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sharmaintl Nov 9, 2008 4:13 pm

Never got an answer on my Turkish Airlines question. Does any one know if Turkish Airlines does a status match? Or Asiana or ANA? Thanks,

lucky9876coins Nov 9, 2008 7:05 pm


Originally Posted by sharmaintl (Post 10697396)
Never got an answer on my Turkish Airlines question. Does any one know if Turkish Airlines does a status match? Or Asiana or ANA? Thanks,

You probably didn't get an answer because no one knows.;) I would go with no, unless anyone has different experiences....

sammyh Nov 9, 2008 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins (Post 10599436)
British Midland

British Midland may be the only non-North American program with a regular status match program. These generally match up to Gold (top tier). Let's see how long that lasts given the possible takeover by LH.

Email or fax a copy of your elite card and most recent statement to:

More details can be found in this thread.

i matched beginning of last week CO Gold and got BMI Gold - think i got lucky (no pun in intended :D) ) and sneaked in last minute, as they just announced they are ceasing US flights..........makes no sense to match us now?!?

sharmaintl Nov 9, 2008 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by sammyh (Post 10699835)
i matched beginning of last week CO Gold and got BMI Gold - think i got lucky (no pun in intended :D) ) and sneaked in last minute, as they just announced they are ceasing US flights..........makes no sense to match us now?!?

When did you send your match request in? I emailed my request with my AA Plat details on Nov. 4th. Am still a Blue+ :confused:. How long before you got a response from them?

glenny84 Nov 9, 2008 10:05 pm


Originally Posted by sammyh (Post 10699835)
i matched beginning of last week CO Gold and got BMI Gold - think i got lucky (no pun in intended :D) ) and sneaked in last minute, as they just announced they are ceasing US flights..........makes no sense to match us now?!?

Wow, you did get lucky. I submitted my request the end of the week before, and have heard nothing yet. :( How long did it take you to get a response?

lucky9876coins Nov 9, 2008 10:07 pm


Originally Posted by sammyh (Post 10699835)
i matched beginning of last week CO Gold and got BMI Gold - think i got lucky (no pun in intended :D) ) and sneaked in last minute, as they just announced they are ceasing US flights..........makes no sense to match us now?!?

Thanks for the report. Just curious, what documentation did you send in for the status match?

sammyh Nov 9, 2008 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by sammyh (Post 10699835)
i matched beginning of last week CO Gold and got BMI Gold - think i got lucky (no pun in intended :D) ) and sneaked in last minute, as they just announced they are ceasing US flights..........makes no sense to match us now?!?

I will recheck the dates tomorrow from my office computer (sent it from there) but i think I got it within 2-3 days.

I emailed a screenshot of my account showing miles + status on CO; and accompanied an email with the blabber of flying with BMI to the UK in 09 etc.;)

gleff Nov 10, 2008 4:33 am

bmi didn't kill all transatlantic flights, just the ex-MAN ones IIRC. bmi has been flaky lately in matching, sometimes responding quickly and sometimes not at all. If you don't get the status upgrade in say 3 weeks I'd resubmit.

Fims Nov 10, 2008 6:40 am


Originally Posted by sharmaintl (Post 10646244)
Anyone know if Turkish airlines does status match? They have the lowest requal threshhold of all *A airlines

AFAIK, the don't. I asked some 2 years ago, while they were not *A members yet, but I travelled with them quite often, and they said no...

sammyh Nov 10, 2008 7:47 am


Originally Posted by sammyh (Post 10700000)
I will recheck the dates tomorrow from my office computer (sent it from there) but i think I got it within 2-3 days.

Email request sent on Friday 31/10 reply from BMI on Tuesday 11/4.

mh3265a Nov 10, 2008 8:53 am

Spoke with UAL reps and they stated the elite status match program had been discontinued "temporarily" and would like be re-started in early-2009. Has anyone else had a similar experience?

joker545 Nov 10, 2008 10:42 am

Yes, I did have a similar experience and am wondering how to respond.

So I sent United an e-mail in April to see if they'd match my Gold Status on NWA. I received a prompt e-mail response saying they would and to send a copy of my statement to them 7-10 days before I will begin flying with them and I'll then have 90 days to fly 15k to maintain the status.

Well.....I have a couple long-haul trips booked on UAL in the next month, so I e-mailed them PDF copies of the requested documents, and then received a reply the next day saying that status match requests ended on 10/31 and to contact them again in January. I e-mailed back seeing if they could still give me the challenge as there was no mention of a deadline in the previous e-mail, and I received a response that "it wasn't possible at this time." What gives?

Comments/insights appreciated. Anyone figured out a way around this?

FreqTrav27 Nov 10, 2008 11:54 am

So let me see if I have this correct...

I am GM on Delta/ST Elite...

I can ask CO to match my status and it will be for *A?

mh3265a Nov 10, 2008 2:47 pm

Continental will join the *A in 2009. However, a date is not set in stone. Some are reporting that it'll be late in 2009. My recommendation would be to hold off until next year or until their official entrance in the *A is clear.

cabrits Nov 10, 2008 11:35 pm

will anyone status match this late in the year? if so, how long will it be valid?
 
need some sage advice..

i am presently DL silver (expires 2/09), and will become AA 1MM gold in a couple of weeks. i have copious miles in each, but am nowhere near requalifying with ANY program.

a few questions:

1) how likely is it that any FF program will match me this late in the year? should i even bother?

2) even if someone does match, when is that newly minted status likely to expire?

3) given my present statuses, which program would it make the most sense to match into? my travels, due to the particular (sometimes remote) destinations and limited services to each, flight schedules, etc, have unwillingly been distributed accross a few carriers. i know the importance of trying to stick to just a carrier/team or two, but most of my trips have been last minute, and i did not have the luxury to always use the desired carrier/team.

thank you in advance for your collective valuable insight!

davidy Nov 11, 2008 5:28 am

El Al also will match status. Usually they match at a lower level (e.g. CO Plat to Matmid Gold) than one's current status with another carrier.

To apply for a match you must already have an El Al Matmid number. Fax a copy of your elite status card & the last two months of your FF account statements, showing flights and points to
El Al Airlines
Matmid Frequent Flyer Program
Fax # 011-972-3-760-4043

Once matched, you must requalify for status within 6 months.

lucky9876coins Nov 11, 2008 8:54 am

Thanks for the info, davidy! I've gone ahead and updated the OP.

cabrits, many airlines will match this late in the year, and for most airlines your status would be good through early 2010, so you'd get quite a bit of time. As for which program to match to, it's hard to answer that. It all depends on where you travel and what you're looking for.

cabrits Nov 11, 2008 9:00 am

thanks!
 
thanks lucky,

another quick question.. would i have a better chance of getting matched with DL silver? or AA 1MM gold?

do other programs not tend to match AA 1MM/2MM much?

thanks again!

lucky9876coins Nov 11, 2008 2:31 pm

I'm guessing that if you have any flying activity with AA at all, it would work for status matches as well, although I can't guarantee that. If it works it should be no different than matching with DL.

LiviLion Nov 11, 2008 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by EXLEFTSEAT (Post 10676824)
I was just matched by CO to PE from NW PE. Took just a couple of e-mails, copy of mileage statement and copy of WP card. Quick and painless. One satisfied customer, well, actually two including the wife^

Which email address did you use?

I'm doing a fair bit skyteam flying at the moment and with Air France's calender year rules I've no chance of getting enough sectors to get lounge access for ages.

If I could get CO Plat then that will get me in the lounges at CDG and FCO and give me time to actually retain the status.

Assuming they will match my 100+ sectors on bmi in the last 12 months.

fumitani Nov 11, 2008 10:34 pm

Lucky you can add that NH and JL does not status match. You must earn it the hard way as I did with flying!

glenny84 Nov 12, 2008 5:47 am


Originally Posted by glenny84 (Post 10699914)
Wow, you did get lucky. I submitted my request the end of the week before, and have heard nothing yet. :( How long did it take you to get a response?

I got my status match for BMI Gold today! Thanks to all for contributing info to this thread. :)

woody125 Nov 12, 2008 11:18 am

Aeroflot also does not status match. I've asked twice and have never even gotten responses from them. No word in Russian for it I guess?

lucky9876coins Nov 12, 2008 11:28 am

Updated, thanks.:)

sharmaintl Nov 13, 2008 1:57 pm

Asked for BD Status match and got it in exactly one week :D

hobo13 Nov 13, 2008 8:29 pm


Originally Posted by sharmaintl (Post 10669703)
One reason in the US is access to *A lounges. As a UA *G I only get access when on an international iten, that too only on my last port of exit in the US. With an non-US based *G card (BD or AC for example), I get lounge access even on domestic iten on UA or US (the airline) flights

Yes, that's true. But do you actually earn/maintain status on BMI *and* UA, or did you just status match to BMI? Because I certainly wouldn't trade 1K on UA, for being 1P on UA *and* Gold on BMI. In the most simplest sense, that seems to be trading 6 SWU's and lots of CR1's for domestic lounge access. Am I missing something? Now if you fly 150k a year and can get 1K *and* BMI gold, that's another matter. But from your profile, that doesn't seem to be the case.

hobo13 Nov 13, 2008 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by hobo13 (Post 10621964)
I'm considering doing the match to NW before they become NW/DL. I'm a 1K on UA with Silver Elite on NW (with no chance to requal this year, unless they graciously let me in at 20k).

My question is, will NW status match me to Plat for the upcoming year, despite the fact that I already have NW status at the time of the match?

I answered my own question, empirically.

Yes, NW matched my UA 1K status by granting me NW Plat through 2010. This does seem strange that they would do this, considering I was NW silver at the time. Maybe they are currently handing out status like candy..... if you're not going to exist in another year, what difference does it make? :D

lucky9876coins Nov 13, 2008 8:34 pm


Originally Posted by hobo13 (Post 10748739)
Yes, that's true. But do you actually earn/maintain status on BMI *and* UA, or did you just status match to BMI? Because I certainly wouldn't trade 1K on UA, for being 1P on UA *and* Gold on BMI. In the most simplest sense, that seems to be trading 6 SWU's and lots of CR1's for domestic lounge access. Am I missing something? Now if you fly 150k a year and can get 1K *and* BMI gold, that's another matter. But from your profile, that doesn't seem to be the case.

One strategy is to just get it for a year and it basically acts as a free RCC membership (only valid when traveling on a Star flight and you don't get free internet, but still). Otherwise one can try to maintain it, although I'm guessing after this year the BMI DC program won't be quite as lucrative as before.

Keep in mind that this may very well be the last opportunity to status match to BD, since things'll change when LH gets their hands on 'em.

Exleftseat Nov 13, 2008 8:46 pm


Originally Posted by hobo13 (Post 10748756)
I answered my own question, empirically.

Yes, NW matched my UA 1K status by granting me NW Plat through 2010. This does seem strange that they would do this, considering I was NW silver at the time. Maybe they are currently handing out status like candy..... if you're not going to exist in another year, what difference does it make? :D

Did they give you a new account #? In other words, do you think, they were away of your status?

hobo13 Nov 13, 2008 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by EXLEFTSEAT (Post 10748832)
Did they give you a new account #? In other words, do you think, they were away of your status?

Same account. When I login, it says Plat and all my miles show up. I gave them my WP number in the status match request. I guess they knew what they were doing..... still seems odd.

>>>>>

http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=888336

Some highlights (at least my take)
•We also have very different technology platforms, and have selected the NW loyalty platform as our ultimate base. As a result of this choice and these ultimate contract resolutions, the exact timing of integration in 2009 and how program benefits roll-out is still up in the air.


<<<<<<

Any reason to be concerned about this? What do they mean by saying that NW will be the base? The assumption all along has been that WP will go away making this a free match, but if they keep WP as the base, maybe not..... thoughts?

hobo13 Nov 13, 2008 8:59 pm


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins (Post 10748769)
One strategy is to just get it for a year and it basically acts as a free RCC membership (only valid when traveling on a Star flight and you don't get free internet, but still). Otherwise one can try to maintain it, although I'm guessing after this year the BMI DC program won't be quite as lucrative as before.

Keep in mind that this may very well be the last opportunity to status match to BD, since things'll change when LH gets their hands on 'em.

I agree with everything you say here Lucky. I was just pointing out that I don't think I would trade 1K for status in two *A airlines, which seemed to be the point of some other posters.

sharmaintl Nov 13, 2008 9:47 pm


Originally Posted by hobo13 (Post 10748739)
Yes, that's true. But do you actually earn/maintain status on BMI *and* UA, or did you just status match to BMI? Because I certainly wouldn't trade 1K on UA, for being 1P on UA *and* Gold on BMI. In the most simplest sense, that seems to be trading 6 SWU's and lots of CR1's for domestic lounge access. Am I missing something? Now if you fly 150k a year and can get 1K *and* BMI gold, that's another matter. But from your profile, that doesn't seem to be the case.

That is a dilemma I will be facing next year. I have ended up around 70k EQM on UA for the past two years. Too far from 1K and with no in-between status to shoot for - the choices rewards at 75k are a laugh. So, I am currently using the fact that BMI has a 12 month window and needs only 38k to re-qualify to my advantage. Once I got my status match (yup, I did get a match), I started pumping miles into BMI. The goal is to get as close to re-qualification by Dec. 31st. I know I will not hit 1K on UA this year and have already made 1P, so I have nothing to lose. Starting Jan 1st, my 1st goal is to re-qualify 1P on UA. And then decide, do I have a shot at 1K or should I put the balance of my miles on BMI. I will not know till I get there... I agree that if I have a legit shot at 1K, domestic lounge access is not a good enough reason to requalify gold on BMI. Heck, if I get to 1K, I will use 45k miles to buy RCC access :D

Clifford Laughton Nov 13, 2008 11:53 pm


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins (Post 10623298)
Welcome to FlyerTalk, Clifford Laughton!:)^

The way you outline would be the best way to go. Match to NW and that will eventually turn into Delta Plat. Now that they have an upgrade arrangement between DL/NW, it becomes even easier to reap the benefits of NW status on DL. Of course you still won't be earning 100% EQM on all fares for now, but that will change.

Thanks for your reply.

CL

sunil Nov 14, 2008 12:08 am

UA Status Match onhold for 2008 ?
 
I sent a status match request for a friend of mine to UA but was told the program is suspended for 2008 (effective Oct 31) and will resume in mid Jan. Anyone else have the same experience ?

lucky9876coins Nov 14, 2008 7:39 am


Originally Posted by sunil (Post 10749466)
I sent a status match request for a friend of mine to UA but was told the program is suspended for 2008 (effective Oct 31) and will resume in mid Jan. Anyone else have the same experience ?

Yes, several people have reported the same thing earlier in the thread. I'll go ahead and update the OP to reflect that.

mh3265a Nov 14, 2008 7:48 am

Yes. I've had a similar experience. Not sure why they are doing this. I'm wondering if anyone has any good insight.

notquiteaff Nov 14, 2008 11:54 am


Originally Posted by hobo13 (Post 10748902)
Any reason to be concerned about this? What do they mean by saying that NW will be the base? The assumption all along has been that WP will go away making this a free match, but if they keep WP as the base, maybe not..... thoughts?

Great question, given that I just faxed in my request to NW. :confused:

Then again, holding out forever on status matches might not be all that different from hoarding miles... devaluation might make the same status later on less valuable. In other words, if NW granting me 1+ years of Plat means I can not match again with TheNewDelta later on, it's not the end of the world for me and I am not going to worry about it now.

GVA Nov 14, 2008 12:09 pm


Originally Posted by hobo13 (Post 10748756)
I answered my own question, empirically.

Yes, NW matched my UA 1K status by granting me NW Plat through 2010. This does seem strange that they would do this, considering I was NW silver at the time. Maybe they are currently handing out status like candy..... if you're not going to exist in another year, what difference does it make? :D

How long did it take you to get matched?

hobo13 Nov 14, 2008 12:49 pm


Originally Posted by GVA (Post 10751879)
How long did it take you to get matched?

About a week. Similar response from NW was reported by Lucky on his blog.

hobo13 Nov 14, 2008 12:53 pm


Originally Posted by notquiteaff (Post 10751807)
Great question, given that I just faxed in my request to NW. :confused:

Then again, holding out forever on status matches might not be all that different from hoarding miles... devaluation might make the same status later on less valuable. In other words, if NW granting me 1+ years of Plat means I can not match again with TheNewDelta later on, it's not the end of the world for me and I am not going to worry about it now.

I don't disagree. I'm not going to worry about it. In the (future) worst case, we can always plead ignorance, saying that we matched to NW which is obviously now defunct, and that this should have nothing to do with DL.

That said, I wouldn't have done this otherwise, as I doubt I'll fly SkyTeam more than 2 or 3 times next year.....


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