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AAaLot Jul 10, 2005 2:32 pm

Expiring miles for diff airlines
 
Do you know of a chart that shows when miles expire with no activity for:

AA
Delta
Continental
NWA
UAL
Aeroplan
Grupo Taca

ALadyNCal Jul 10, 2005 3:15 pm

Isn't it three years for DL and AA??? Maybe with all of them?

UpgradeMe Jul 10, 2005 3:25 pm


Originally Posted by AAaLot
Do you know of a chart that shows when miles expire with no activity for:
AA
Delta
Continental
NWA
UAL
Aeroplan
Grupo Taca

Chart? No.
But a check of each airline's website or a search in the relevant forum should answer the question.

the_traveler Jul 10, 2005 7:42 pm


Originally Posted by AAaLot
Do you know of a chart that shows when miles expire with no activity for:

AA
Delta
Continental
NWA
UAL
Aeroplan
Grupo Taca


AA = 3 years
DL = 3 years
CO = do not expire
NW = do not expire
UA = 3 years

The others - I do not know

jerry crump Jul 10, 2005 9:29 pm

Taca was 3 years but they just sent an email last month that made it look like it was annual expiration if you don't fly within 12 month period. I posted in the other N & S american airlines forum a question if anyone understands exactly what they are doing and got no response.


CO told me that no activity for 18 months was eligible for expiration but that they send a letter before doing anything and are much more flexable than that.

SPN Lifer Jul 11, 2005 1:07 am

This is my understanding:
  • AA - 36 months
  • Delta - 3 calendar years (to 31 Dec on or after 36 months)
  • Continental - 18 months with notice "formally," more lenient in practice
  • NWA - 36 months
  • UAL - 36 months
  • Aeroplan - ?
  • Grupo Taca - ?
The previous post about no NW expiration is wrong. "If no mileage from any source is posted to a WorldPerks member's account for three consecutive years, the account is subject to termination, including forfeiture of all accrued mileage."
http://www.nwa.com/freqfly/memrules/general.shtml

I don't know whether miles expire 36 months to the day, or to the end of the month, and don't plan to find out!

gleff Jul 11, 2005 5:30 am

The one airline whose expiration policy has always confused me is Mexicana. Any definitive insight there?

Efrem Jul 11, 2005 5:47 am


Originally Posted by gleff
The one airline whose expiration policy has always confused me is Mexicana. Any definitive insight there?

While I'm not a regular Mexicana flyer, I went to their Web site, clicked Frecuenta, then "Frequently Asked Questions" in the menu at the left, then "When does [sic] my miles expire," the third item in the second column. The answer, in full: "With Frecuenta your miles never expire."

I suppose they could change this, but it seems pretty definitive for now. Is there conflicting information somewhere else?

gleff Jul 11, 2005 8:42 am

I never quite got a definitive answer [url=http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=356421].

Other programs say miles don't expire, but that accounts can be closed due to inactivity. Someone thought this was the case with MX but I couldn't find reference to it online.

the_traveler Jul 12, 2005 9:08 am


Originally Posted by SPN Lifer
[*]NWA - 36 months

The previous post about no NW expiration is wrong.

This was taken directly from the WorldPerks T&C on their website.

3. WorldPerks miles have no expiration date. However, consistent with the general terms and conditions of the WorldPerks program, Northwest Airlines reserves the right to change the WorldPerks program at any time without notice, including imposition of expiration limits or reactivation fees. If no mileage from any source is posted to a WorldPerks member's account for three consecutive years, the account is subject to termination, including forfeiture of all accrued mileage.

I do see the last statement regarding the "3 years". The last earning of WorldPerks I had was on my flights in February 2002. I did fly on NW last October 2004, but that was on a CO award ticket - thus I did not earn either CO or NW mileage. Does this mean my 62K+ WorldPerks will disappear at the end of 2005?

CaveatEmpty Jul 12, 2005 10:28 am

Assume that NWA Rule #2 (or - pick your carrier) will ALWAYS apply -- you know the one: "We'll do as we d*mn well please."

I'd suspect the 'expiration' is economics: the ongoing printing & postage of statements & advertising to inactive accounts has to be a killer. Electronic delivery may affect that.

All you can really do is keep up with the changes, and make whatever moves seem to protect your stash, at a price ($$, time or effort) you're willing to pay -- fly, buy, etc. -- no single best answer for everybody.


Does this mean my miles will disappear .. ??
DirtyHarry: "Do ya feel lucky punk? Well? Do ya? :D
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the_traveler Jul 12, 2005 11:09 am


Originally Posted by SPN Lifer
[*]Continental - 18 months with notice "formally," more lenient in practice

From the One Pass T&C:

Mileage Expiration


Miles currently have no expiry date; however, Continental Airlines reserves the right to impose expiry limits or terminate the OnePass program, thus terminating your ability to claim rewards.


I do not see anything regarding "18 months"!

acf573 Jul 12, 2005 12:01 pm


Originally Posted by the_traveler
From the One Pass T&C:

Mileage Expiration


Miles currently have no expiry date; however, Continental Airlines reserves the right to impose expiry limits or terminate the OnePass program, thus terminating your ability to claim rewards.


I do not see anything regarding "18 months"!

It's the same issue as with NW. If you look at the T&C clause right after the one you quote (the one entitled Inactive Membership), you'll see:

If no mileage is deposited in your account for 18 consecutive months, commencing after June 1, 2001, your membership will be cancelled, and your miles may be forfeited.
So while your miles may not expire, your account can. And that's just as bad. :D

mahasamatman Jul 12, 2005 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by the_traveler
I did fly on NW last October 2004, but that was on a CO award ticket - thus I did not earn either CO or NW mileage. Does this mean my 62K+ WorldPerks will disappear at the end of 2005?

I haven't flown NW since 1996, and my miles are still in my account.

Marathon Man Jul 12, 2005 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by acf573
It's the same issue as with NW. If you look at the T&C clause right after the one you quote (the one entitled Inactive Membership), you'll see:


So while your miles may not expire, your account can. And that's just as bad. :D

BA did that to 3 friends of mine with those 10k Jaguar miles. We faxed in copies of what we had saved from the offer for them but they STILL said, Sorry, miles are gone for that same reason.

SICK.
:(MM

my advice: earn to burn. Use them and start over. Stay current and have only like 2-3 airline chains to concentrate on so you dont lose your mind.


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