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venkat May 3, 2002 4:08 pm

2-1 Diners to British Airways is official
 
http://www.citibank.com/dinersus/com...rewards.htm#ba

cnk May 3, 2002 9:39 pm

Thanks for posting that. I have a significant amount of DC points just sitting around. I don't even have a British Airways acct, but I think I may set one up now. Anyone know how long until these points expire? The BA web site doesn't give much information unless you already have an account and password.

cnk

satish_ny May 3, 2002 10:56 pm

From the BA Executive Club Handbook:

"Do Miles expire?

Your Executive Club Miles will never expire as long as you earn or spend Miles in each 36-month period."

Meaning that if you either add miles to your account (I think transfers from DC as "earning") or spend them (redemption for airline rewards, car rentals, hotel stays, etc.) at least once every 3 years, your miles will never expire.



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IM4Travel May 4, 2002 5:11 am

Question:
Please forgive my ignorance here but,once the DC transfer is made to your BA account...what are the options other than redemption to London (from the US)? Can they be transferred into another carrier's FF account...?? can they be used domestically via a partner??

mktozd May 4, 2002 6:18 am

The availability has been good in my experience on BA and can be used for all one world partners except AA across the pond

yanxfann May 4, 2002 10:17 am

Three times in the past I have redeemed 35K BA miles for a free R/T coach on American Airlines between the mainland and Hawaii, I consider this to be ALMOST as good as getting an AAdvantage 35K award for only 17.5K miles (if I recall correctly the partner tickets weren't quite as flexible as AAdvantage awards - for example no stopovers were allowed when using BA miles for travel on AA if my memory is correct).

CharlesMD May 4, 2002 11:25 am

Is the 1 club reward pt = 1 mile applicable to the 2000 club reward pt/month bonus for the first year for new cardholders? If so that would suggest you could earn 24K miles in 1 yr just from getting the card!

CG May 4, 2002 11:58 am

Yes, last year it was applicable to any points you had in your account, including those earned as bonus points.

Flyer Jon May 6, 2002 9:21 am

Venkat

Can you tell me how you reached the page - http://www.citibank.com/dinersus/com...ewards.htm#ba?

I have been unable to get to it by going through the citibank site. I did call DC and the rep said the BA program had not been announced and she knew nothing about the link.

Thanks

venkat May 6, 2002 11:38 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Flyer Jon:
Venkat

Can you tell me how you reached the page - http://www.citibank.com/dinersus/common/clubrewards/bonusops/rewards.htm#ba

I have been unable to get to it by going through the citibank site. I did call DC and the rep said the BA program had not been announced and she knew nothing about the link.

Thanks
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The link still works fine to me.

dhacker May 6, 2002 2:33 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by venkat:
The link still works fine to me. </font>
I don't think you understood Flyer Jon's question. Since I had been wondering the same thing, let me try:

How did you find the page? It doesn't appear to be linked to the current Diners Web site. It seems to be a forgotten leftover from the previous site, except for the fact that the 2002 BA double info is there.

Thanks.


venkat May 6, 2002 2:44 pm

I see what you mean. The index page,

http://www.citibank.com/dinersus/clubrewards/index.htm

was in my bookmarks. I keep checking the "Bonus Opportunities" in this page from time to time for the BA 2-1 announcement.


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dhacker May 6, 2002 2:56 pm

Let me explain further. If you start at the top:

http://www.dinersclubus.com

or http://www.citibank.com/dinersus/

There are no links to either of the pages Venkat had bookmarked. The pages seem to be forgotten orphans of the old site design. They don't have the new site design or graphics that Diners launched on February 28th.

None of the pages in the current site seem to have any info about this year's promo. It's weird that the old pages would be updated with new promo information while the current site was not updated.


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venkat May 6, 2002 3:06 pm

Yes, I had the link bookmarked. I never new there was a new dinersclub site release on Feb 28th.

The wierd think is, when my friend called Diners Club last friday, the rep confirmed that 2-1 is coming back on Jun 1st. I just called Diners with the same question and the rep said he didn't know.

Please DON'T do any transfers until the promotion is confirmed in the new diners club website as pointed out by FLyer Jon and dhacker

Sorry for any inconvinence!!

[This message has been edited by venkat (edited 05-06-2002).]

venkat May 12, 2002 1:13 pm

The 2-1 promotion is back for sure. Its prinited on the latest statement for the card as well as in " In the Club" newsletter which comes along with the statement.

dhacker May 12, 2002 3:47 pm

Thanks Venkat, that is great news. Are there any more details? Specifically, I was wondering if they are charging double transfer fees.

Flyer Jon May 12, 2002 6:57 pm

Thanks Venkat

What do you make of the smallprint in the double BA miles section of the DC newsletter, "Club rewards points issued for frequent flyer miles may be redeemed in increments of 2,000 points?"

Are they saying, if we transfer UA or AA miles to DC points, we can only send them through to BA in 2K increments?

Appreciate anyone's thoughts.

FJ

Randy Petersen May 12, 2002 7:18 pm

Working the weekend to close the June issue of InsideFlyer and came across this bonus which our marketing person has had scheduled for a few months now. While I don't think the link is live yet....this could mean you might have a better alternative than converting UA or AA miles into Diners, etc. FYI only for right now:

Diners Club
Partner/Program - Frequent Flyer Package: 3,500 Club Rewards Bonus
Points for a one-year subscription to InsideFlyer magazine and a copy of
The Official Frequent Flyer Guidebook.

Cost - $60 USD

What To Do - Charge your subscription to your Diners Club Card. Call
800-767-8896 and mention code #DCP3500.

Program Dates - June 1 through August 31, 2002.
http://www.insideflyer.com/diners

venkat May 12, 2002 11:08 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Flyer Jon:
Thanks Venkat

What do you make of the smallprint in the double BA miles section of the DC newsletter, "Club rewards points issued for frequent flyer miles may be redeemed in increments of 2,000 points?"

Are they saying, if we transfer UA or AA miles to DC points, we can only send them through to BA in 2K increments?

Appreciate anyone's thoughts.

FJ
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Flyer Jon,

My understanding is, you can transfer diners club points only in increments of 2000 points irrespective of whether the points came from UA/AA or if they came form any other source.

venkat

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CharlesMD May 20, 2002 1:03 pm

Venkat,

Does this mean that I can convert my UA miles to DC points and then from DC points to BA miles on a 1-1 basis? This would put me that much closer to another Concorde trip.

Thanks!
(Your're the man!)

dhacker May 20, 2002 3:18 pm

Yes, you can launder AA or UA miles to BA 1-1. I've been doing it for the last 2 years. Diners has imposed a small fee on points-to-miles this year. For BA miles during this promo, the fee is 48 cents per 1000 points (and miles in this case)transfered out.

CharlesMD May 20, 2002 4:16 pm

Can you do this with Continental miles, too? How does the conversion work (i.e. 1 mile = 2 points) and can you "double" your miles with the 2-1 promotion? Is it possible to access someone else's miles to your DC points (i.e. girlfriend if she consents)? Thanks!

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dhacker May 20, 2002 4:25 pm

CO doesn't participate in miles-to-points, only AA and UA do (DL dropped out this year). The effective 1-1 ratio is only possible during the BA 2-1 promo. At other times, you would loose half your miles. Yes, at least as of last year, you could put anyones UA or AA miles into Diners CR points. Search the Diners Club forum for more details.

dgordon May 22, 2002 12:56 am

My daughter's account had about 7K in her UA account. We've been eating at IDine restaurants double miles promo to bring her account up to 10K, - the minimum increment for transfer to BA. Unfortunately I don't think I'll get my UA account up, but we have plently of AA miles.

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DtG

CharlesMD May 23, 2002 11:30 pm

Several questions about the Diners card (thanks so much for all your help!)
- Is the BA promotion where you get 2 miles/dollar offered every year?

- If the above is true, what do people think about flying exclusively on AA domestically (i.e. to get status, upgrades), converting the miles to BA, and then using those miles for premium BA travel (when sugar daddy doesn't pay). I know you can earn BA miles on AA flights, but when I give my EC number, I don't receive credit towards elite AA status.

- When I sign up for the card, do I need to mention any special promotion code, etc... to get the 2K points/month or the BA deal?

-How easy is it to get AA/UA miles converted into points and then have these deposited in your BA account? I am worried the miles will somehow "disappear" in the process. Is there a limit or minimum amount (I have several 100k to convert).

Thanks again Venkat for bringing this up; my gf and I are planning several BA trips now!

dhacker May 24, 2002 6:00 am

The BA double miles promo has been held every year several years. There is no guarantee that it will be repeated in the future. There have also been Delta double promos before. Last year, there were 20% and 25% bonus promos with AA and CO.

You will want to continue accruing miles on AA domestically for the status miles (current year and lifetime) and upgrades. But, after this years 2-1 expires, Don't transfer to Diners until next year's BA promo is announced. You don't want to bet half the value of the miles that the promo will be repeated.

You don't need a promo code to get the enrollment bonus points. This is the standard offer that you can get from the Diners Web site. However, you can get the same deal AND give another FTer a 3000 point referral bonus by using their referral code (email me if you want use mine).

There is little or no chance that your miles with get lost in the process. Just make sure to apply for the card and initiate the transfers soon, so that they arrive at Diners intime to transfer to BA before 8/31 when the doubling expires. Oficially, there is a 50k per year limit per AA or UA account for transfers to Diners. The good news is that, at least up until last year, they don't enforce the limits. I have been allowed to make multiple 50k transfers from AA and others have reported the same from UA. Also, you can transfer into Diners from AA and UA accounts that aren't yours, which allows consolidation of your family's and/or friends' stray account balances (minimum transfer is 10k and only 10k increments are allowed). Please search the Diners Club forum for "BA" to find lots more information.

CharlesMD May 24, 2002 12:55 pm

Thanks so much for that info. Can you post your code?

dhacker May 24, 2002 1:53 pm

Why certainly!

Application site:
https://www.citibank.com/dinersus/mgm/apply/index.htm

My sponsor code is WXST7354.

Thanks.

venkat May 24, 2002 3:42 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dhacker:
Why certainly!

Application site:
https://www.citibank.com/dinersus/mgm/apply/index.htm

My sponsor code is WXST7354.

Thanks.
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Dhacker,

You chided me so much last year for posting the referral code and seeking referrals. I was new at FT then and thought you had a good point and kept quiet.

I understand that CharlesMD specifically asked you to post the code but to quote your own words,

"If everyone who wanted Diners referral points did this, it would really clog up FT."

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum50/HTML/007043.html

One year has changed your attitude?

Edited to remove undeserved courtesy.

[This message has been edited by venkat (edited 05-26-2002).]

dhacker May 24, 2002 5:37 pm

I didn't cross-post topics on 4-5 forums that all linked to my referral code and bypassed ongoing discussions.

However, I will follow fallingasleep's lead from last year and donate the referral points to charity.

slawecki May 25, 2002 6:05 am

I attempted to contact dhacker by email to get his referal code, as he had brought the promotion to my attention.

The email was returned with bad address.

dhacker May 25, 2002 10:56 am

It seems to be working for other people.

venkat May 26, 2002 10:52 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dhacker:
I didn't cross-post topics on 4-5 forums that all linked to my referral code and bypassed ongoing discussions.

However, I will follow fallingasleep's lead from last year and donate the referral points to charity.
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There is no difference between what I did last year and what you are doing this year. You have been asking for referals in diners forum and in this thread at every chance and that is spam to me. How about every one with a diners card post their sponsor code in this thread and every thread.

Practice what you preach.

dhacker May 26, 2002 11:52 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by venkat:
Practice what you preach.</font>
I do.

There are lots of things I feel like saying to you. I can't do it privately because you haven't published your email address. I won't do it publicly because I don't want to give you the flame war you seem to be looking for. It's not worth it.

So, if it will make you feel better, go ahead and hurl whatever additional accusations you wish to make against me.

A better course would be to let it drop.

This will be my last comment on the matter (unless I change my mind).

Peace.

OnePassMan May 26, 2002 9:37 pm

Is there a limit as to how many DC Rewards points you can earn in one year? Or how many of those you can transfer to BA during the 2:1 promo timeframe?

Thanks...

venkat May 26, 2002 9:37 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dhacker:
I do.

There are lots of things I feel like saying to you. I can't do it privately because you haven't published your email address. I won't do it publicly because I don't want to give you the flame war you seem to be looking for. It's not worth it.

So, if it will make you feel better, go ahead and hurl whatever additional accusations you wish to make against me.

A better course would be to let it drop.

This will be my last comment on the matter (unless I change my mind).

Peace.
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I'm not starting a flame war. I'm putting of the flame you threw at me last year.

I've made my point about you. And this reply would me my last word on it.

dhacker May 27, 2002 8:22 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by OnePassMan:
Is there a limit as to how many DC Rewards points you can earn in one year? Or how many of those you can transfer to BA during the 2:1 promo timeframe?

Thanks...
</font>
There is no limit on Diners Club Rewards points that you can earn in a year and there are no limits on transfers to BA during the 2 for 1. There is a 50k per year limit (so far unenforced) on the number of miles you can transfer to Diners from AA and UA.

CharlesMD May 30, 2002 10:48 pm

I signed up for the regular DC card on the website but didn't see any place to indicate i) Referral code ii) Frequent flier affiliation.

Generally how long does it take for the card to process?

dhacker May 31, 2002 9:51 am

Don't worry about either.

You only need to give the FF affiliation when you are ready to transfer points-to-miles.

To get the application with a spot for the sponsor code, you would have had to use the special URL.

dhacker May 31, 2002 9:53 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CharlesMD:
Generally how long does it take for the card to process?</font>
It should be done fast, almost certainly within a week or two.



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