depot. The "adjuster" just kept giving me the run around and losing emails, etc. Then they would change adjusters and start over again. This is the American way - business crooks.
And if you don't have any permanently identifiable permanent injury, lawyers won't take your case.
It has been 4 years and not a dime from the "adjusters."
And if you don't have any permanently identifiable permanent injury, lawyers won't take your case.
It has been 4 years and not a dime from the "adjusters."
#22
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 781
To all those who sympathize with me: thank you.
To haters: you don't know what I am going thru'. I am in pain daily for months since the injury. This isn't fair and it's not my fault.
The adjuster just harasses me. This guy does not understand the law very well and throws out legal terms to intimate me. Fortunately, I am quite familiar with basic personal injury law. As mentioned above, insurance companies of all types collect premiums, but pay out nothing when they are obligated to.
To haters: you don't know what I am going thru'. I am in pain daily for months since the injury. This isn't fair and it's not my fault.
The adjuster just harasses me. This guy does not understand the law very well and throws out legal terms to intimate me. Fortunately, I am quite familiar with basic personal injury law. As mentioned above, insurance companies of all types collect premiums, but pay out nothing when they are obligated to.
#23
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
There is no legal requirement that you deal with the adjuster at all.
You could simply file a lawsuit and never talk with the adjuster.
If you have an amount in mind which would settle the matter for you, give that to the adjuster, tell him he has X days to get you a check and that you are filing on the X+1 day. If you have an email, put it in an email and advise that you don't want to speak.
Only do this if you are certain that there is liability and that you really will file. Nothing looks weaker in a negotiation than a threat not carried through.
You could simply file a lawsuit and never talk with the adjuster.
If you have an amount in mind which would settle the matter for you, give that to the adjuster, tell him he has X days to get you a check and that you are filing on the X+1 day. If you have an email, put it in an email and advise that you don't want to speak.
Only do this if you are certain that there is liability and that you really will file. Nothing looks weaker in a negotiation than a threat not carried through.
#24
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: LAX
Programs: AA PLT / 2MM
Posts: 2,113
There is no legal requirement that you deal with the adjuster at all.
You could simply file a lawsuit and never talk with the adjuster.
If you have an amount in mind which would settle the matter for you, give that to the adjuster, tell him he has X days to get you a check and that you are filing on the X+1 day. If you have an email, put it in an email and advise that you don't want to speak.
Only do this if you are certain that there is liability and that you really will file. Nothing looks weaker in a negotiation than a threat not carried through.
You could simply file a lawsuit and never talk with the adjuster.
If you have an amount in mind which would settle the matter for you, give that to the adjuster, tell him he has X days to get you a check and that you are filing on the X+1 day. If you have an email, put it in an email and advise that you don't want to speak.
Only do this if you are certain that there is liability and that you really will file. Nothing looks weaker in a negotiation than a threat not carried through.
My daughter was injured in a Home Depot. The "adjuster" just kept giving me the run around and losing emails, etc. Then they would change adjusters and start over again. This is the American way - business crooks.
And if you don't have any permanently identifiable permanent injury, lawyers won't take your case.
It has been 4 years and not a dime from the "adjusters."
And if you don't have any permanently identifiable permanent injury, lawyers won't take your case.
It has been 4 years and not a dime from the "adjusters."
#25
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 113
I'm not an insurance company apologist, but this statement is what helped me make a judgement in your case. Call me a hater all day long, but you clearly understand that 1) you would probably lose at a trial, and 2) are asking how you can "maximize" your settlement instead of asking how you can get fairly compensated. This is my last reply in this ridiculous thread.
#26
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: LAX
Programs: AA PLT / 2MM
Posts: 2,113
I'm not an insurance company apologist, but this statement is what helped me make a judgement in your case. Call me a hater all day long, but you clearly understand that 1) you would probably lose at a trial, and 2) are asking how you can "maximize" your settlement instead of asking how you can get fairly compensated. This is my last reply in this ridiculous thread.
#27
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: United Kingdom
Programs: Bonvoy LTTitanium, BAEC Silver
Posts: 591
To all those who sympathize with me: thank you.
To haters: you don't know what I am going thru'. I am in pain daily for months since the injury. This isn't fair and it's not my fault.
The adjuster just harasses me. This guy does not understand the law very well and throws out legal terms to intimate me. Fortunately, I am quite familiar with basic personal injury law. As mentioned above, insurance companies of all types collect premiums, but pay out nothing when they are obligated to.
To haters: you don't know what I am going thru'. I am in pain daily for months since the injury. This isn't fair and it's not my fault.
The adjuster just harasses me. This guy does not understand the law very well and throws out legal terms to intimate me. Fortunately, I am quite familiar with basic personal injury law. As mentioned above, insurance companies of all types collect premiums, but pay out nothing when they are obligated to.
#28
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 781
What I meant by muscular is actually "soft tissues", meaning no bone injuries. However, just because no bones are broken doesn't mean there's no pain beyond days/weeks. For example, I was rear-ended and had my spine x-rayed. The x-rays showed nothing, but I have had back pain for years since the accident. Ditto for a concussion (MRI negative)--tension headaches for 2 years.
To clarify: having a court case that most likely doesn't end up in trial does not equate that I will lose. The vast majority of personal injury and property damage cases are settled. A good example is Dr Dao vs United Airlines. A lawsuit was filed for this highly publicized incident, but it was settled.
To clarify: having a court case that most likely doesn't end up in trial does not equate that I will lose. The vast majority of personal injury and property damage cases are settled. A good example is Dr Dao vs United Airlines. A lawsuit was filed for this highly publicized incident, but it was settled.
#29
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,254
To answer the OPs original question. Hiring an attorney is probably your best course of action. If your injuries are real and significant you may find an attorney who will take it on a contingency basis. If not a demand letter from an attorney and possibly even filing a law suit may result in a settlement larger then you'd get on your own. Hopefully enough larger to cover an hourly fee.
#30
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 781
Settlement amount = expenses x multiplier. I have incurred quite a lot of medical expenses and would like to pick your brains on your prior experience, if any. The bloody adjuster sounds like he works for a collection agency. Rude, harassing, and throws out random legal terms to intimidate me.