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A MR to Baghdad?
Any time now...
WASHINGTON — The Transportation Department (search) cleared U.S. passenger and cargo airlines on Friday to resume service to Iraq after sanctions prohibited those operations for nearly 13 years. |
A lot has changed in 13 years. With the demise of PanAm and TWA as well as the advent of global alliances, I really can't imagine a US carrier adding Baghdad to their schedule. AFAIK, UA airlines don't even fly to CAI or IST with their own metal.
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At least several months ago, DL flew JFK-IST non-stop.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by chalf: At least several months ago, DL flew JFK-IST non-stop.</font> |
At least BA and Virgin see the Baghdad route as a likely cash cow, at least for the duration of the western-led rebuilding effort. One would think that the same logic would apply even more for nonstop US flights to Baghdad.
Then again, perhaps all the Halliburton execs get to travel on Air Force One... |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Markonen: At least BA and Virgin see the Baghdad route as a likely cash cow, at least for the duration of the western-led rebuilding effort. One would think that the same logic would apply even more for nonstop US flights to Baghdad.</font> |
As discussed in this thread, NW & KL applied to the U.S. DOT for permission to fly DTW-AMS-BGW.
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Northwest files application to fly to Iraq Thursday, May 8, 2003 BY KARREN MILLS ASSOCIATED PRESS EAGAN, Minn. -- Northwest Airlines has asked the U.S. Department of Transportation for permission to begin flying from Detroit to Iraq, with a stop in Amsterdam. Northwest spokesman Bill Mellon said Thursday that, if approved, the frequency of the flights would depend on demand. Northwest would serve the route with DC-10 aircraft, he said. KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, Northwest's alliance partner, also has applied for permission to fly into Baghdad, Mellon said. If both carriers are granted permission, he said Northwest and KLM would discuss how to best serve the market.</font> |
AMS-BGW makes sense. Feeding AMS-BGW from DTW also makes sense. NW operated DTW-AMS-BGW makes sense especially if the AMS-BGW segment also carries the KL code. However, a KL operated AMS-BGW segment carrying the NW code would make even more sense and this is what I expect if both carriers receive permission to operate the route.
A hypothetical DTW-BGW nonstop would, IMO, make no sense. [Edited for clarity.] [This message has been edited by zvezda (edited 05-31-2003).] |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by zvezda: AMS-BGW makes sense. Feeding AMS-BGW from DTW also makes sense. NW operated DTW-AMS-BGW makes sense especially if the AMS-BGW segment also carries the KL code. However, a KL operated AMS-BGW segment carrying the NW code would make even more sense and this is what I expect if both carriers receive permission to operate the route. A hypothetical DTW-BGW nonstop would, IMO, make no sense. [Edited for clarity.] [This message has been edited by zvezda (edited 05-31-2003).]</font> |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by zvezda: A hypothetical DTW-BGW nonstop would, IMO, make no sense. [Edited for clarity.] [This message has been edited by zvezda (edited 05-31-2003).]</font> However, with the NW/KL hub in Amsterdam, it would only make sense for the flights to stop there to pick up additional passengers which may of originated at other NW/KL gateway cities (BOS, SEA, MEM, MSP, EWR, LAX, SFO, MEX, YYZ, etc) so that pax could connect onto BGW. Lastly, I'm not sure if the DC10-30 would have the range to do DTW-BGW with a full load of pax and cargo. In addition to pax, I suspect there will be a heavy demand for cargo services into BGW as the country re-builds. Best, SDF_Traveler ------------------ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by SDF_Traveler: The Detroit area actually has the largest Iraqi exile population in the United States. However, with the NW/KL hub in Amsterdam, it would only make sense for the flights to stop there to pick up additional passengers which may of originated at other NW/KL gateway cities (BOS, SEA, MEM, MSP, EWR, LAX, SFO, MEX, YYZ, etc) so that pax could connect onto BGW. Lastly, I'm not sure if the DC10-30 would have the range to do DTW-BGW with a full load of pax and cargo. In addition to pax, I suspect there will be a heavy demand for cargo services into BGW as the country re-builds. Best, SDF_Traveler </font> |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by SDF_Traveler: However, with the NW/KL hub in Amsterdam, it would only make sense for the flights to stop there to pick up additional passengers which may of originated at other NW/KL gateway cities (BOS, SEA, MEM, MSP, EWR, LAX, SFO, MEX, YYZ, etc) so that pax could connect onto BGW. </font> |
One question: WHY?
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Why what?
------------------ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin |
If your asking why back, then I guess I'm the crazy one.
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