Easysabre found!!! (sort of)
 

Powered by sabre, this link is pretty good. It offers a much better fare finder than any other source I know! (Yes, the link is convoluted, but it works)

http://www.fareflight.com/reservations.htm

[This message has been edited by zrs70 (edited 08-05-2001).]

I tried FareFlight.com, and used my standard (non-RTW), plain vanilla routing for Sept/Oct: BKK-NRT-LAX-EWR and return, all on UA. The system first said that the flights were invalid, which I knew they weren't, so I just retried the same flights, and the next time, it came back saying UA couldn't confirm the flights. I tried two other reservations systems, and knew the flights were available. Also, no feedback was provided during the lengthy flight selection process.

Perhaps this site works better on pure domestic (US) routes.

A nice site and many thanks for the link. I too am one of many who sadly miss the very nice complete EaasySabre listings. Also this new site was quite accurate for 2 RT's (ABE-HNL and BWI-SAN) I had previously made and re-checked again for lowered fares an hour ago.

MisterNice

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cool.gif zrs70.

I tried to register and got a message that my user name was in use, tried to log in using my old Easy Sabre password (which I haven't used since) and it worked!

Just found an even better sabre sight, and it allows us to book multiple classes and reserve and not buy! I ahd to register, and it took them 24 hours to respond with a password.

Follow this link:

http://aat.sabrebts.com

There is a note on this site. It reads: All reservations using this product will be subject to an All-Around Travel Service fee"
Is it free to only browse?

[This message has been edited by airbus320 (edited 08-06-2001).]

I called to ask just that question, airbus... answer: only if we ticket!

Go to this link to sing up:

http://www.allaroundtravel.com/reservations.shtml

Interesting -

The aat site opening screen looks exactly like my Corporate Travel site - except for the logo.

This is the reply I got from http://www.fareflight.com/reservations.htm :

THIS TRAVEL SITE IS NO LONGER ACTIVE.

PLEASE CONTACT YOUR SABRE AGENCY OR TRAVEL DEPARTMENT DIRECTLY.

THANK YOU

As far as this site is concerned then regrettably, I couldn't get to a log-in stage of it. http://aat.sabrebts.com/

Any other suggestions?

For FareFlight, you must click "Airlines" not "Web Reservations".

For aat.sabrebts.com, I applied last night and still haven't gotten a reply. I think they said 24 hours so maybe later today.

BizJet
I also used the hot link for aat.sabrebts.com and could not find a way to register. I was asked to sign in but couldn't find a place to get started. Where do I start?

You are correct, there is no place to sign up from that link. zrs70 posted the link to sign up above. Here it is again

Go to this link to sing up:

http://www.allaroundtravel.com/reservations.shtml

BizJet and zrs70--
Thanks for the hot link for signing up for Sabre BTS system. I submitted the application and just received the message welcoming me as an Inter-trip member. They promised my user ID and password tomorrow.

I still haven't gotten my password.

My password has not arrived yet either.

APPLY APPLY NO REPLY!

I got mine in within 48 hours.

Just got mine took about 96 hours, but we porbably generated a months work of apps in 2 days

My ID and password arrived late yesterday. It took about two days.

no password after 3 days!!!!

Even better source found:

http://www.travelgalileo.com/cgi-bin...oViewPage?ID=L

With this, we can build an itinerary, and then choose class of service leg by leg. It provides fast fare quotes for multiple options.

I tried a simple roundtrip lookup for United flights, specifying exact dates and times (within the hour, anyway). It wouldn't show scheduled flights anywhere near the times I asked for (even using Full Flight Search). I eventually figured out I could get the flights I wanted by selecting Multiple City, adding a bogus segment to the end of the desired itinerary (making it an open-jaw), requesting "Partially Refundable" as the cancellation penalty, replacing the bogus segment with itself, this time selecting Any (Best Fare), and finally deleting the bogus segment. Only then would it fare correctly. There didn't seem to be any way to see the fare basis or rules. To its credit, the speed is impressive, and the seat mapper is pretty good.

If you're looking for a replacement for easySABRE, this ain't it. Not even close.

zrs70, you are a real mensch for digging around for a 'replacement' for UCNXN. I did regisiter with this site in the past, so I dug out my username and password, and gave it a spin with my normal ex-BKK itineraries. I remember that in the past, it was strange that had to ally myself with a travel agent to use this engine. In any event, the speed with which the flights were returned was very good. The overall display is quite clean. The only drawback was that the flights priced out anywhere from 2x (BKK-LAX) to 5x (BKK-JFK) the normal prices in economy, although the business prices were only about 20% higher (it seemed as if the prices were based on ex-USA instead of ex-BKK, and were simply being calculated in Thai Baht).

As I noted near the top of this topic, perhaps the Galileo web version is more suited for people who fly domestically in the US.

Again, thanks for the link. I was worth another look.

There is nothing wrong with the computer. It's just that when you ask a computer to price a fare originating from a foreign country to the USA, the fare calculates it as if it is originating from the USA as the higher fare applies. You have to command it to price FROM the origin country and that you have to be able to force the command in.
The only CRS that will not add the differential fare are the ones that are based in Canada! It's some strange law that forbids Canadian based computers to fare the higher fare.

This is the message I received this afternoon. I have emailed them my feelings on their actions. How do they know how I plan to use their service??? I won't be dealing with them.


In the past few days our company has processed hundreds of logons to our BTS Product. After tracing back the referring URL to this page: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/004972.html , we were able to deduce why we had received so many in such a short period of time. This product at a high cost to All-Around Travel, is mainly maintained for our corporate accounts. In the past few days we have spent an incredible amount of resources building all of these profiles so that users can access our system. We at All-Around Travel take our customer-service based business very seriously and we would love to have you actually browse BTS and then book your travel with US, but we can not justify allowing you to ONLY browse and then cancel the itinerary. This service may seem "FREE" to you, but we actually have to pay for every log on and every time you create an itinerary... If at any time in the future you would be interested in making a booking on our high quality booking system, please contact us, we would love to have your business!

Sincerely,

All-Around Travel, Inc

As stated in our last email to you...If you are serious about using our system we would LOVE to have you as a customer....As of today at 1 pm...We have processed HUNDREDS of logons, many of which have false return email addresses as well as false names and addresses. BTS could choose to disallow us to use their system at all...This is a preventative measure to protect us...Please re-read the excerpt below...Again, we would definitely value you as an All-Around Customer!

We at All-Around Travel take our customer-service based business very seriously and we would love to have you actually browse BTS and then book your travel with US, but we can not justify allowing you to ONLY browse and then cancel the itinerary. This service may seem "FREE" to you, but we actually have to pay for every log on and every time you create an itinerary... If at any time in the future you would be interested in making a booking on our high quality booking system, please contact us, we would love to have your business!

Sincerely,

All-Around Travel, Inc


Subject: RE: NEW BTS USER from allaroundtravel.com

My response:

I am sorry to hear that you feel this way but I think you have taken the wrong approach. How do you know how I planned to use your site? I guess I will take my bookings elsewhere and will make sure not to recommend your business. Your heavy handed approach will lose you business but that is your problem not mine.

In the past few days our company has processed hundreds of logons to our BTS Product. After tracing back the referring URL to this
page: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/004972.html ,I was able to deduce why we had received so many in such a short period of time. This product at a high cost to All-Around Travel, is primarily maintained for our corporate accounts. In the past few days we have spent an incredible amount of resources building all of these profiles so that users can access our system.
We at All-Around Travel take our customer-service based business very seriously and we would love to have you actually browse BTS and then book your travel with US!! This service may seem "FREE" to you, but we actually have to pay for every log on and every time you create an itinerary...

As of today at 1 pm...We have processed HUNDREDS of logons, many of which have false return email addresses as well as false names and addresses.

If any or all of you are seriously interested in making a booking on our high quality booking system, we would love to have your business!

Sincerely,

All-Around Travel, Inc

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I just received this; the tone feels most rude! I registered, went back once to look.

From: New BTS User <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: NEW BTS USER from allaroundtravel.com
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:34:35 -0700
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0)


In the past few days our company has processed hundreds of logons to our BTS
Product. After tracing back the referring URL to this page:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/004972.html , we were able to
deduce why we had received so many in such a short period of time. This
product at a high cost to All-Around Travel, is mainly maintained for our
corporate accounts. In the past few days we have spent an incredible amount
of resources building all of these profiles so that users can access our
system.
We at All-Around Travel take our customer-service based business very
seriously and we would love to have you actually browse BTS and then book
your travel with US, but we can not justify allowing you to ONLY browse and
then cancel the itinerary. This service may seem "FREE" to you, but we
actually have to pay for every log on and every time you create an
itinerary...
If at any time in the future you would be interested in making a booking on
our high quality booking system, please contact us, we would love to have
your business!


Sincerely,


All-Around Travel, Inc

[This message has been edited by SylviaCaras (edited 08-17-2001).]

Well, now the "fareflight" site has been shut down altogether. Does anyone know of another way to access Sabre? The search capabilities there were great.

When I got the above email, I replied to it. And was immediately sent a password.