JFK terminal 4 access with terminal 8 boarding pass
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JFK terminal 4 access with terminal 8 boarding pass
I'm landing into terminal 8 at JFK and have around seven hours layover. If I can't make it into Manhattan I could potentially use the Oasis Lounge with my Diners Club card, however I'm not sure if I can even reach it since I will have a boarding pass for my onward flight out of terminal 8. So my question is, can I get airside in terminal 4 with a terminal 8 boarding pass?
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I'm landing into terminal 8 at JFK and have around seven hours layover. If I can't make it into Manhattan I could potentially use the Oasis Lounge with my Diners Club card, however I'm not sure if I can even reach it since I will have a boarding pass for my onward flight out of terminal 8. So my question is, can I get airside in terminal 4 with a terminal 8 boarding pass?
Doesn't get good reviews though. I would just fork over the money and go to the Admirals Club(s) in T-8 rather than having to take the train to T4, then back, and have to reclear security.
As with everything, YMMV.
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From what I am reading on the web this lounge is landside.
Doesn't get good reviews though. I would just fork over the money and go to the Admirals Club(s) in T-8 rather than having to take the train to T4, then back, and have to reclear security.
As with everything, YMMV.
Doesn't get good reviews though. I would just fork over the money and go to the Admirals Club(s) in T-8 rather than having to take the train to T4, then back, and have to reclear security.
As with everything, YMMV.
Personally, I wouldn't spend the money to access the AC, but then again, I think lounge day passes (and even memberships) are ridiculously overpriced for what you get. If the domestic clubs were like even overseas business lounges, then maybe they'd be worth the ~$50 admission fees (but even then, it'd be a stretch), but with the lack of anything edible/drinkable for free and what they charge for food and drinks in the domestic clubs, I often skip them even though I can get in them for free. Take your $50, put half of it back in your wallet, and grab a seat at a restaurant or bar.
I visited the new Oasis lounge on a recent Copa departure and don't think it's all that bad at all--certainly better than the mainline U.S. airline domestic clubs. They have reasonable drinks and snacks that are at least edible (little sandwich wraps and things). The trouble is how to get behind security at T4....at least with DL flying domestic flights out of T4 now, you can book a fake, refundable domestic DL ticket to get through security and then cancel it, but that's not something you want to do regularly. Supposedly TSA's official policy (it's somewhere in writing on FlyerTalk) is that any ticket is valid for any terminal at a given airport, so conceivably, you should be able to get through the T4 checkpoint with your T8 BP and TSA won't try to stop you (other than advising you you're probably in the wrong place), but I haven't tested that myself yet to confirm.
That said, seven hours is more than enough to head into the city and is certainly a better option than sitting in a lounge for that length of time (and definitely a better option than paying $50 to sit in a mediocre lounge for that length of time). Even if you're a cheapskate like me and take the long way into the city (an hour or so by subway), you can still enjoy 3-4 hours of sightseeing with time to spare.
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I was there in May 2013, and I think T4 had *just* been reopened (IIRC, the new T4 DL SkyClub with the outdoor deck had just been opened a few days before my departure or something). Not sure at which point the Oasis lounge was moved post-security, but I suspect it happened around the same time as all the DL renovations were going on.
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It was landside, but with the redevelopment of T4, it's now airside.
Personally, I wouldn't spend the money to access the AC, but then again, I think lounge day passes (and even memberships) are ridiculously overpriced for what you get. If the domestic clubs were like even overseas business lounges, then maybe they'd be worth the ~$50 admission fees (but even then, it'd be a stretch), but with the lack of anything edible/drinkable for free and what they charge for food and drinks in the domestic clubs, I often skip them even though I can get in them for free. Take your $50, put half of it back in your wallet, and grab a seat at a restaurant or bar.
I visited the new Oasis lounge on a recent Copa departure and don't think it's all that bad at all--certainly better than the mainline U.S. airline domestic clubs. They have reasonable drinks and snacks that are at least edible (little sandwich wraps and things). The trouble is how to get behind security at T4....at least with DL flying domestic flights out of T4 now, you can book a fake, refundable domestic DL ticket to get through security and then cancel it, but that's not something you want to do regularly. Supposedly TSA's official policy (it's somewhere in writing on FlyerTalk) is that any ticket is valid for any terminal at a given airport, so conceivably, you should be able to get through the T4 checkpoint with your T8 BP and TSA won't try to stop you (other than advising you you're probably in the wrong place), but I haven't tested that myself yet to confirm.
That said, seven hours is more than enough to head into the city and is certainly a better option than sitting in a lounge for that length of time (and definitely a better option than paying $50 to sit in a mediocre lounge for that length of time). Even if you're a cheapskate like me and take the long way into the city (an hour or so by subway), you can still enjoy 3-4 hours of sightseeing with time to spare.
Personally, I wouldn't spend the money to access the AC, but then again, I think lounge day passes (and even memberships) are ridiculously overpriced for what you get. If the domestic clubs were like even overseas business lounges, then maybe they'd be worth the ~$50 admission fees (but even then, it'd be a stretch), but with the lack of anything edible/drinkable for free and what they charge for food and drinks in the domestic clubs, I often skip them even though I can get in them for free. Take your $50, put half of it back in your wallet, and grab a seat at a restaurant or bar.
I visited the new Oasis lounge on a recent Copa departure and don't think it's all that bad at all--certainly better than the mainline U.S. airline domestic clubs. They have reasonable drinks and snacks that are at least edible (little sandwich wraps and things). The trouble is how to get behind security at T4....at least with DL flying domestic flights out of T4 now, you can book a fake, refundable domestic DL ticket to get through security and then cancel it, but that's not something you want to do regularly. Supposedly TSA's official policy (it's somewhere in writing on FlyerTalk) is that any ticket is valid for any terminal at a given airport, so conceivably, you should be able to get through the T4 checkpoint with your T8 BP and TSA won't try to stop you (other than advising you you're probably in the wrong place), but I haven't tested that myself yet to confirm.
That said, seven hours is more than enough to head into the city and is certainly a better option than sitting in a lounge for that length of time (and definitely a better option than paying $50 to sit in a mediocre lounge for that length of time). Even if you're a cheapskate like me and take the long way into the city (an hour or so by subway), you can still enjoy 3-4 hours of sightseeing with time to spare.
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Has anyone had success accessing Terminal 4 recently with a different terminal boarding pass? I used to go to the Swiss Airlines (*G) lounge when flying United, but it looks a lot more difficult ever since DL played around with the configuration.
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Has anyone had experience recently regarding this? I will be flying AA (assuming terminal 8), but would like to access the Wingtips Lounge. Thanks.
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...a blast from the past.
I did this last fall with a 6 hour layover. Went into Manhattan and met up with an FTer for a late lunch- rooftop pizza & wine... was epic!
I did have to pay close attention to the time, as delays can occur on the subway.
Since this is about NYC, we're going to relocate the post.
~beckoa, co-moderator Information Desk
I did this last fall with a 6 hour layover. Went into Manhattan and met up with an FTer for a late lunch- rooftop pizza & wine... was epic!
I did have to pay close attention to the time, as delays can occur on the subway.
Since this is about NYC, we're going to relocate the post.
~beckoa, co-moderator Information Desk
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Note that Wingtips seems to now be restricting admission during certain hours for those with "network" cards (presumably as opposed to airline invitations).
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From what I know there is no similar policy to what LAX has, enter any terminal with any same-day boarding pass. The TSA-agent will probably tell you that you are in the wrong terminal. You could try telling them that it shouldn't make a difference.
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YMMV, but I had no issue getting pass JFK Terminal 4 TSA with my AA Terminal 8 boarding pass. Also I entered the WingTips Lounge with Priority Pass without any problem. There were only 7 other passengers in the lounge at the time.
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It has been confirmed by TSA sources that TSA has no policy restricting terminal access by departure terminal. At any airport in the US, you may access any terminal with a same-day boarding pass for that airport.