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QuietLion Sep 25, 2000 9:14 pm

Just to protect the sanctity of the game... let me make a small correction. Those were NBA basketball officials who laundered their First Class tickets and failed to report the income, not baseball umpires. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

doc Sep 25, 2000 9:27 pm

Yes, basketball!
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/000787.html

Boomer Sep 25, 2000 9:56 pm

Who said anything about baseball?

Tino Sep 26, 2000 6:22 am

Sounds risky, even for a veteran scammer like myself. My personal favorite is the hotel gift certificate scam. (buy them in advance for a discount, use them as cash on checkout)

I've heard that frequent flyer prison is pretty rough. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

LAX 1K Sep 26, 2000 10:15 am

The one situation I would consider legitimate would be any airfare that was charged to you.. but did not get expensed (ie got a voucher) and then you applied that voucher to a future flight... since you paid for a voucher that was used as cash.. my company allows this... (usually because the voucher comes from a cancelled flight due to a client).


freefaller12k Sep 26, 2000 1:19 pm


Originally posted by Tino:

I've heard that frequent flyer prison is pretty rough. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

LOL, I guess you have to sit in an incredibly uncomfortable chair and subsist on nothing but peanuts and Dixie cups of water....


belle3388 Sep 26, 2000 2:09 pm

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif make that an uncomfortable MIDDLE chair!

kyklin Sep 26, 2000 5:23 pm

Make that UA's mustard pretzels!

LAX 1K Sep 26, 2000 5:48 pm

Hey stop knocking on UA's first class snack on the Shuttle.... I loved them on my 2 Hour LAX-PDX flights.. more pretzels anyone?

ozstamps Sep 26, 2000 11:59 pm

I think that is a vicious lie about the Sh!ttle pretzels ... just took a couple flights in "First" on UA to LAS and things are NOT what they used to be. They are now a tiny pack of some other lightweight thing but are called something other than pretzels now, (savoury shapes?) probably due to all the lapooning here on FT! I recall they were in a mix of colours?



"and if you're reimbursed for any one type of coupon/voucher/miles etc, the reimbursment is taxable income".
Who ever from those above would actually declare a bumpeee $400 voucher payment to IRS or your employer I wonder if your flight got YOU home 3 hours later on a Friday evening????? Lets see how Sqeeeeky Kleeeeen the responses to that one are!



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Traveller Sep 27, 2000 11:17 pm

I have thought about doing this (using FF miles for business travel), until an employee of my company got fired because he he did exactly this. We don't know how he got caught, he either bragged or the company monitored Amex statements against expense reports.

This employee in question was given a second chance. He paid back approx. $14,000 to the company, but then got caught doing this same thing again!

Since then, I have never considered doing this scam. I value my job too much. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Andy2 Sep 28, 2000 7:17 am

These posts have been very negative regarding the use of frequent flier miles for business travel. There are some possibilities that benefits everyone. They are best used if you work for a small company that doesn't have rigid rules. For instance a one-day trip with no Saturday night stay might cost $1,500. If an employee uses miles he might be willing to only be reimbursed $750, effectively selling his miles at a reasonable price. If the client or customer is not willing to pay $1,500 for the travel, everyone comes out ahead.


Spiff Sep 28, 2000 8:16 am

Can you send the IRS some Delta Dollars instead of cash in April?? Or some $25 off coupons? That would rock.


Who ever from those above would actually declare a bumpeee $400 voucher payment to IRS or your employer I wonder if your flight got YOU home 3 hours later on a Friday evening????? Lets see how Sqeeeeky Kleeeeen the responses to that one are!

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mauld Sep 28, 2000 9:13 am

What about this: Last weekend, returning from a legitimate business trip from LAS, I was able to take an earlier flight home. My original ticket was $1092 (full Y--which allowed me an immediate upgrade to FC). There was availibiltiy on the earlier flight at a much cheaper rate ($330--with seats still open in FC that as a Platinum OP member I could have immediately). She then told me she would refund the diffence as a credit to me of 762 CO credit. Legally, is this mine or should I use it on my next business trip, or give it to my company????

Tino Sep 28, 2000 11:56 am

Legally it's for whoever paid for the ticket. If you haven't expensed it yet, you just send in a request for the lower amount.

Charging the company the higher fare and pocketing the difference is clearly illegal, and there is precedent to back it up.


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