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geo1004 Nov 14, 2001 10:55 am

This thread is crazy!

You guys need to lay off the crack pipe. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

cactuspete Nov 14, 2001 11:22 am

For those conspiracy theorists who are so inclined, take a look at www.twa800.com .

Gaucho100K Nov 14, 2001 3:17 pm

Great thread. We have covered Airbus 300 safety, to a conspiracy to cover facts, to Social Security and welfare....

So, back on topic, when is the NTSB supposed to issue an official ruling/report on this incident?

MEX1K Nov 14, 2001 3:21 pm

First of all, if we're going to get into conspiracy theories, it's not crack we're smoking; it's pot or hash. Secondly, there are a lot of reasons why the government would suppress information and/or control the flow of information regarding the cause of the crash...and it is a crash, not an "attack". Keep in mind that at first, it was birds in the engine, now it's the tail sheering off (first time in history jet aviation) and who knows what it is going to be tomorrow? The airline industry has everything to lose if Thankgiving traffic goes south or there's aircraft grounding due to another attack. Look at how the stock market went up as soon it "appeared" to be an accident. Without proof or hard facts, even if they're suspicious, the government can say what it wants to skew public opinion; they certainly haven't closed the door on the possibility of sabotage. Don't we "appear" to be gaining territory in Afghanistan during this time as well? So maybe I've been smoking too much, and I sincerely want it to be an accident, but there are too many coincidences surrounding this "crash" not to speculate. And in a case like this, at a time like this, the government is only going to tell us what they want to tell us, and not before they have to tell us. Joint anyone?

mdtony Nov 14, 2001 6:25 pm

Here's why the government won't cover up. What airline crash would it have made the most sense to cover up? What one would have made the most sense to hide in order to preserve the reputation of the US?

Anyone want to nominate the shooting down of the Iran Airlines plane by the Vincennes?

And this would have been a situation where it would have been easy to cover everything up. You've got a navy ship, and can just order everyone on board to shut up and not talk. It's a country that most Americans don't give a **** about, so nobody would have paid attention.

But we came out and admitted to our error.

the-ca-goat Nov 14, 2001 6:48 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ender83:
cg you are right on the money.

and for the rest of you and your 'contempt' for the current administration, let us not forget whose administration sold out national security secrets for illegal campaign contributions. buddhist temple, iced tea... ring any bells?

unlike the political hacks of the last eight years, the current government at least has a grip on reality and ethical behavior.
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Lets not forget perjury and the host of other implications of illegal activity.

BobbySteel Nov 15, 2001 9:17 pm

I would like a deal on this hash/pot y'all are smoking. Clearly you have copious amounts to deal with.

Please send an eighth to:
Rob K
College Park, MD 20740

(Unmarked envelopes, please- you don't need the hassle!)

tummyg Nov 15, 2001 11:54 pm

Some people here have been very hard on our ex-pres (you know who you are), I think it is time to smoke the peacepipe, so whoever is distributing all the hash/pot, please forward some to Former Pres. Clinton (after all he has waited a long time to inhale) and while you are at it, send some to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue too. Perhaps the US would be more popular around the world if the commander in chief was required to smoke a little every day. lol

And what is with this rattling in the cockpit tapes thing, have these people never flown, there are always rattles during takeover, and I would say severe rattles on 10% or more of my flights (maybe its just NW???) ... people are going to start freaking out during takeoff...

Think I will check out that atlintic monthly website.

and anyone know some good conspiracy theory websites while we are at it?

freefaller12k Nov 16, 2001 12:41 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Mike M:

Do you think people 40 years ago could believe some of the stuff that is uncovered in unsealed documents today? Probably unimaginable at that time.
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Big diffrence between information now and 40 years ago. Anyone with an internet connection can publicize to the entire world (well you know...), anonomously...


Mike M Nov 16, 2001 2:02 pm

Good point Freefaller, but it doesn't mean it couldn't be covered up, just more unlikely.

Mike

se94583 Nov 16, 2001 2:23 pm

Just the opposite. I think coverups are actually easier to pull off with a free-flowing information society. Best way to pull off a coverup in the internet age is to publicize it and let the spin meisters debunk the "conspiracy theory" types. After awhile, everyone just moves on to the next story. Just ask Rep. Condit about that.

Face it, given the multiple competing interests out there, we will never get a straight story from the government, the manufacturers of every component of the plane, AA, the pilot's union, the victim's lawyers, etc. Just too much $$ and/or politics at stake, even if there is no chance that a terrorist attack happened.

Spyder Nov 16, 2001 2:40 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by se94583:
Just the opposite. I think coverups are actually easier to pull off with a free-flowing information society. Best way to pull off a coverup in the internet age is to publicize it and let the spin meisters debunk the "conspiracy theory" types. After awhile, everyone just moves on to the next story. Just ask Rep. Condit about that.

Face it, given the multiple competing interests out there, we will never get a straight story from the government, the manufacturers of every component of the plane, AA, the pilot's union, the victim's lawyers, etc. Just too much $$ and/or politics at stake, even if there is no chance that a terrorist attack happened.
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Good point. Look at the elegance of "wake turbulence" as an explanation. No one to blame but the wind...




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