Why the <bleep> do they give you two keys?
Why the <bleep> do they give you two keys?
May 22, 2007, 8:50 pm
#2
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The reason is simple. When the lease is up they go to auction. Dealers will be more likely to buy them with 2 keys and remotes. Keys these days are 100 to 500 bucks plus remotes if they arent integrated into the keys. National was to pay for those keys when the lease is up as well.
Used to work for Ford and right on the windshield at auction it will say how many keys and remotes the car has.
Plus it takes man hours to program the new ones and UAW work isnt free. It is 100 bucks an hour. So dealers will have to add at least 200 on to the car just for the car to have two keys.
We had the come up over in the Hertz forum as well if you would like some more answers.
Used to work for Ford and right on the windshield at auction it will say how many keys and remotes the car has.
Plus it takes man hours to program the new ones and UAW work isnt free. It is 100 bucks an hour. So dealers will have to add at least 200 on to the car just for the car to have two keys.
We had the come up over in the Hertz forum as well if you would like some more answers.
May 23, 2007, 1:29 am
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Yea, Hertz does the same crap. I always end up with 2 or 3 keys plus a remote that can't be seperated, so when I go out at night I have this huge bulge in one pocket unless I can find valet parking (just so I can ditch the keys)
HINT: Hertz and National... keep the spare keys locked up somewhere in the office, your customers will appreciate it.
HINT: Hertz and National... keep the spare keys locked up somewhere in the office, your customers will appreciate it.
May 23, 2007, 7:44 am
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They cant store them somewhere. How many cars do these companies have? They are coming and going every day and going who knows where when people rent them.
Cars and keys would be everywhere around the US. And if they had a centralized location the shipping to send the keys to and fro would cast a lot of money and people and computers to keep up with them cost money too.
It is not a big enough deal to them or us really.
Cars and keys would be everywhere around the US. And if they had a centralized location the shipping to send the keys to and fro would cast a lot of money and people and computers to keep up with them cost money too.
It is not a big enough deal to them or us really.
May 23, 2007, 8:48 am
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May 23, 2007, 4:04 pm
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Yep valet keys are dumb. Still it will never happen. It is done for monetary reasons. They are will to make you mad over it not to have to pay the manufacturers back money on the lease for lost keys.
Just cut the thing if it bothers you guys that much and when you return say it broke or put it on a standard king of your own.
They wount say much...
Just cut the thing if it bothers you guys that much and when you return say it broke or put it on a standard king of your own.
They wount say much...
May 23, 2007, 7:22 pm
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[QUOTE=DWilliamson5002]They cant store them somewhere. .. would cast a lot of money and people and computers to keep up with them cost money too.
Think maybe it's safe to assume they have a way to keep track of all those vehicle titles ??
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Think maybe it's safe to assume they have a way to keep track of all those vehicle titles ??
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May 23, 2007, 7:28 pm
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May 25, 2007, 4:47 am
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At some locations, I found that I will get one key. After having a flat tire once, I discovered the other key(s) were lying right next to the spare tire in the stowaway. I thought this was a good idea. At least this keeps the keys with the vehicle. Also, who knows what fury is brought upon one's self if you call the rental agency and tell them that you've misplaced all three keys!
May 25, 2007, 5:31 am
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At some locations, I found that I will get one key. After having a flat tire once, I discovered the other key(s) were lying right next to the spare tire in the stowaway. I thought this was a good idea. At least this keeps the keys with the vehicle. Also, who knows what fury is brought upon one's self if you call the rental agency and tell them that you've misplaced all three keys!
May 25, 2007, 6:04 am
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I don't find rental car key sets to be any larger than what I normally carry around.
May 25, 2007, 1:28 pm
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At some locations, I found that I will get one key. After having a flat tire once, I discovered the other key(s) were lying right next to the spare tire in the stowaway. I thought this was a good idea. At least this keeps the keys with the vehicle. Also, who knows what fury is brought upon one's self if you call the rental agency and tell them that you've misplaced all three keys!
It is gone just like that. It is a great idea isnt it. I am sure a legal battle will insue from you and the rental company to whose fault it is and then in the mean time you dont have a car...
May 27, 2007, 12:42 am
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I've really never thought about cutting them before. I think small wire cutters are ok for TSA... I'll check that out and take some next time.