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FrequentMilesManiac Jan 11, 2005 9:22 pm

Anybody needs a referral?
 
I've been using BankDirect for 6 months and am very happy with them esp. the ATM fee refund up to 4 times a month. Absolutely love it and don't need to find an ATM locator as long as it belongs to one of the networks that BankDirect is with.

I can refer somebody if u send me an email.

Thanks,
FMM

KWCurtis Jan 12, 2005 12:15 am

I'm looking for a referral to bankdirect too.

If interested, please send me your referring address.

Thanks for the help. I'm new to this...

LRD Jan 12, 2005 6:30 am


Originally Posted by KWCurtis
I'm looking for a referral to bankdirect too.

If interested, please send me your referring address.

Thanks for the help. I'm new to this...

You got PM !!

bobob Jan 12, 2005 9:42 am


Originally Posted by FrequentMilesManiac
I've been using BankDirect for 6 months and am very happy with them esp. the ATM fee refund up to 4 times a month. Absolutely love it and don't need to find an ATM locator as long as it belongs to one of the networks that BankDirect is with.

I can refer somebody if u send me an email.

Thanks,
FMM


fyi, you can use any ATM you want. There is no BankDirect network you have to locate.

Anyway, I also echo all the positives about BankDirect. Great customer service and miles post promptly.

LRD Jan 12, 2005 9:58 am

UFB? Nope!
 
While I am happy with BankDirect, my experience with UFB Direct has not been as positive. It may be fine to park some money ($1,500 for no-fee checking) and establish direct deposit to get the AA bonus miles, but I wouldn't use it for my primary checking account.

sufm Jan 13, 2005 9:42 am

Would anyone like to refer me for joining BankDirect ?

So we both each can earn 1000 bonus AA miles. Thanks.

LRD Jan 13, 2005 5:07 pm


Originally Posted by sufm
Would anyone like to refer me for joining BankDirect ?

So we both each can earn 1000 bonus AA miles. Thanks.

I'd be happy to.

I'll send you PM.

And, a hearty welcome to Flyertalk!

ehallison Jan 13, 2005 7:51 pm

also need a referral for Bankdirect...
 
Please PM me.

LRD Jan 14, 2005 5:44 am


Originally Posted by ehallison
Please PM me.

On the way!

MeLike2Travel Jan 14, 2005 10:15 am

I'd be happy to give a referral as well. Anyone else need one?

sufm Jan 16, 2005 12:00 pm

If you can, you can refer me to join ING Bank, Thanks.

kaig Jan 16, 2005 1:40 pm

You got mail.

RD57 Jan 17, 2005 3:29 pm

Need Referral
 
I need a referral for both ING and Bank Direct.
Please PM.
Thx.

MeLike2Travel Jan 17, 2005 5:05 pm

RD57, you got PM for BD

kaig Jan 17, 2005 7:53 pm

RD57, you got PM for ING ;)

kaig Jan 17, 2005 7:55 pm

ING referral
 
deleted...

Grasshopper Jan 18, 2005 5:42 am

Anyone else need an ING referral? ;)
PM me.

Also, check out EmigrantDirect.com. They're offering a 3.0% APY now. Might be a good "extra" acccount to have to complement your ING Direct account - they're both free, so why not? You can always 'bounce' your balances back and forth between the two, depending on who has the best rate...

- Sameer

sufm Jan 20, 2005 5:28 pm


Originally Posted by Grasshopper
Anyone else need an ING referral? ;)
PM me.

Also, check out EmigrantDirect.com. They're offering a 3.0% APY now. Might be a good "extra" acccount to have to complement your ING Direct account - they're both free, so why not? You can always 'bounce' your balances back and forth between the two, depending on who has the best rate...

- Sameer

Does this EmigrantDirect always offers a higher interest rate than ING Direct ?

EugeneV Jan 21, 2005 11:59 am


Originally Posted by sufm
Does this EmigrantDirect always offers a higher interest rate than ING Direct ?

EmigrantDirect is a new bank. They have been around just for a few weeks. Their B&M parent company, Emigrant Savings Bank, is 150 years old, but doesn't offer high rates.

sufm Jan 21, 2005 3:19 pm

Thank you very much for the informaiton.

sufm Jan 24, 2005 3:37 pm

Good news ! Virtual Bank is paying 2.60% for eMoney Market account under $10,000.

The rep said because they are trying to attract people to open a new account.



eMoney Market Rate APY* Minimum to Open
Under $10,000.00 2.57% 2.60% $100
$10,000.00 - $24,999.99 2.27% 2.30% $100
$25,000.00 - $49,999.99 2.27% 2.30% $100
$50,000.00 - $99,999.99 2.27% 2.30% $100
$100,000.00 and up 2.27% 2.30% $100

jenae Mar 11, 2005 10:43 am

I'm opening the BankDirect account. If anyone would like to refer me, please PM me. Thanks very much.

coachflyer Mar 11, 2005 11:02 am

Gary Steiger will be happy to refer you. Please go to his website

http://www.freefrequentflyermiles.com/index.htm

LRD Mar 11, 2005 11:47 am


Originally Posted by jenae
I'm opening the BankDirect account. If anyone would like to refer me, please PM me. Thanks very much.

You got PM.

gleff Mar 11, 2005 1:58 pm

Still a big fan of BankDirect, been with them since ~ July 03. :)

scotlass May 19, 2005 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by LRD
You got PM.

Could you refer me as well? I am new at this, so what is PM?

LRD May 19, 2005 1:28 pm


Originally Posted by scotlass
Could you refer me as well? I am new at this, so what is PM?

Be happy to.

You'll get PM shortly. (PM = private message. Just click on the MyFlyertalk link to view/manage your messages, folders, and subscriptions.)

MilesTalk May 19, 2005 3:43 pm

Is that Etrade/Delta offer still valid? I can't get past the first signup page....

ReneeMoss May 19, 2005 4:41 pm

fyi
 
I used the SPG Ameritrade offer - everything posted in a timely matter. I am about to transfer my accounts over to Waterhouse .... anyone use that offer for AA miles lately??

I also used the Citibank on-line checking account offer - it has expired and I cancelld after getting my miles posted.

Anything like that out there now?

I do not use direct deposit at all - I am looking for a goodly number of bonus miles or it won't pay me to bother with another account opening..........

Thanks for any suggestions. Renee

LRD May 19, 2005 4:47 pm


Originally Posted by ReneeMoss
I do not use direct deposit at all - I am looking for a goodly number of bonus miles or it won't pay me to bother with another account opening..........

UFB Direct offers some nice AA miles annually for their bill-pay service.

Link

desi May 19, 2005 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by 6779br
Has anyone really used any of the real estate and mortgage cos. like Lending Tree and Cendant to buy or sell a house? I understand that one should not be a slave to earning miles but it's hard not to believe that you couldn't get a better deal for financing a house purchase through a banker who is NOT affiliated with Lending Tree/Cendant et al. There's always a hidden cost built-in, right? Am I too cynical about this? I really want to earn more miles this way but am very suspicious...


One of the worst mistake one can do is to give personal info to Lending Tree!! Heard that they make more money in "selling" your info than in commissions in arranging loans!!

In general, in this internet-age, choose a mortgage broker who is internet/electronics savy (to keep his own cost down) but who is LOCAL to you. (Never get a mortgage on-line unless from a reputable company that you know) Mortgage broker who does not advertise and who does not participate in miles or any other gimmick will without a dobt will get you the best deal. SInce volume does not get you much in this industry, person with minimal cost can afford to give you best deal.

Ken in Phx May 20, 2005 1:22 am

Can someone tell me the benfit of using BankDirect? If I have 10k to invest in a MMA Bank Direct shows that their rate is .75%. INGDirect has a 3.0% rate.

Bank Direct
I would get (10k x .75% ) or $6.25/ month + 1,000 AA miles/mo

INGDirect
I would get (10k x 3%) or $25/ month + no miles

So the miles cost me .01875/mile? Is that a deal for AA miles?


Thx
Ken in Phx

Marathon Man May 20, 2005 2:19 am


Originally Posted by Ken in Phx
Can someone tell me the benfit of using BankDirect? If I have 10k to invest in a MMA Bank Direct shows that their rate is .75%. INGDirect has a 3.0% rate.

Bank Direct
I would get (10k x .75% ) or $6.25/ month + 1,000 AA miles/mo

INGDirect
I would get (10k x 3%) or $25/ month + no miles

So the miles cost me .01875/mile? Is that a deal for AA miles?


Thx
Ken in Phx

I have to agree with Ken here, but I do have soem questions for those who know a bit about how ING's 3% interest works.

If I leave, say, $10,000 in ING for a long time then yes, I can see a savings add up with interest. But if I keep taking it out and putting moeny in and taking out and putting new in, will this still help me gain interest? Or is it based on longevity? I mean, surely both do something, but do you make as much?

As I understand it, those who might be flipping funds around and putting enough into a Bank Direct account to satisfy the minimum balance requirements can do the above in and out scheme and still obtain their AA miles before having to use the money, and then add new funds. All you have to do is be careful with the timing and it will work.

So which is better? I am curious. I still think ING but I wanna hear from people on that too.

On another note, I once signed up for Lending Tree and started the whole process to earn DL miles. Later, about 3/4 the way into it I went with an entirely different lender but somehow, some way, I still got my 10k DL miles!

Cool. I guess if you don't mind your name being sold a bit more out there than it already is anyway, what, with everything else we do online, etc, then go into the process for the cost of a couple credit report points and then bail out 3/4 way thru and see if you also still get your miles! You might!

(a CC big-3 report hit from a place like Lending Tree will affect the score but only ever so slightly and fgrom what I understand, the good news is that they only hit you once, whereas multiple loan attempts you may do on your own could result in many more hits, thereby lowering your score)

:)MM

PG May 20, 2005 6:56 am


Originally Posted by Ken in Phx
Can someone tell me the benfit of using BankDirect? If I have 10k to invest in a MMA Bank Direct shows that their rate is .75%. INGDirect has a 3.0% rate.

Bank Direct
I would get (10k x .75% ) or $6.25/ month + 1,000 AA miles/mo

INGDirect
I would get (10k x 3%) or $25/ month + no miles

So the miles cost me .01875/mile? Is that a deal for AA miles?


Thx
Ken in Phx

You did not take taxes into account. Interest is taxed, miles are not. So the cost of miles will depend on how much federal, state and local taxes you have to pay. Assuming a 33% rate, miles would cost about 1.25 cents/mile.

OTPorBust May 20, 2005 8:59 am

There is more to it
 
Depending on what State you live in, the taxes could be a lot higher than 33%. Also depends on how you use the miles. Two first class tickets to Europe is a lot of interest, especially tax free. I have been with Bank Direct for a couple of years and combined with my Citibank M/C am about to make the million mile life time deal with American. How much is that worth? Don't know, but I am sure it is worth more than a couple of bucks I have to pay taxes on instead?

Ken in Phx May 20, 2005 9:14 am


Originally Posted by PG
You did not take taxes into account. Interest is taxed, miles are not. So the cost of miles will depend on how much federal, state and local taxes you have to pay. Assuming a 33% rate, miles would cost about 1.25 cents/mile.


TAXES TAXES TAXES. How quickly April comes and goes and I forget. I knew I was missing something. Thx

Ken in Phx

ExitRowAisle May 20, 2005 2:26 pm


Originally Posted by Marathon Man
I have to agree with Ken here, but I do have soem questions for those who know a bit about how ING's 3% interest works.

If I leave, say, $10,000 in ING for a long time then yes, I can see a savings add up with interest. But if I keep taking it out and putting moeny in and taking out and putting new in, will this still help me gain interest? Or is it based on longevity? I mean, surely both do something, but do you make as much?

As I understand it, those who might be flipping funds around and putting enough into a Bank Direct account to satisfy the minimum balance requirements can do the above in and out scheme and still obtain their AA miles before having to use the money, and then add new funds. All you have to do is be careful with the timing and it will work.

I'm not sure I completely understand what you are asking, but here it goes:

At ING, on $10,000, you should earn daily interest of $0.82 (10,000 x 3% / 365 days). If you don't withdraw the money, this daily interest should increase with compounding. If you withdraw it partially or completely, you only earn daily interest on your remaining deposited balance.

The comments above seem pretty straightforward -- so perhaps I have misunderstood your question about "gaining interest . . . based on longevity."

I've never invested in a bank that offers miles, but if their computations are based on average balances, you can't game the system by timing large deposits. Averaging will negate the timing effect. If the bank's computations are based on measurements on specific days (e.g., end of month), then theoretically, you could game the system by timing deposits and withdrawals. Someone else might be able to shed some further light on this subject.

pgary May 20, 2005 7:43 pm


Originally Posted by Ken in Phx
Can someone tell me the benfit of using BankDirect? If I have 10k to invest in a MMA Bank Direct shows that their rate is .75%. INGDirect has a 3.0% rate.

Bank Direct
I would get (10k x .75% ) or $6.25/ month + 1,000 AA miles/mo

INGDirect
I would get (10k x 3%) or $25/ month + no miles

So the miles cost me .01875/mile? Is that a deal for AA miles?


Thx
Ken in Phx

I show you the math on my writeup of the deal in the Banking Section of the Finance page of my website, Free Frequent Flyer Miles. First coment: You would never invest $10,000 in BankDirect. You would stay near the minimum of $2,500.

Marathon Man May 22, 2005 6:59 am


Originally Posted by ExitRowAisle
I'm not sure I completely understand what you are asking, but here it goes:

At ING, on $10,000, you should earn daily interest of $0.82 (10,000 x 3% / 365 days). If you don't withdraw the money, this daily interest should increase with compounding. If you withdraw it partially or completely, you only earn daily interest on your remaining deposited balance.

The comments above seem pretty straightforward -- so perhaps I have misunderstood your question about "gaining interest . . . based on longevity."

I've never invested in a bank that offers miles, but if their computations are based on average balances, you can't game the system by timing large deposits. Averaging will negate the timing effect. If the bank's computations are based on measurements on specific days (e.g., end of month), then theoretically, you could game the system by timing deposits and withdrawals. Someone else might be able to shed some further light on this subject.

I guess I thought leaving money in a bank longer somehow made it earn more but if I am to flip funds and can follow the advice of those who would just use say $2500, then I still have a bunch of change left over ($7500) to put into ING and get the best of both worlds!

thanks.
:)MM

Ken in Phx May 22, 2005 10:51 pm


Originally Posted by pgary
I show you the math on my writeup of the deal in the Banking Section of the Finance page of my website, Free Frequent Flyer Miles. First coment: You would never invest $10,000 in BankDirect. You would stay near the minimum of $2,500.

Gary what would be the point ot having the account at all if you just got 250 miles a month. $2,500 daily balance would yield 250 AA miles/mo. I would think someone looking to collect AA miles might want as much as 100k in that account. that would be 10k/miles a month and a free ticket biz classs after 1 yr. Am I on the correct path here. Why bother doing it if its only for 250 miles a month?

Ken in Phx


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