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gleff Dec 31, 2004 3:40 am

Freddie Awards: Voting is Almost Here!
 
Voting begins January 15 and the ceremony will be held April 28
http://www.freddieawards.com/

Who offered the best bonus, best award, best award redemption, and best elite level in 2004? Which domestic or international airline is your airline of the year? Hotel of the year? How will you be voting?

dhammer53 Dec 31, 2004 7:02 am

Hopefully the Freddies will be held in New York City.

Dan

ByrdluvsAWACO Dec 31, 2004 12:18 pm

I'd like to see HP win best elite level again, but I doubt they will. They haven't improved the program at all. Hopefully, AA will win something this year.

Randy Petersen Dec 31, 2004 12:24 pm

Thanks for the early interest. it will bo interesting as always from my perspective to see where the public is heading on their "value" vote. For the last 6-7 years in the airline sector there has been a spotlight on the efforts of the low-cost carriers (which started well before the other media's sudden attraction to these carriers). I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of trend returning to the value of the larger carriers, though with the continuing financial struggles, that may never happen.

One update on the international level. This year the Freddies will have seperate voting for Europe, Middle East, Africa; Asia, Pacific and of course the Americas since there really are a different types of programs that oprate from these various regions rather than a single "international."

gleff Dec 31, 2004 1:14 pm

Restricting myself to a discussion of airlines, and North America for a moment.

I think there are huge differences within elite levels, it's almost even strange to vote on 'Best Elite Level' or program.

My own view is that the best top elite level belongs to American, followed closely by United. Certainly among programs with 3 (official) tiers. If I were giving a third-place vote for best top elite level it would go to Alaska, btw.

But if I were a first or second-tieir elite I'd rather be a member of the Northwest or America West programs I think because of their unlimited complimentary upgrades and the extent to which the programs deliver on those upgrades to all elite members and not just those at the very top.

On Best Award Redemption (again, Americas) I'd give the nod to American, Alaska, United, and Delta in that order -- fully recognizing that American got a bit tighter this year at least anecdotally. Alaska does a really good job with award availability, and has strong partnerships, but is somewhat limited in its own route network. United has gotten far more difficult to redeem an award with -- less availability (or just greater demand for the same capacity?), reducing hold times from 14 days to 3 (down from 30 days just a few years ago), and limiting redemption on LH transatlantic flights to a specific window. Nevertheless, Star Alliance awards really should put them in the running still.

Northwest and Continental are just awful at redemption on their own metal, but their partnerships allow you to redeem on carriers that actually do make awards available. So their miles are worth something. However the gutting of the Northwest chart especially this year deserves a major :td: .

I wouldn't give the award to Southwest, because while they've managed to eschew capacity controls they simply don't provide for the redemption of the kind of awards I would ever want.

Best Affinity Credit Card ought to belong to the Starwood Amex, followed by Diners Club.

I'd give Best Website to Northwest, with honorable mention to Continental for their new award availability calendar. AA might even be up there, but there's a lack of detail on some of their award rules. UA is just downright unreliable. AS and WN deserve mention for their simplicity.

Best Newsletter just isn't important to me.

Best Customer Service? I love the folks at Alaska. Continental actually deserves some small mention for finally creating an actual elite desk. No doubt Southwest offers good customer service, but I have no direct experience here.

Thoughts on Best Bonus? Nothing immediately springs to mind, but I think it's just the haze before New Year's Eve. I love United's DC Round-the-World promo, but it's too regional to win.

jimcoddington Dec 31, 2004 1:26 pm

Freddies in 2005
 
Does anyone know where the Freddies will be held in 2005? :)


Originally Posted by dhammer53
Hopefully the Freddies will be held in New York City.

Dan


fly co to see the yanks Dec 31, 2004 2:12 pm

my thought on the freddies is summed up by spg.com winning an award. period.

dhammer53 Dec 31, 2004 3:37 pm


Originally Posted by jimcoddington
Does anyone know where the Freddies will be held in 2005? :)

Jim,

Last year, Randy announced the location in late February.

Latitudes Dec 31, 2004 6:03 pm

16th or 17th?
 
Are these the 16th or 17th annual awards. The Web site seems to say both in the same paragraph. :confused:


Welcome to the official site of the 17th Annual Freddie Awards, where you can participate in the frequent traveler's answer to the Oscar, Emmy and Grammy Awards!

...

Voting for the 16th Annual Freddie Awards will begin January 15th, 2005. Stay close to this site for updates on voting and news of the awards ceremony.
Other pages on the site have this anomaly too.

gleff Dec 31, 2004 9:12 pm


Originally Posted by fly co to see the yanks
my thought on the freddies is summed up by spg.com winning an award. period.

Starwood will win lots of awards. Deservedly so. But if there's any justice in the world, a repeat of Best Website will not be one of them.

fly co to see the yanks Jan 1, 2005 12:46 am


Originally Posted by gleff
Starwood will win lots of awards. Deservedly so. But if there's any justice in the world, a repeat of Best Website will not be one of them.

i agree. and, dont get me wrong. i havent been platinum every year since i first starting staying at starwoods for nothing. they have great customer service and great properties. and, the lurker rocks.

but, almost everything to do with electronic communications is a definite lowlight for starwood (web site, emails from properties returned despite having links to ask questions, etc.). the fact that spg.com didn't win worst web site (and, in fact, won best website) is truly amazing (and, not in a good way).

cordelli Jan 1, 2005 9:53 am

I don't care where they are held, I just hope we get invited again. :D

It totally amazes me to see how many people use the award in their advertising.

Marysunshine Jan 2, 2005 8:51 am


Originally Posted by dhammer53
Hopefully the Freddies will be held in New York City.

Dan

Speaking as a New Yorker I think the reason there was such a great turnout last year was precisely because NY was convenient for so many folks. I'm with you Dan-------NEW YORK NEW YORK NEW YORK ^ ^ ^

gleff Jan 2, 2005 9:06 am

Of course New Yorkers seem passionate about a desire to keep the Freddies in New York, but I will note that:

* Freddies in COS were alot of fun, and Randy & Co were exceptionally gracious hosts at the House of Miles. Wyndham did a fabulous job, too.

* We're FTers for goodness sakes, what's wrong with a little travel to an event? ;)

* The location of the event isn't really designed to attract us though Randy has been very generous in inviting us to participate and even picking up our tab. How neat is it that the traveling public gets to participate not just in voting but in being present for the awards? And mingling with the program staff? It's a thrill, truly, and one I think we all ought to appreciate - no matter where Randy decides to hold the event.

A big ^ ^ ^ to the sponsors as well who make it possible!

dhammer53 Jan 2, 2005 10:02 am

Shameless plus for the 5th annual dhammer53 Brooklyn Reality Tour. :o


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