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psyflyer Aug 19, 2006 6:48 pm


Originally Posted by gleff
This is an advantage. It is certainly not a killer advantage. I have nice balances with both programs, and I won't neglect my Mileage Plus balance in recognition of the ability to do a stopover on a domestic award with American.

And this certainly shouldn't influence which carrier you fly and earn status with...!

i guess advantage is in the eye of the beholder. but doesnt UA allow stop overs on intl award tix??

lucky9876coins Aug 19, 2006 7:13 pm


Originally Posted by psyflyer
but doesnt UA allow stop overs on intl award tix??

Correct, but not domestically.

holtju2 Aug 19, 2006 8:27 pm

Both programs have strengths and weaknesses and it is impossible to say which one is best overall.

Using UA miles one can fly from Asia to South America and have a stop over in US for 150K in F i.e. HKG-SFOx-LAX-DENx-YYZx-GRU-ORDx-NRTx-ICNx-HKG or for the same mileage you can fly from US to to Japan in F and have a stop over in Europe.

You absolutely CANNOT (99% or more of the time) change the UA issued *A award once the travel has begun where AA allows date changes.

AA's OW mileage based awards are truly nice i.e. RTW LAX-LIM-SCL-EZE-GRU-MADx-JNB-MAD-TLV-LHR-LCA-LHRx-HKG-NRT-MEL-HKGx-LAX for 220K AA miles in C.

If you reach certain threshold on UA you can earn quadruple miles for a month that makes MR's so much more "enjoyable".

UNITED959 Aug 19, 2006 8:48 pm


Originally Posted by gleff
This is an advantage. It is certainly not a killer advantage. I have nice balances with both programs, and I won't neglect my Mileage Plus balance in recognition of the ability to do a stopover on a domestic award with American.

And this certainly shouldn't influence which carrier you fly and earn status with...!

Exactly. Ups and downs can be pointed out of both programs...

wanaflyforless Aug 19, 2006 9:36 pm


Originally Posted by gleff
This is an advantage. It is certainly not a killer advantage. I have nice balances with both programs, and I won't neglect my Mileage Plus balance in recognition of the ability to do a stopover on a domestic award with American.

And this certainly shouldn't influence which carrier you fly and earn status with...!

Very true. Both programs have their own advantages.

It could, however, be a reason for someone who only wants to use their miles domestically to choose AA as their preferred carrier, provided their schedule and needs fit visiting two destinations on every award ticket.

UA definitely is stronger when it comes to other awards, especially Asia.

ContinentalFan Aug 19, 2006 10:40 pm

The benefit for me is that it's easier to get Platinum elite-for-life status on AA. Miles from all sources count, which is great!!

dhammer53 Aug 20, 2006 12:16 am

http://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/Vi...artnersContent

Mileage redemption AA vs UA

US to Europe

F 125 vs UA = 100k
C 90 vs UA = 80k

US to ASIA

F 125 or 135 vs UA = 120k (the lower number is off-peak).
C 90 or 110 vs UA = 90K

UA has always been cheaper on award redemptions to many destinations.

While I do like AA's stop-over policy, most of my redemption is for international C class travel on UA.

walkdmx Aug 20, 2006 7:18 am

I am talking about domestic award tickets here.
 

Originally Posted by hw248i
I flew to Salvador Brazil on United with a stop over in Rio at no charge on a award ticket? not sure what your talking about?

Indeed UA gave me a stopover in New Zealand on an LAX-SYD this past winter, so it is hard to move my loyalty to AA but the free domestic stopover in Chicago on any domestic AA award is irrresistable and amounts to several hundred dollars bonus value for the free ticket. UA could allow this without it costing them anything which makes their capitulation to AA's advantage on this all the more mystifying.

bordeauxboy Aug 20, 2006 10:55 am


Originally Posted by wanaflyforless
Oneworld works.

While AA does not serve a lot of Asian destinations, CX and JL do.

CX tends to treat AA elites better than AA does ^ , so long as you are willing to connect on CX/JL to go to most places with full benefits.

With UA you only earn a status bonus on UA and US flights; not star alliance wide.

With AA the status bonus is also alliance wide.

Yes, there are some hiccups, like the BA/AA transatlantic restrictions stemming from antitrust concerns, but in general, Oneworld works!

(AA has by far the most usable award restrictions in my experience; and these rules apply to partner awards too).

^ Completely agree that OW - with the major exception of BA - treats its elite flyers better than the other two alliances.

It will be especially enjoyable later this year when I reach ExPlat and will be able to use CX F lounges (theoretically BA as well, but that is just a theory :confused: ).

And I get AA elite qualification bonuses for flying in C class on other OW carriers - a huge advantage over the UA/*Alliance procedures.

Christian Smith Aug 20, 2006 12:42 pm

"With UA you only earn a status bonus on UA and US flights; not star alliance wide."



which star alliance member earns bonus on all its members??? this is something i dislike allot and found out the hard way on UA having switched to them from AA this year. is LH or another european carrier program more advisable? i live in spain and fly allot to north and south america.

lucky9876coins Aug 20, 2006 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by Christian Smith
which star alliance member earns bonus on all its members??? this is something i dislike allot and found out the hard way on UA having switched to them from AA this year. is LH or another european carrier program more advisable? i live in spain and fly allot to north and south america.

No other Star carrier gives bonus miles for partners.

andrzej Aug 20, 2006 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by dhammer53
http://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/Vi...artnersContent

Mileage redemption AA vs UA

US to Europe

F 125 vs UA = 100k
C 90 vs UA = 80k

US to ASIA

F 125 or 135 vs UA = 120k (the lower number is off-peak).
C 90 or 110 vs UA = 90K

UA has always been cheaper on award redemptions to many destinations.

While I do like AA's stop-over policy, most of my redemption is for international C class travel on UA.

I guess you don't know about OW awards?


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All for 130K AA miles :D, South America in October, Europe in March and US west coast in June....

kuroneko Aug 20, 2006 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins
Welcome to FT! ^

I guess it depends on who you ask... For me, that is no advantage at all. I never redeem awards for domestic flights, so I really don't care either way.

Agreed. I never travel this way either, so this advantage has zero value to me.

On the other hand, to me anyway, the ability to redeem my UA MP miles for upgrades on select Star Alliance carriers is a HUGE advantage to me that trumps the one in question hands down. (*A is the only alliance that allows this)

divilish Aug 20, 2006 3:30 pm

Advantage: yes

Killer: no

Kagehitokiri Aug 20, 2006 3:33 pm

UA allows some *A upgrades
UA PS First is better than AA's NYLA First
UA has SQ, TG, LX, LH

AA has this stopover thing
AA has CX


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