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Marathon Man Nov 26, 2002 4:05 am

Here's more of my speak-this one is fun!:

open an Excel sheet and track your time on FT. If you have any software that tracks a project or time used in a certain application (some graphics companies have this) then use that too.

Be honest and enter in -or let it enter for you- the time you spend on miles stuff. At the end of the day, week, month, see if a ticket on airline Z was worth all that time and then factor in what you'd get paid by the hour.

If you are at the job, you are making out like a bandit! If not, time to start writing a book and getting paid for the words you print. (I am as guilty as the next person-oh yeah!)
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mdtony Nov 26, 2002 9:58 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by xyzzy:
You worry because some bosses think surfing is bad? I had a boss at a very large former employer (whose stock is down ~96% since I left -- wish I could say that my departure was the cause ;-) who complained that we were wasting time any time he saw two employees workeing together to solve a time-critical problem.</font>
There are some bosses who waste more time worrying about whether their employees are wasting time than they could save if they cut out all non-work related activities! Now take that sentence to those bosses and I'll bet you they couldn't figure that out.

When I've supervised people, my attitude has always been, I just want you to get the job done. If you can get the job done and have some time left over to surf the net, make a personal call, or whatever, go for it. Just get the work done well and I will be happy.

That's the way that I've always been, but as I know from personal experience, far too many bosses are not like that.


kokonutz Dec 23, 2002 11:02 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">I have real problems with any workplace where the boss is going to come around and get on someone for doing a little internet surfing. Sheesh. Talk about micromanagement, and a sure fire way to make your employees leave!

Who cares as long as you are getting your work done? </font>
I could not agree more. I could just as easily be reading a magazine/staring at a blank computer screen, etc. My respect goes to managers who measure results, not means.

I've more or less been told that Internet usage is being tracked here. My review is on January 7...we'll see if FT comes up. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

CFM3RD Dec 23, 2002 11:13 am

I know I'm hooked.
So to prove to myself I could do it - I made myself stay off for four days.

While I was gone the BA $20 fare hit the news. Dang.

So much for the "staying off" idea.

Got to go - read some more. ha.

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Mvic Dec 23, 2002 11:31 am

FT helps keeps me sane (I am a full time Dad) and I would be addicted if I was allowed to be but 3 years olds don't take kindly to not being the center of their parent's universe for more than a few minutes at a ti

minatonka Dec 23, 2002 12:58 pm

....from a slightly different take -- while on mileage runs or vacations, I PAY to log on in part so I can read the flyertalk entries!!!

Daydream Dec 23, 2002 1:07 pm

Uh..you actually mean that first hour in the office in the morning is meant to work? Not to slowly skim through the email while getting the Flyertalk update?

kcvt750 Dec 23, 2002 7:22 pm

More like, I hate when workaholism interferes with my FT time. Since I'm usually working in all global time zones, I get to check in on a 24 hr. basis. It's about the only "perk" I can think of, outside of the trips/miles!

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Intrepid Dec 23, 2002 7:42 pm

I learned on the UA board how to avoid alienating customers...

At other times when the external and internal "customers" get to me, I fly away to FT...

NewM Dec 23, 2002 8:18 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ec336:

Here is my problem:
While at work, I can't help but log on to FT every now and then.... Anyone else out there with the same problem? [/B]</font>
Nope. You're the only one.


Dudrop Dec 23, 2002 10:21 pm

OK I admit it, I'm a FT holic. I can hardly go a a day without logging on. I do have a good excuse though, I'm retired, I enjoy traveling, FT has furthered my education, broadened my horizons, saved me many dollars and is entertaining. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

techgirl Dec 24, 2002 4:06 pm

I tend to look the other way on what my employees (and myself by extension) do at work as long as they are getting their work done and being productive. If you can talk on the phone and surf the net at the same time and still do your work accurately, in appropriate volumes, and on time, more power to you.

That said, I had to terminate someone last Friday... seems like he was not only NOT getting his work done but when we pulled the web logs (for back up so we could have a "clean" termination), he was moderating two websites, had designed a half dozen more on OUR time using our resources, and managed to spend a better part of his day IMing on four different screennames with over 60 individuals.

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Call me a micro-manager, but THAT is a bit extreme!

0524 Dec 24, 2002 4:34 pm

I prefer to FT in the privacy of my home. Who's got time between 9 and 5 (or, adjusted for reality, 7:30-7:30).

1K wannabe Dec 24, 2002 8:13 pm

I absolutely cannot stop! Several times a day!

jfe Dec 25, 2002 3:01 pm

Addicted, no way, what is my post count as of late?

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