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eastwest Apr 20, 2001 11:07 pm

Are pax in short supply?
 
Is it just me or are prices coming down? I am also finding some interesting webspecials out there . . . Anyone care to comment?

tom911 Apr 20, 2001 11:11 pm

There's an article on Frommers site today on exactly the subject you mention:

"Brother Can You Spare A Frequent Flyer Mile? The Airlines in Trouble, Responding with Sales for High Season. Latin America, Anyone?"
http://www.frommers.com/newsletters/today/article2.html

eastwest Apr 20, 2001 11:26 pm

So I'm not totally nuts! Thanks for the reply and the link, tom911.

Shara Apr 21, 2001 12:45 am

Yes,
You are totally nuts--You live in Alaska!! To get a good deal out of here is very hard sometimes......I shoud know, I'm in Eagle River. I have lived here all my life. Just wanted to tell you, I have been reading your posts and I am so glad to have someone so close to home. May I email you if I have a Q?

Shara

To live here is being nutty! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

eastwest Apr 21, 2001 1:06 pm


Originally posted by Shara:
Yes,
You are totally nuts--You live in Alaska!! To get a good deal out of here is very hard sometimes......I shoud know, I'm in Eagle River. I have lived here all my life. Just wanted to tell you, I have been reading your posts and I am so glad to have someone so close to home. May I email you if I have a Q?

Shara

To live here is being nutty! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


eastwest Apr 21, 2001 1:07 pm

Sure, I will be glad to answer an email or two. Send me some specific questions or city pairs that you like to travel. . .

Best regards,
-levi aka eastwest


eastwest Apr 21, 2001 1:07 pm

Sure, I will be glad to answer an email or two. Send me some specific questions or city pairs that you like to travel. . .

Best regards,
-levi aka eastwest


tom911 Apr 21, 2001 2:17 pm

I'm sort of curious about Alaska fare sales. As you don't have a Southwest-type carrier flying there, do you see good sales, or are these few and far in between?

ChanelCinq Apr 21, 2001 6:24 pm

The test will be the Northern Hemisphere summer months that are always more expensive than the other eight months of the year.

Many companies are downsizing, laying off, and cutting costs. There is definitely less business travelers in the air. My company as well as friends of mine across the country are traveling 20% of what they did 6 months ago for business.

Sydneyjb Apr 21, 2001 11:00 pm

Anc - Phx Round Trip till 9/30 $248 + tax not bad. Plus lots of FF miles on NW airlines. Better buy while it's still there.

Middle_Seat Apr 22, 2001 10:51 am


Originally posted by Sydneyjb:
Anc - Phx Round Trip till 9/30 $248 + tax not bad. Plus lots of FF miles on NW airlines. Better buy while it's still there.
Sydneyjb, you must have gotten the last one. Trying a variety of dates on Expedia doesn't get close to this bargain price.



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0524 Apr 22, 2001 10:55 am

I just paid $368 to fly JFK-LHR round-trip.

Middle_Seat Apr 22, 2001 10:56 am


Originally posted by tom911:
There's an article on Frommers site today on exactly the subject you mention:

"Brother Can You Spare A Frequent Flyer Mile? The Airlines in Trouble, Responding with Sales for High Season. Latin America, Anyone?"
http://www.frommers.com/newsletters/today/article2.html

The updated URL, good for a few more days at least, is http://www.frommers.com/newsletters/.../contents.html




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hoangb Apr 22, 2001 2:14 pm

No, you are not nuts. I recently bought a roundtrip ticket on Northwest for travel during the peak summer travel season (from end of June to mid-July) from LAX to MOntreal, Canada for $291. I used my entertainment discount and got it for $252.28. I will also earn about 5,000 freqent flyer mile for this trip.
Now, that's hard to beat.

magic111 Apr 22, 2001 6:06 pm


Now, that's hard to beat.
Okay I will give it a try. As everyone knows if the price goes down you can always get the difference as a voucher with most airlines (ba seems to have something wrong with them.) So I bought a ticket sfo-msp on nw for July last month for $308 worth of voucher from a previous bump and when the price came down I phoned yesterday and now have another voucher for $100.50
So it would seem that on ticket that cost nothing, I've get a voucher for future travel. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Middle_Seat Apr 23, 2001 3:28 pm


Originally posted by magic111:
[B]

Now, that's hard to beat.
Okay I will give it a try. As everyone knows if the price goes down you can always get the difference as a voucher with most airlines (ba seems to have something wrong with them.)B]
Until reading this, at least one person didn't know it was possible...I thought there was a $75 penalty or some such.

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Middle_Seat Apr 23, 2001 3:31 pm

[quote]Originally posted by magic111:

As everyone knows if the price goes down you can always get the difference as a voucher with most airlines (ba seems to have something wrong with them.


Until reading this, at least one person didn't know it was possible...I thought there was a $75 penalty or some such. How do you request the voucher, particularly if you purchased a ticket on the Internet? Thank you for the information!

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Warrenlm Apr 23, 2001 6:00 pm

If you spot a reduction in your fare and it is available at the moment you call reservations on the exact flights and dates you hold a purchased ticket on, most airlines will reticket you and issue a travel credit for the difference. One time I had 9 tix to be reticketed and I had the rez agent go through each to document that the lower fare was available on each flight/date before returning to the more time consuming reticketing process.

If you partially paid for your purchased tix with a customer service voucher or such, that amount does not count as part of your payment for the tix. For example, if you paid $400 for the tix and then the fare, with taxes, drops to $300, you should be able to reticket and get a $100 voucher in the mail or electronic. If you paid for that $400 ticket with $300 cash and $100 voucher, you are not due anything when the fare drops to $300.

davohuang Apr 23, 2001 7:09 pm

That's interesting. In my experience, I have been able to get a second voucher for a price drop on a ticket purchased with a voucher. Last September, I paid for a DEN-SJC-SNA RT ticket using a voucher on American, and when the price dropped, I was able to get another voucher that I used to purchase another ticket (a second DEN-SJC-SNA RT ticket). http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

magic111 Apr 23, 2001 7:38 pm

I guess it depends on what type of voucher you are using and perhaps the airline. In this case I was using a TCV from nw and the refund will come in this case as an MCO from nw. I have never had any luck with getting a refund voucher of any sort from ba when I have had a "non-refundable ticket" even when the fare reduction is available on the exact same itinerary. (flights & dates)
Also whether you are using a valid refundable voucher or cash most airlines will waive the $75 for the lower ticket if you take it as a voucher - the reason being that only about 15% of vouchers are ever resubmitted by pax. (I am sure the percentage is higher for the members of this board - but every once in a while I see a posting of someone who has forgotten for some reason or another to cash in their voucher)

robinhood Apr 24, 2001 11:43 am

Once again, Flyertalk comes to the rescue! I actually didn't know about getting vouchers back when the fare drops -- I thought you were just screwed. Anyway, to make a long story short -- I just got off the phone with a really nice rep at UA and now have $70 in vouchers due to a fare reduction. (Here's hoping they will actually show up!) Thanks guys!

yonatan Apr 24, 2001 2:28 pm

Question: Do they also waive the fees when requesting a voucher on international itineraries, or will they first deduct the $150 change free?

Yonatan

suranyi Apr 24, 2001 2:28 pm


Originally posted by hoangb:
No, you are not nuts. I recently bought a roundtrip ticket on Northwest for travel during the peak summer travel season (from end of June to mid-July) from LAX to MOntreal, Canada for $291. I used my entertainment discount and got it for $252.28. I will also earn about 5,000 freqent flyer mile for this trip.
Now, that's hard to beat.

I just bought a ticket from SFO to Montreal on US Airways for $230, with no special discount. Leaving Memorial Day weekend. I fly this route regularly and this is the cheapest I've seen it in YEARS, for late spring/summer travel.

Ed


paradocs Apr 24, 2001 5:45 pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by yonatan:
[B]Question: Do they also waive the fees when requesting a voucher on international itineraries, or will they first deduct the $150 change free?

Yonatran, I had some international tickets come down a little more that the $150 change fee this spring. Delta insisted that they would have to charge the fee and therefore it would do me no good. I asked for a voucher for the difference and they said change fee still applies. The policies across the industry seem very inconsistent to me.


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