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CFM3RD Sep 11, 2001 9:30 pm

I'm scheduled DFW - JAN on Sat. Going to see my parents. I talked to Dad and he asked if I was still coming.
You bet. Dad has lymphoma - so how many more weekends are there?
The *******s who did this are raving lunatics. Who knows where or when?
Besides, If I go down at least I will be doing a good deed at the time. I figure I need all the credit I can get on the final roll call. I wonder if there is coach, biz and FC in Heaven? Ha.

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SNA 1K Sep 11, 2001 9:43 pm

I love people who quote stupid statistics (hey, it's the freakin law of averages!) about how SAFE flying tomorrow will be. Well, whoppee freakin doo.

Answer this question:

How did FOUR airlines get hijacked from THREE separate airports? Until you can answer that definatively, and until measures are in place to prevent that...then airline travel is not safe. And if you RELLY think you're safe, you're actually just rolling the dice.

!mykol! Sep 11, 2001 9:59 pm

To fly or not to fly...I guess this really depends on your situation. I have been typically flying around 60 segments a year...and on each segment my wife worries when I leave....

For now, I will be travelling by Via (Train here in Canada)...is it safer? Who knows...but if it offers peace of mind (real or not)...it is worth it (and yes I am considering Toronto-Vancouver).

Maybe after a while I will return to the air...but not for the near term........especially not travelling to the US.

100K Sep 11, 2001 10:01 pm

Just realize everyone that flights will NOT operate tomorrow as scheduled. Few planes are where they are supposed to be. The airlines will need tomorrow to get planes and crews where they need to be.

Note that most 747s from Asia landed in Vancouver. Cross-country flights in the air landed somewhere in the middle of the country (the BOS-SFO flight I often take landed in Des Moines).

If you are scheduled to fly Wednesday, don't count on it, whether they lift the ban at noon or not.

LAX 1K Sep 11, 2001 10:01 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by SNA 1K:
I love people who quote stupid statistics (hey, it's the freakin law of averages!) about how SAFE flying tomorrow will be. Well, whoppee freakin doo.

Answer this question:

How did FOUR airlines get hijacked from THREE separate airports? Until you can answer that definatively, and until measures are in place to prevent that...then airline travel is not safe. And if you RELLY think you're safe, you're actually just rolling the dice.
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Well I am going to fly to be home with my wife and family! I am nervous about flying. not about the safety in the air as much as the 2-3 hours of delays at the airports.. and security.. and stress...

I really would like to go home and not come back.. but will when safe...

God bless all..

Hunki Sep 11, 2001 10:08 pm

If we sit and cower on the ground, then the terrorists have achieved their goal! I have a trip planned on Sunday to MSY thru ORD and I plan on going if UA is flying. I figure that it will probably be safer than my drive to Portland on Thursday, especially since I have to drive past two major military installations on alert.

Morrissey Sep 11, 2001 10:11 pm

I'm going to SFO on business on 9/24, I have an ONT-BDL mileage run scheduled on 9/28, and a vacation in SIN on 10/6. I'm not cancelling any of them! As far as I'm concerned, flying is still safer than driving (especially driving on the streets of Los Angeles)

sdix Sep 11, 2001 11:46 pm

Why not fly this week?

Because my 12 year old daughter asked me not to..

That's why not!

No business trip or job in the world is more important than family

sjharte Sep 12, 2001 3:22 am

I am booked to fly on a cheapo ticket EDI-FRA-NYC on LH on Friday.

LH are saying no refund unless they cancel.

I was only going to New York for the weekend.

Have to decide if we go to bombed out Manhatten as tourists for the weekend or lose the money for the flighrs.

Stephen


HHonors Sep 12, 2001 3:40 am

I am not booked on a flight until next month, but I don't have any reservations about flying.

ScottC Sep 12, 2001 5:13 am

Yes, I would ands did, although it was a euro flight the sentiment on board was quieter than usual and it was clear everyone was stunned by the situation.

mauld Sep 12, 2001 6:04 am

I'm scheduled to fly tomorrow EWR-LGW, then LHR-STO on Sat. The continued closing of the airport and/or the need for me to be at my desk in NYC would be the only things keeping me from flying.

MIAFlyer Sep 12, 2001 6:19 am

Had a ticket MIA-LIM (Lima, Peru) for Tuesday night, coming back Friday night. Called AA and dropped the trip, not from fear, but doesn't make sense to go for only one day.
Plus I am hoping one more person to/from Lima can now get home, as I know both flights were overbooked (before yesterday at least).

If I were really a turd, I would ask AA to re-accomodate me, then ask for a voluntary bump at the gate. Wonder if that is going to happen Wed/Thurs/Fri?

I am fortunate for many reasons:
1. I did not personally lose anyone in the tragedy. As a nation, we all lost something yesterday, but that is a different discussion.
2. I was able to spend last night at home, with all my family, including my 2 yr old and 6 week old sons.
3. I was not stuck in an airport with at least a two day wait to get home. I feel for you guys.

Count your blessings, and pray for those who were lost.

Scott

rachel Sep 12, 2001 6:47 am

I was suppose to fly out last night, I am now camped out at a hyatt until I can get home. I have a friend who was on the united flight that crashed into the pentagon--I would REALLY prefer not to fly right now. The car rental companies in IND have waiting lists 100's long and I NEED to get home and just hold my 18 month old. I would be glad to give all my FF just to be home with my family right now.

To answer the question is that I will be on a plane as soon as I can--just to get home to my family. I will be rethinking the 4 transatlantic flights that I have in the next 3 months and will be doing only essential business trips instead of "we would like you to be there" business trips.

I do appreciate the folks who are considerate of those of us who just want to get home and would give up their seats.

Watchful Sep 12, 2001 6:50 am

A lot more people were killed at work yesterday than in the four planes. I guess we could ask, "Are you going to work today?"

My take...sort of like some others. If I were leaving home today on a non-essential flight I would think seriously about staying home. However, if I were trying to get back home I would not hesitate to fly.

My next flight is Sept. 22 and I feel sure I will be on it.

kokonutz Sep 12, 2001 6:51 am

I stongly agree with Hunki. There's no freaking way I'm going to let these terrorists terrorize me.

The only fear of flying that ought to come out of this is the fear by those responsible of the flight of the tomohawk missile that will eventually drive right up their a**.

[This message has been edited by kokonutz (edited 09-12-2001).]

BoSoxFan45 Sep 12, 2001 6:56 am

SNA-

I think it's my duty as an American and a World Citizen to fly.

This is a war. And if this attack sends you running into a hole, well, they have defeated you. Their goal is to create fear and terror. Way to give into them.

Do what you like- this is after all America, and it's your freedom to do so. But if you are going to call me and others idiots, I'll tell you that I think anyone who doesn't fly is a coward.

Have a safe trip home. Maybe after I and others are "canaries in coal mines", you'll feel safe to get on a plane again.

Don't thank us. It's our pleasure.

jabez Sep 12, 2001 7:28 am

I am suppose to fly home Thurs. am from SAT. I have no idea if I'll get out. I am not afraid,but will definitely pray before I take off (whwn I do).

rfrost Sep 12, 2001 7:43 am

I'm scheduled to fly on Friday and if the plane goes, I'll be on it. I agree with the posts above that if we ground ourselves, we've let the pigs win. And, as I looked down Fifth Avenue yesterday and saw the smoke, I thought I was pretty lucky to be working in midtown. Having said all that, I think I'll be more than a little on edge if we go.

NJDavid Sep 12, 2001 7:44 am

If my flight leaves at 8pm tonight, I'll probably be on it.

If not, I've already made a reservation for a sleeper room on a 26 hour amtrak trip leaving Thursday afternoon.

No one has ever stopped me from getting on a flight with a leatherman knife or a Toollogic knife. We ALL know how Stupid airport security is in the US (how many times have we commented about how they make us make our beepers beep or PC's show a screen - as if a terrorist couldnt figure out a way to have a hidden bomb do that).

We are looking at a return to the days of skymarshals, airport security like they have in Israel, and never feeling safe in the air again.

Also, maybe now, the airport security worker will make more than minimum wage.

[This message has been edited by NJDavid (edited 09-12-2001).]

snakebite Sep 12, 2001 8:23 am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SNA 1K:
[B]I AM NOT FLYING TOMORROW!!!!!!


"Believe me, I want to see this country operating as a complete and total police state before I get back on a plane?"
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When I read your comment about the police state I thought of Benjamin Franklin's quote, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Yesterday the essence of our liberty was attacked and I for one, will not knuckle under to these terrorists. It's an issue of who and what we are and if we allow it to be taken away then yeah, maybe we'll still be alive, but will it really be worth it?



[This message has been edited by snakebite (edited 09-12-2001).]

mountain flyer Sep 12, 2001 8:54 am

I'm in California now and will be on my flight to Denver tomorrow as long as it leaves. I want to get back to my wife as soon as possible.

I have no hesitation to getting on a plane.

Bourne Sep 12, 2001 9:04 am

I am going back home for the weekend. If the flight takes off, I am on it.

geo1004 Sep 12, 2001 9:07 am

I'll fly and I'll do it gladly. These events have affected us all. But let me tell you some things I saw yesterday afternoon on my way home and all within a mile or two of the burning Pentagon:

1. I watched a woman walk in a store and buy a loaf of bread.
2. I watched a man gets pulled over for a routine speeding violation.
3. I watched kids rollerblade in the street.

Yesterday's events were tragic. I have no doubt they will be punished and share koko's cruise missile sentiments. I also plan to do everything I can to ensure these attacks are rendered failures. Yes, lives were lost. Yes, destruction took place. But, no, in the long run they will be failures...

yeah, I'll fly. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

belle3388 Sep 12, 2001 9:08 am

i have no problem getting on the next plane to go see my mom and sisters in SJC, but will have second thoughts about flying together with my husband and other family members on the same flight, just can't explain why

FlyinMike Sep 12, 2001 11:53 am

Hell yes - I will not be intimidated, harassed or otherwise affected by the scum of the earth vermon who would commit such an act. If my flight home from EWR to PHX leaves Friday, I'll be on it. End of story.

worldbanker Sep 12, 2001 11:57 am

Supposedly time heals everything. I don't how much time or what measures will be taken, but flights will go back up this week if for not anything else- to reunite families. After families are together, flights will pick up as we need to get people back and forth and carry on.

To say that we won't fly again is the same as saying since dot.com companies failed and business is slow right now, we may as well go back to the barter system and grow our own crops.

Many of us have been in auto accidents, but we still drive. This is to say, flying is a necessity and we will continue doing so. I do however feel sorry for those who are afraid of flying and have never been as they are the only ones who have real reasons not to fly.

With time, we will rebuild and move on with our lives. Someone will get things back to normal sooner but we will make it.

robinbtigger Sep 12, 2001 12:34 pm

I am not scheduled to fly next until November, but I would have no hesitation getting on a plane today.

What happened yesterday has everyone's nerves on edge and some people are worrying about things that have a minute statistical chance of happening. I was just listening to ESPN and they were talking about how baseball players could be terrorist targets. sheesh.

davistev Sep 12, 2001 1:43 pm

My family have told me not to fly any US airline and I will respect their wishes. I have upcoming United flights from LHR to DTW. I will be reticketing to Air Canada for the time being.

squeakr Sep 12, 2001 2:24 pm

or a related question - would you fly a US airline on a transatlantic flight next week..?

that'smy question...and I am terrfied..


kempis Sep 12, 2001 2:32 pm

I have a domestic trip in Sweden booked on sunday and I dont look forward to it as much as I normally do.

I might also have a trip to Canada coming up in October/November but now I have decided that I will NOT connect in any US airport.

lalala Sep 12, 2001 2:35 pm

I will be flying next week on TWA to LGW. I'm less concerned about the trans atlantic portion as the sea-stl portion. I am also scheduled to fly AA the following week to FRA. I have not made any changes to my plans.

I just figure that I'll have to check my bags through to London, spend an extra 45 minutes retrieving the bag and spend an extra one hour on my return being questioned about my family, my family history and my travel due to my country of origin.


orangejjr Sep 12, 2001 2:38 pm

We are still going to TPA on 9/18 from MCI and return on 9/22. Scared, no just have some trepidation about the trip. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

runningshoes Sep 12, 2001 2:57 pm

Was supposed to be on a 07:00 out of LAX on my home, but the flight was cancelled. Will I fly in the future - yes - but less. This really opened my eyes to the priorities in life and right now I'd rather be at home with my wife and kids.

sdix Sep 12, 2001 11:46 pm

I have several overseas flights before Christmas. I'm a little nervous about those. These attacks were aimed at the US on US soil but in past attacks they have been aimed at US citizens on foreign soil. The Germans are considering cancelling Oktoberfest. Such a large gathering of people could invite trouble. What's not to stop copy cat attacks in major Euro capitals? I just don't know.....


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