F/J class silverware update
 

Just wondering what different airlines are doing these days with F/J class place settings.

Has anyone gotten real knives post 9/11? Is the Concorde still using all plastic?

Your experiences please...

All plastic on UA LHR-IAD in C, but silverware with a plastic knife UA IAD-AMS in C. Mostly silverware with a plastic knife on UA which is what I fly most.

I have not seen real knives on any route to/from the US since 9/11.

I had a 'real' knife on KLM C-Class from AMS to Paris v.v.

Metal utensils with plastic fork in CO.

Ironically, these plastic knives are much sharper than the blunt, metal butter spreaders they used to give.

I love the story of the guy on CO who kept the metal utencils, wine bottle and plate from his flight. Transferring to another CO all that got confiscated by security.
When he boarded the flight, he got a new set.

Delta up front is silverware with a plastic knife. Same experience with AF within Europe...

All plastic on AA domestic first and coach. In a way, I like the plastic in F better, as they are regular sized pieces instead of thos little, "mini" forks and knives they used to use. But I do miss the real silverwear they used on the AA flights out of DAL. I think they were like international stuff.


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Jeff

DFW AAdvantage Platinum

All plastic, all the time, on AA.

>>> No, friend works for AF, says all is metal, with 3 exceptions...

These are general guidelines:

1. To/from the UK, all plastic. Silverware is usually full metal otherwise within Europe

2. To/from/within the US, no metal knife. My suspicions http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif are that AA and others are just being cheap by going to all plastic and using safety as an excuse. More so in Business/First, this is very, very tacky!

3. Australia, no metal knife. I believe other metal is allowed.

These are the only countries that impose these restrictions that I know of, with the UK being the most strict, as always... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I am not sure about New Zealand...



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Michael
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CO and NW in domestic F have metal with a plastic knife.

AA intl J has all plastic, but it's nice plastic.

CO - All plastic in int'l J. Kind of funny when with the nice dishes and glasses that they use, but I can't complain. Overall service still good anyways.
PR - Metal everything except for flights to the US. Plastic knife instead.
NW - Standard metal Y-class cutlery (as usual) with nice, sturdy plastic knife in int'l J. I thought it was going to be a flimsy, hard to use knife.

- Pat

when i flew on japan airlines nov/dec hnl/sgn and rtn had all silver in coach,no plastic anywhere.

>>> Aloha! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif Really, all silver in coach, from Hono? Way to go JAL!!! Maybe we are actully getting back to reality...

In the 100K+ miles I've flown since 9/11, the only countries that don't allow metal knives are the U.S. and U.K., although I haven't been to Australia recently.

The only exception is AF which had plastic both on domestic flights and a AMS-CDG flight. I was quite shocked that AF would allow the Germans (LH) to have decent silverware while AF had plastic.

I'm flying EZE to SCL tomorrow so I'll see if they have metal on LA.

VS UC had all-plastic on LHR-JNB and back. Kind of disappointed.

SQ's intra-Asia (no onward segments to the U.S.) had silverware.

CX's new plastic ware is very nice.

My favorite story is that in November, 2001, in Brisbane, they took away my 4" metal finger nail file. Then Qantas served me lunch and provided a metal knife some 6-7" long. Didn't see metal knives again, but got a good laugh over it all. So it's not just in the US where things are irrational.

Same story here, but this was boarding a boat for a dinner cruise. Confiscated the 2" swiss army thing on key chain and later served dinner with steak knives as you described!

>>> on a dinner cruise? ok................

On routes within Europe:

LH C: metal
LH Y: plastic
SR C: metal (that was LHR-ZRH operated by LX, so comment above re UK not quite correct)
BA Y: what's a knife?

Routes to/from US: as above

VS lounges at LHR T3 and LGW: plastic (both airside)

CO to Europe: all plastic
CO to Hong Kong: metal with plastic knife
CO domesstic: metal with plastic knife

British Airways Concorde from London to New york on March 15, 2002 - all plastic!

My experience on NW and CO out of DCA has been all plastic.

On any of my DL flights since 9-11:

WHAT meals?

>>> that is pathetic!!!

No, in regard to one comment above, the UK has banned all metal, and if on Crossair, it snuck in... Please, ssshhhhhhhhhh,
don't say anything. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif Crossair will get nailed for that, as they can have metal to other Euro destinations and the plane just gets turned around...

The fact that the Concorde is all plastic ought to be a clue... and sorry, that is so bad!