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squeakr Feb 7, 2002 12:49 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by artboy:
I don't use a lock, I use plastic zip-ties. They can open it if they need to (which is true of any lock) but it keeps folks with sticky fingers from browsing around, and keeps it from opening by accident.

Throw a few zip-ties in your bag and you can travel around the world replacing it every leg of the journey. Plus that way you at least know if they looked in it -- which isn't necessarily true if they just use a master key and close it back up. That way i know to check if something is missing...
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or you can be a geek like me and spend $8.50 or so for these mini plastic travel locks from magellan's until you figure our that your hubby has a box of those plastic thingies in his tool drawer...


matthewuk Feb 9, 2002 8:22 am

if you're worried about zips on soft bags opening then instead of a lock why not use a piece of ribbon?

We 'mark' all our bags with a short length of patterned ribbon tied either onto the handle on suitcases or through the zip holes (instead of a lock) on soft bags.

It makes identification on the belt that bit easier and no keys to lose!!

kanebear Feb 9, 2002 10:06 am

For the first time in my life after 25 years of travelling I locked a bag before my FCO-CDG flight. Flights were cancelled at FCO, bags shuffled around, to make a long story short we got the bags at CDG and EVERY bag had a red plastic doohicky on it within which was twisted bailing wire that wasn't there when I picked 'em up at the AZ office for rechecking. Not exactly secure but definitely enough to keep sticky fingers out. The locked bag (containing lots of our purchases) was secured with one of these plastic thingys as well and the lock (decent quality) was nowhere to be found.

IMHO locks only serve to deter a petty thief that might otherwise unzip and have a casual look around. My luggage is ugly enough to do that anyway so I just don't bother! As others have said, don't check valuables (jewelry, etc) and you will have no worries.

TAKEOFF2DAY Feb 9, 2002 12:21 pm

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tmorse6570 Feb 9, 2002 12:51 pm

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mudgal Feb 13, 2002 2:30 am

Here's a tip passed on to me by a luggage salesperson in downtown MIA shop, reportedly told to him by baggage handler friend who worked at MIA:

Don't use a padlock of any sort because the self-sealing zippers can be opened by poking them with a ball point pen and resealed by running the zipper back and forth -- you never realize your bag's been opened until you yourself open it!

To lock a bag, use a cable tie (aforementioned "zip tie"). To prevent the self-sealing problem, be sure to tie it through the padlock loops, and then through the handle before cinching it down. It then can't be opened and self-sealed to "close".

As for the opening . . . well, I think you can get by with nail clippers on most flights now.



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RSSrsvp Feb 13, 2002 5:47 am

I am a believer in locking all my checked luggage. My theory is no different than the person who uses "The Club" on the steering wheel of their car. A thief always takes the path of least resistance.

As for checking the bag with a Skycap, I used to do that, give $1-2 per bag as a tip, and then stand around like an idiot until they wheel my bags away or put them on a belt. Now I just go to the F/elite ticket counter line on either DL & AA (I only fly them or their partners) and let the agent working the counter put my luggage on the conveyor belt. In case there are any items missing and my bags were broken into, this narrows the field of possible suspects down to the luggage handlers on the tarmac.
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Linda in Lebanon Feb 13, 2002 12:59 pm

I don't use locks anymore. I use tiewraps. You simply ask for scissors when you get to the hotel and cut them off. I carry a lot of them in the side pockets in case they want to search when I check in. A cheap alternative and easy to find your luggage on a baggage carousel ~ especially if you use the colored ones!

OldAztec Feb 13, 2002 4:29 pm

Plastic wire ties are the way to go.... I use a key chain box cutter to open. I've had no problems with it.

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swdcflyer Feb 14, 2002 11:59 am

This is from Southwest's website:
http://www.iflyswa.com/travel_center/pack_smart.html

"Remove hooks and straps before checking luggage. These are easily caught in baggage handling machinery, which can cause extensive damage to your bag.

Be sure to lock your luggage prior to checking it in, and keep the key with you."

-I figure that if you follow their directions, you are more likely to win an argument if something goes wrong... of course this is the perfect world theory...


se94583 Feb 14, 2002 9:46 pm

I used to use electrician's ties before they prohibited nail clippers (easy to clip off on the backside). Now, I don't have much for them to steal if they do take anything.

Once, US mangled a bag, I wrote them (politely), stating the replacement cost, and they sent a check (with a release on the back, of course), but I got a new bag, so all was well.

Toxa Feb 15, 2002 12:14 am

Locking prevents from other people smuggling things using your bags...

onedog Feb 15, 2002 11:01 am

I also use the plastic zip ties that can be purchased in a variety of colors.

I just figure that if customs or anyone else with a legitimate purpose needs to get into my bags, they will get into my bags regardless of what type of locking mechanism I use. I am trying to prevent folks with "sticky fingers" from getting into my bags (regardles of who needs to or wants to get into my bags, I NEVER put anything of real value in my checked bags).

Also, I don't want anyone using my bag to smuggle anything. I have heard stories about airline employees using passenger luggage to smuggle stuff. They put their "stuff" into your bag, mark the bag somehow (tie plastic ribbon to the handle, fold a newspaper and leave it partially hanging out of an exterior zipper compartment, etc.) so their accomplice at the other end knows which bag was used, take out their "stuff" and send your bag on its way. If customs or whomever finds the "stuff", Mr. or Mrs. passenger takes the fall. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

I use zip ties in an oddball color which makes it less likely that someone with "sticky fingers" will just happen to have a replacement zip tie. Also, the zip tie makes it really easy to identify my bag on the luggage carousel. On the rare occasion when my bag is misplaced or delayed during its journey from the plane to the luggage carousel and a customer service rep is helping me find the bag, explaining that I have used a zip tie on the zipper makes it really easy for the rep to look for my bag. No need for them to look at luggage tags on similar looking bags. If the bag doesn't have a zip tie (I will usually put a couple of extra on the handle just for identification purposes), then the rep easily knows to keep on looking.


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Buster Feb 15, 2002 4:06 pm

I just got back from a trip where I was told in LAX (by CO), that luggage locks were no longer allowed. They did, however, provide me with a zip tie. On the way back in IAH (also CO), I was told that they had no zip ties. I then asked if I could lock my luggage, and got a very puzzled look from the agent, who said that of course I could lock my luggage. For my next trip, I figure I'll buy some zip ties and bring zip ties and locks with me, and just ask which I can use, since it doesn't seem to be consistent.

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artboy Feb 17, 2002 2:29 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mudgal:
To lock a bag, use a cable tie (aforementioned "zip tie"). To prevent the self-sealing problem, be sure to tie it through the padlock loops, and then through the handle before cinching it down. It then can't be opened and self-sealed to "close".</font>
I'm glad someone mentioned this -- with soft bags you really do have to run the tie through both zippers AND something stationary on the bag. The duffels I use (Eagle Creek, highly recommended) have good steel D-hooks on both ends of the zipper run for the shoulder straps.

I attach the zippers to one end -- it also makes it much harder to do the pull-apart soft luggage trick where the sides of the bag are spread from between the zippers. This is more of a problem in overnight trains in Europe and such, where the crooks need time to get away before you realize you've been ripped off.

As for opening the zip ties on arrival, I didn't realize it was such an issue for folks! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif They're strong, certainly, but they aren't exatly adamant. If you just pull apart the zippers sharply it'll break the internal "catch" on the zip tie. The key word here is sharply -- you can quickly feel like the 90-pound weakling trying to slowly pull one apart! :P


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