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rj_flyer Jun 15, 2023 7:00 am

Huge devaluation by corporate programs
 
Not sure if others are also seeing this, our corporate program personal codes have been almost devalued completely to the point of being worthless. I am currently employed at a very large consulting firm, National code starting with XZ for those of you who would like to check prices themselves.

A car used to run me $34/day for the mid size/Executive aisle. Now with the devaluation a midsize is $96.30+tax per day. What's even more insane that WITHOUT the corporate discount the midsize is $87/day.

Now, for some reason my former employer is still the default profile which comes up whenever I try to make a reservation. I guess I will have to start claiming ignorance...

dwbf11 Jun 15, 2023 7:20 am

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but this isn't exactly late breaking. Rates have been going up for the past many years, and many companies (sounds like yours included) were not able to negotiate more favorable rates - whether due to decreased travel over the past few years or whatever.

Also, you shouldn't use discount codes to which you aren't entitled.

rj_flyer Jun 15, 2023 7:27 am


Originally Posted by dwbf11 (Post 35334181)
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but this isn't exactly late breaking. Rates have been going up for the past many years, and many companies (sounds like yours included) were not able to negotiate more favorable rates - whether due to decreased travel over the past few years or whatever.

Also, you shouldn't use discount codes to which you aren't entitled.

My company must be late to the party, the personal discount code was (as of a month ago when I booked a reservation for November) still showing the very favorable employee rates. Yes, they have basically cut travel to levels never seen and have openly said they are not going back to a travel first mindset. National must have said if the business isn't on the business use side, personal use codes won't be great either.

What I however can't understand is that the code is now at a higher rate than simply making a reservation under my EE account.

blufish312 Jun 15, 2023 10:12 am


Originally Posted by rj_flyer (Post 35334203)
My company must be late to the party, the personal discount code was (as of a month ago when I booked a reservation for November) still showing the very favorable employee rates. Yes, they have basically cut travel to levels never seen and have openly said they are not going back to a travel first mindset. National must have said if the business isn't on the business use side, personal use codes won't be great either.

What I however can't understand is that the code is now at a higher rate than simply making a reservation under my EE account.

I don't think you're that late to the party - my corporate rates have been the same for years up until about 2 months ago, now rates are anywhere from 25-40% more than they had been (what was 41 a day is now 54). It's my understanding that the rates are negotiated on a yearly basis so you would notice the increase 12mo after the original negotiated rate.

TXJeepGuy Jun 15, 2023 1:59 pm


Originally Posted by rj_flyer (Post 35334148)
Not sure if others are also seeing this, our corporate program personal codes have been almost devalued completely to the point of being worthless. I am currently employed at a very large consulting firm, National code starting with XZ for those of you who would like to check prices themselves.

A car used to run me $34/day for the mid size/Executive aisle. Now with the devaluation a midsize is $96.30+tax per day. What's even more insane that WITHOUT the corporate discount the midsize is $87/day.

Now, for some reason my former employer is still the default profile which comes up whenever I try to make a reservation. I guess I will have to start claiming ignorance...

I had that issue with a former employer's code. Had to reach out via email and get them to remove it.

Ragnarok Jun 15, 2023 5:34 pm


Originally Posted by rj_flyer (Post 35334148)
A car used to run me $34/day for the mid size/Executive aisle. Now with the devaluation a midsize is $96.30+tax per day. What's even more insane that WITHOUT the corporate discount the midsize is $87/day.

OP, This may be relevant: Charged over 2X reserved rate - Page 2 - FlyerTalk Forums

Are you booking directly with National using the existing corporate code? Try booking via Concur (or whichever tool your company use).

ChevyCruze Jun 17, 2023 1:30 pm

For reference, my company's corporate rate (public accounting firm) is still $32/day for business or $55.91 for corporate-personal rate.

noah Jun 17, 2023 5:55 pm

Yup, corporate rates with National increased to so much higher than our corp rates with Hertz and Avis I don't see any Emerald Aisles these days.

sullim4 Jun 19, 2023 9:11 pm

+1 on this. My employer (a tech behemoth) has a leisure rate with National, and it went through the roof at the beginning of this year. The "official travel" contract ID has remained at its usual price of $33.99/day for an intermediate at nearly any location across the US, including Hawaii. The leisure rate used to match this price; now it's well over $90/day for most locations and usually higher than the "rack" rate with no contract ID.

The corresponding leisure rates with Avis and Hertz have not increased at all. It makes me wonder if National has simply stopped offering leisure discounts as contracts with their customers renew.

It's disappointing as National is just so much better than the other two... but definitely not 60 bucks better.

MASTERNC Jun 22, 2023 1:41 pm

I've found our corporate rate is comparable to the AMEX Platinum rate that is attached to my profile.

seawolf Jun 24, 2023 8:55 pm

This (corporate leisure code offering little/no discount) has happened on other corporate contracts years ago pre covid (was discussed on FT). Sounds like maybe your corporate contract just came up for renewal and got the same treatment as other corporations.

National used to be my 1st choice but now I booked one with Hertz and another with National and only go with Nationals higher rates if something spectacular is available sitting in the Aisle.

mgxplyr Jun 26, 2023 2:41 pm

Yep, it's true. The personal use code I was using, which started with XZ, went from $48/day for midsize at a local airport to $112/day, higher than the rate without any code. Bizarre. Luckily I have a Hertz personal use code which is at $60, so I guess it's time to switch.

zoneflyer Jun 26, 2023 11:47 pm

Noticed my personal use code just now skyrocketed on the daily rate. I have an upcoming reservation in few days booked few months ago and just checked my account the rates are still the same when I booked. Do I need to be worried and start to make plan B? The price is still showing the lower corp rate but I don't want to be surprised of change of bill when I returned the car.

dect002 Jun 27, 2023 6:53 pm


Originally Posted by zoneflyer (Post 35365666)
Noticed my personal use code just now skyrocketed on the daily rate. I have an upcoming reservation in few days booked few months ago and just checked my account the rates are still the same when I booked. Do I need to be worried and start to make plan B? The price is still showing the lower corp rate but I don't want to be surprised of change of bill when I returned the car.

It happened to me before. My reservation online was showing the original rate and when i requested a receipt at the booth, it showed the much higher rate. Asked why was it so and was told that the rates for my corporate account was adjusted. Reversed and parked the car back and cancelled the reservation.

zoneflyer Jun 28, 2023 12:08 am


Originally Posted by dect002 (Post 35368252)
It happened to me before. My reservation online was showing the original rate and when i requested a receipt at the booth, it showed the much higher rate. Asked why was it so and was told that the rates for my corporate account was adjusted. Reversed and parked the car back and cancelled the reservation.

Thanks for the DP. Cancelled and rebooked, not risking additional hassle.


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