Fly the concorde JFK-LHR for $1259 courtesy of Randy
Jun 19, 02, 9:32 am
#121
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1,222
Hi there,
I'm thinking of doing this deal this week.
I was wondering if someone could help me with some questions:
1. When does the Startwood to Quantas 2:1 transfer deal end ?
2. Does the awards on AA/BA and Quantas allow for open jaws and stopovers.
3. I am thinking of claiming my award sometime later in the future (maybe not even a BA 1st/concorde award). Is this a good idea ?
Thank You !
I'm thinking of doing this deal this week.
I was wondering if someone could help me with some questions:
1. When does the Startwood to Quantas 2:1 transfer deal end ?
2. Does the awards on AA/BA and Quantas allow for open jaws and stopovers.
3. I am thinking of claiming my award sometime later in the future (maybe not even a BA 1st/concorde award). Is this a good idea ?
Thank You !
Jun 19, 02, 9:59 am
#122
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Brooklyn, NY, US
Posts: 2,311
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by sunil:
1. When does the Startwood to Quantas 2:1 transfer deal end ?
2. Does the awards on AA/BA and Quantas allow for open jaws and stopovers.
3. I am thinking of claiming my award sometime later in the future (maybe not even a BA 1st/concorde award). Is this a good idea ?
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1. When does the Startwood to Quantas 2:1 transfer deal end ?
2. Does the awards on AA/BA and Quantas allow for open jaws and stopovers.
3. I am thinking of claiming my award sometime later in the future (maybe not even a BA 1st/concorde award). Is this a good idea ?
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- Open jaws and "surface sectors" are allowed, but unflown sectors count toward the mileage limits (eg- I'm flying into TXL and returning from VIE, so the TXL-VIE sector counts toward the 10,000 miles). In general, four additional stopovers are allowed for 10,000 points each. Check out http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/program/terms for the fine print....
- I'm putting some points int a QF account for unknown future travel- not a bad idea, IMHO, to get points over to QF while the 1:2 ratio remains, but you're subject to the same risks as having a lot of miles in any program (program changes, bankruptcies, etc.), However- unless you're sure that QF is the right program for where you want to go, you may want to keep at least some of the points in Starwood for flexibility/security.
[This message has been edited by landspeed (edited 06-19-2002).]
Jun 19, 02, 10:32 am
#123
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Long Island, NY, USA
Posts: 1,333
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by sunil:
Hi there,
I'm thinking of doing this deal this week.
I was wondering if someone could help me with some questions:
1. When does the Startwood to Quantas 2:1 transfer deal end ?
2. Does the awards on AA/BA and Quantas allow for open jaws and stopovers.
3. I am thinking of claiming my award sometime later in the future (maybe not even a BA 1st/concorde award). Is this a good idea ?
Thank You !</font>
Hi there,
I'm thinking of doing this deal this week.
I was wondering if someone could help me with some questions:
1. When does the Startwood to Quantas 2:1 transfer deal end ?
2. Does the awards on AA/BA and Quantas allow for open jaws and stopovers.
3. I am thinking of claiming my award sometime later in the future (maybe not even a BA 1st/concorde award). Is this a good idea ?
Thank You !</font>
Happy flying!
Jun 19, 02, 3:53 pm
#124
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: LAX
Posts: 82
After weeks of hanky-twisting I finally pulled the trigger on the subscriptions today. Buster is already saying they'll have to pry her out of the seat to get her off the Concorde. 
If anybody out there still needs/wants a free subscription to Insideflyer, send me an email.
If anybody out there still needs/wants a free subscription to Insideflyer, send me an email.
Jun 19, 02, 5:57 pm
#125
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Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Programs: OWEmerald; STARGold; BonvoyPlat; IHGPlat/Amb; HiltonGold; A|ClubPat; AirMilesPlat
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Well, a pack of cards is not very much compared to what Concorde flyers used to get, including a variety of gifts embossed with the Concorde logo: daytimers, pocket pad holders, silver luggage tags, leather stationary kit folders, flight certificates... But those days are gone with BA's cutbacks and cost paring.
Having just completed my trip yesterday, one can still ask and get one or two nice souvenirs, and buy a couple of others. You can ask for a blue foldered Smythson of Bond Street stationary set which comes with a flight certificate (the pilot will be happy to sign) and small silver pen. The menu is a substantial item, as is the Concorde Collection inflight gift collection catalog, and the Links of London silver items: cuff links, key chain, lapel pin or paperweight. At check in, you can request a couple of extra luggage tags, a rubberized plastic rectangular item onwhich you can write your contact details. Your boarding pass is customized and makes a good keepsake, though at JFK they keep the most attractive part of it. LHR lets you keep the whole thing.
Since you will get your tickets on QF stock in a QF ticket folder, you might also want to ask for a BA Concorde ticket folder.
Just a word of caution for those using the magazine purchase route to get this ticket, and who are not regular QF account holders, and who don't intend to fly on the Concorde for a while. Since any date or route changes are subject to a fee of 2500 or 5000 QF miles respectively, you might wish to have some spare ones in your account. Otherwise you will be stuck and unable to adjust your booking if plans change. So unless you either fly QF, or a oneworld partner whose flights you can credit into your new account for more QF points [or use hotel partners like Hilton that credit 1500 points a stay, which is a very good rate compared to the 500 it gives other FF programs] you may be be stuck with only the option of cancelling and redepositing your points, less another 5000.
I used already existing Starpoints, trimming my account somewhat. But well worth the experience...
Having just completed my trip yesterday, one can still ask and get one or two nice souvenirs, and buy a couple of others. You can ask for a blue foldered Smythson of Bond Street stationary set which comes with a flight certificate (the pilot will be happy to sign) and small silver pen. The menu is a substantial item, as is the Concorde Collection inflight gift collection catalog, and the Links of London silver items: cuff links, key chain, lapel pin or paperweight. At check in, you can request a couple of extra luggage tags, a rubberized plastic rectangular item onwhich you can write your contact details. Your boarding pass is customized and makes a good keepsake, though at JFK they keep the most attractive part of it. LHR lets you keep the whole thing.
Since you will get your tickets on QF stock in a QF ticket folder, you might also want to ask for a BA Concorde ticket folder.
Just a word of caution for those using the magazine purchase route to get this ticket, and who are not regular QF account holders, and who don't intend to fly on the Concorde for a while. Since any date or route changes are subject to a fee of 2500 or 5000 QF miles respectively, you might wish to have some spare ones in your account. Otherwise you will be stuck and unable to adjust your booking if plans change. So unless you either fly QF, or a oneworld partner whose flights you can credit into your new account for more QF points [or use hotel partners like Hilton that credit 1500 points a stay, which is a very good rate compared to the 500 it gives other FF programs] you may be be stuck with only the option of cancelling and redepositing your points, less another 5000.
I used already existing Starpoints, trimming my account somewhat. But well worth the experience...
Jun 19, 02, 6:23 pm
#126
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Austin
Programs: AA P4L, WN, BA, DL, UA, HHonors, IHG
Posts: 3,471
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Shareholder:
Just a word of caution for those using the magazine purchase route to get this ticket, and who are not regular QF account holders, and who don't intend to fly on the Concorde for a while. Since any date or route changes are subject to a fee of 2500 or 5000 QF miles respectively, you might wish to have some spare ones in your account. Otherwise you will be stuck and unable to adjust your booking if plans change. So unless you either fly QF, or a oneworld partner whose flights you can credit into your new account for more QF points [or use hotel partners like Hilton that credit 1500 points a stay, which is a very good rate compared to the 500 it gives other FF programs] you may be be stuck with only the option of cancelling and redepositing your points, less another 5000.</font>
Just a word of caution for those using the magazine purchase route to get this ticket, and who are not regular QF account holders, and who don't intend to fly on the Concorde for a while. Since any date or route changes are subject to a fee of 2500 or 5000 QF miles respectively, you might wish to have some spare ones in your account. Otherwise you will be stuck and unable to adjust your booking if plans change. So unless you either fly QF, or a oneworld partner whose flights you can credit into your new account for more QF points [or use hotel partners like Hilton that credit 1500 points a stay, which is a very good rate compared to the 500 it gives other FF programs] you may be be stuck with only the option of cancelling and redepositing your points, less another 5000.</font>
I ordered some IF's on 6/14, still waiting for the Starpoints to post.
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Middle_Seat
Jun 19, 02, 6:40 pm
#127
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Munich, Germany
Programs: Delta, US Airways
Posts: 177
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Middle_Seat:
I see the change-penalty on the web site listed in QF miles, but assume that real money could be used if a person had no more QF miles. Has anyone tried this?
I ordered some IF's on 6/14, still waiting for the Starpoints to post.
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I see the change-penalty on the web site listed in QF miles, but assume that real money could be used if a person had no more QF miles. Has anyone tried this?
I ordered some IF's on 6/14, still waiting for the Starpoints to post.
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In the end I didn't have to change the dates...
Jun 19, 02, 7:09 pm
#128
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Austin
Programs: AA P4L, WN, BA, DL, UA, HHonors, IHG
Posts: 3,471
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Shareholder:
Just a word of caution for those using the magazine purchase route to get this ticket, and who are not regular QF account holders, and who don't intend to fly on the Concorde for a while. Since any date or route changes are subject to a fee of 2500 or 5000 QF miles respectively, you might wish to have some spare ones in your account. Otherwise you will be stuck and unable to adjust your booking if plans change. So unless you either fly QF, or a oneworld partner whose flights you can credit into your new account for more QF points [or use hotel partners like Hilton that credit 1500 points a stay, which is a very good rate compared to the 500 it gives other FF programs] you may be be stuck with only the option of cancelling and redepositing your points, less another 5000.
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Just a word of caution for those using the magazine purchase route to get this ticket, and who are not regular QF account holders, and who don't intend to fly on the Concorde for a while. Since any date or route changes are subject to a fee of 2500 or 5000 QF miles respectively, you might wish to have some spare ones in your account. Otherwise you will be stuck and unable to adjust your booking if plans change. So unless you either fly QF, or a oneworld partner whose flights you can credit into your new account for more QF points [or use hotel partners like Hilton that credit 1500 points a stay, which is a very good rate compared to the 500 it gives other FF programs] you may be be stuck with only the option of cancelling and redepositing your points, less another 5000.
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Ref: http://www.hilton.com/en/hhonors/points/miles.jhtml
Jun 20, 02, 6:05 am
#129
Join Date: Feb 2002
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O.K. I can't resist any longer so I'm going to sign up for this. But....
Please tell me if it's a problem that up to now I have not been a member of *wood PG or Quanta Frequent Flyer? (I've just signed up on line for both). Any possible pitfalls there?
I will be trying for 2 tickets (250,000 miles) and I noticed on the *wood site that you can only transfer up to 99,999 points to any one frequent flyer programme which leaves me just short 250,000. Is this a new restriction??
Is there a way round this (apart from us both opening accounts and booking individually)
Thanks.
-- Dambus
Jun 20, 02, 6:40 am
#130
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Out and About
Posts: 1,078
Well, I too could not wait any longer. The Mrs. has sat at home many times while I went gallavanting off to some really wonderful places. To clear my reputation, I am going to take her on a memorable trip.
The above post on the *wood limit on transfers to one specific account is interesting. This could pose a SNAFU to one's plans. This should be investigated.
I will be somewhat nervous until the dates are confirmed and tickets are in hand.
The above post on the *wood limit on transfers to one specific account is interesting. This could pose a SNAFU to one's plans. This should be investigated.
I will be somewhat nervous until the dates are confirmed and tickets are in hand.
Jun 20, 02, 7:39 am
#131
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Hamptons always get fewer miles/points in airline programs because they are a budget chain, it goes without saying -- which is why I didn't specifically acknowledge that issue. Also be aware that you can only transfer a limited number of Starpoints each day, and to maximize the advantage of the 5K bonus for every 20K Starpoints transferred, you should restrict to 20K each day even though you can do up to 39K, I believe. So moving all of them to Qantas will take several days in any case. I believe the 99K limit does not exist for Qantas, but you should visit the Starwood forum and do a search for previous posts on this matter. It is also correct that you cannot substitue cash for the change or cancellation "fees".
Jun 20, 02, 7:42 am
#132
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Out and About
Posts: 1,078
I just found the answer to the *wood transfer limit.
If you check there all your questions regarding the transfer should be answered.
Maybe
If you check there all your questions regarding the transfer should be answered.
Maybe
Jun 20, 02, 11:00 am
#133
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Hi CountinPlaces.
It seems that other people have had no problems tranferring large numbers of points so everything should work out - fingers crossed.
Good look with your booking!
-- Dambus
Jun 20, 02, 3:14 pm
#134
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Posts: 174
Shareholder - thanks for the tips! I didn't mean to imply that one ONLY gets a pack of cards - just that there are "hidden" goodies to be had for the asking, if one knows what to ask for! I still have a sealed leather folder from my Concorde flight in 1993, along with emergency card etc.
Re: the penalty for date or route change - I'm inclined to get my ticket from QF NOW rather than wait for them to discontinue this excellent deal, but have absolutely no idea when I'll be able to get even a short time off work - most likely not until Spring 2003. I do have some AA miles - if I ticket with QF now for BA flights SEA(I'd prefer SFO but apparently that's a bit too far to squeak under the 10K mile limit)/LHR/JFK and change dates (not route) to fly next April, will QF accept 2500 AA miles to allow the change?
When I saw this afternoon that the miles are now in my Starwood account (after buying the subscriptions on June 11), I felt faint with excitement!
Thanks to all the members of the board for their advice both past and future.
Re: the penalty for date or route change - I'm inclined to get my ticket from QF NOW rather than wait for them to discontinue this excellent deal, but have absolutely no idea when I'll be able to get even a short time off work - most likely not until Spring 2003. I do have some AA miles - if I ticket with QF now for BA flights SEA(I'd prefer SFO but apparently that's a bit too far to squeak under the 10K mile limit)/LHR/JFK and change dates (not route) to fly next April, will QF accept 2500 AA miles to allow the change?
When I saw this afternoon that the miles are now in my Starwood account (after buying the subscriptions on June 11), I felt faint with excitement!
Thanks to all the members of the board for their advice both past and future.
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Shareholder:
Well, a pack of cards is not very much compared to what Concorde flyers used to get, including a variety of gifts embossed with the Concorde logo: daytimers, pocket pad holders, silver luggage tags, leather stationary kit folders, flight certificates... But those days are gone with BA's cutbacks and cost paring.
Having just completed my trip yesterday, one can still ask and get one or two nice souvenirs, and buy a couple of others. You can ask for a blue foldered Smythson of Bond Street stationary set which comes with a flight certificate (the pilot will be happy to sign) and small silver pen. The menu is a substantial item, as is the Concorde Collection inflight gift collection catalog, and the Links of London silver items: cuff links, key chain, lapel pin or paperweight. At check in, you can request a couple of extra luggage tags, a rubberized plastic rectangular item onwhich you can write your contact details. Your boarding pass is customized and makes a good keepsake, though at JFK they keep the most attractive part of it. LHR lets you keep the whole thing.
Since you will get your tickets on QF stock in a QF ticket folder, you might also want to ask for a BA Concorde ticket folder.
Just a word of caution for those using the magazine purchase route to get this ticket, and who are not regular QF account holders, and who don't intend to fly on the Concorde for a while. Since any date or route changes are subject to a fee of 2500 or 5000 QF miles respectively, you might wish to have some spare ones in your account. Otherwise you will be stuck and unable to adjust your booking if plans change. So unless you either fly QF, or a oneworld partner whose flights you can credit into your new account for more QF points [or use hotel partners like Hilton that credit 1500 points a stay, which is a very good rate compared to the 500 it gives other FF programs] you may be be stuck with only the option of cancelling and redepositing your points, less another 5000.
I used already existing Starpoints, trimming my account somewhat. But well worth the experience... </font>
Well, a pack of cards is not very much compared to what Concorde flyers used to get, including a variety of gifts embossed with the Concorde logo: daytimers, pocket pad holders, silver luggage tags, leather stationary kit folders, flight certificates... But those days are gone with BA's cutbacks and cost paring.
Having just completed my trip yesterday, one can still ask and get one or two nice souvenirs, and buy a couple of others. You can ask for a blue foldered Smythson of Bond Street stationary set which comes with a flight certificate (the pilot will be happy to sign) and small silver pen. The menu is a substantial item, as is the Concorde Collection inflight gift collection catalog, and the Links of London silver items: cuff links, key chain, lapel pin or paperweight. At check in, you can request a couple of extra luggage tags, a rubberized plastic rectangular item onwhich you can write your contact details. Your boarding pass is customized and makes a good keepsake, though at JFK they keep the most attractive part of it. LHR lets you keep the whole thing.
Since you will get your tickets on QF stock in a QF ticket folder, you might also want to ask for a BA Concorde ticket folder.
Just a word of caution for those using the magazine purchase route to get this ticket, and who are not regular QF account holders, and who don't intend to fly on the Concorde for a while. Since any date or route changes are subject to a fee of 2500 or 5000 QF miles respectively, you might wish to have some spare ones in your account. Otherwise you will be stuck and unable to adjust your booking if plans change. So unless you either fly QF, or a oneworld partner whose flights you can credit into your new account for more QF points [or use hotel partners like Hilton that credit 1500 points a stay, which is a very good rate compared to the 500 it gives other FF programs] you may be be stuck with only the option of cancelling and redepositing your points, less another 5000.
I used already existing Starpoints, trimming my account somewhat. But well worth the experience... </font>
Jun 20, 02, 5:08 pm
#135
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Austin
Programs: AA P4L, WN, BA, DL, UA, HHonors, IHG
Posts: 3,471
I ordered subscriptions on June 14 and learned today (reply to an email) that the StarPoints will post tomorrow, June 21.
I went ahead and ordered another subscription to have some spare points and breathing room in case I need to change the travel date.
Given that you can travel no more than 10,000 miles as a part of the basic QF deal, what is a good web site to learn the distance from AUStin to LHR?
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Middle_Seat
I went ahead and ordered another subscription to have some spare points and breathing room in case I need to change the travel date.
Given that you can travel no more than 10,000 miles as a part of the basic QF deal, what is a good web site to learn the distance from AUStin to LHR?
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Middle_Seat
