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deejboram Apr 28, 2007 10:49 am

I just ordered 13 weeks of WSJ (Mon-Sat) from United.com for 1,200 miles. United.com had these issues valued at $84.50

Backkom Apr 28, 2007 10:57 am

Best credit card rewards/points/miles for canada
 
I will be moving to Vancouver, Canada soon and would like to know what the best credit card deal there is out there right now.
I am Flying blue gold and have an AMEX Air France gold as I am living in Paris.
I basically think the best would be to register for a CC allowing me to accrue points which I can then transfer into free flights/free nights.

I had also heard that the best CC is the Starwood Preferred AMEX for the US. Does this card also exist for Canada?

I would appreciate any help.

mooper Apr 28, 2007 11:02 am


Originally Posted by deejboram (Post 7654712)
I just ordered 13 weeks of WSJ (Mon-Sat) from United.com for 1,200 miles. United.com had these issues valued at $84.50

How could they be valued at $84.50 when you can buy 54 weeks for several dollars less (directly from WSJ.com)?

If you value your miles at 2 cents each, you paid $24 for 13 weeks.

itsme Jun 14, 2007 8:58 am

thru USAir DM?...or AmEx MR?
 
Can WSJ subscriptions be had for US Dividend Miles? If so, how does one go about it, since I can't find anything on the US website?

How about with AmEx MR?

BTW, I agree with mooper that UA's offer of 13 weeks WSJ for 1200 MP isn't all that great, since $79 buys 54 weeks directly from WSJ. So just a little over 1.5 cpm return. But if the miles will otherwise be "orphaned," then it is a great use of them.

mellowg Jun 14, 2007 6:36 pm

eBay has always had the best value for magazine/newspaper subscriptions, but if you're talking about orphaned miles, then it's an entirely different story - magazine subscriptions are the best way to use them.

alanh Jun 14, 2007 8:11 pm

It appears that neither US Airways (which used to allow purchases through Points.com) and Amex MR still off the WSJ.

itsme Jun 15, 2007 3:57 pm


Originally Posted by mellowg (Post 7904843)
eBay has always had the best value for magazine/newspaper subscriptions, but if you're talking about orphaned miles, then it's an entirely different story - magazine subscriptions are the best way to use them.

One can get a cheaper rate on the WSJ by going through eBay than by going to WSJ's own website? If so, how?

I want to start an WSJ subscription and had thought that this would be a reasonably good use of miles. But with the WSJ offering 52+ weeks for $79, I don't know which, if any, use of miles or points is a better deal than going directly to WSJ. If I were to use UA miles, it would cost me 7600 for a year, and since I value my UA miles at > 1.0 cpm, that doesn't appeal. I could convert AmEx MR into airline miles, but even with DL only requiring 3300 miles for 38 weeks of WSJ, which comes out to 4500+ miles for one year, that isn't an exceptionally cheap opportunity.

Are miles/points deals for The Economist attractive? I haven't looked for them yet, because I am not as interest in that publication as in the WSJ. I do receive Forbes, which I paid for with US miles a good while ago, and don't remember with how many, or when the subscription started.

Tenacious Sep 18, 2007 1:12 pm

Murdoch making the case for free WSJ online...
 
News Corp Chief Executive Rupert Murdoch said on Tuesday that he was leaning toward making online Wall Street Journal free, but had made no decision yet.
Murdoch, whose company has sealed a deal to buy Journal publisher Dow Jones & Co for $5.6 billion, rejected criticism that a free WSJ.com would hurt the newspaper.

http://www.news.com/Murdoch+making+t...tag=ne.fd.mnbc

itsme Sep 18, 2007 1:26 pm


Originally Posted by Tenacious (Post 8423694)
News Corp Chief Executive Rupert Murdoch said on Tuesday that he was leaning toward making online Wall Street Journal free, but had made no decision yet.
Murdoch, whose company has sealed a deal to buy Journal publisher Dow Jones & Co for $5.6 billion, rejected criticism that a free WSJ.com would hurt the newspaper.

http://www.news.com/Murdoch+making+t...tag=ne.fd.mnbc

Yes, I read something about this yesterday. (On a similar note, NYT may be dropping TimeSelect, so could be no charge to read that paper online.) I still like to pick up a "real" newspaper at my front door and hold it in front of me while I read it.

biggestbopper Sep 18, 2007 3:17 pm

The NY Times has announced that full access on the 'Net will be free as of midnight, Sept. 18, 2007.

By the way, several bloggers have suggested that this freeing of net access is bad news for the future of newspapers. @:-)

I like getting the paper in real form every morning. Just hope I can continue to do it.

Yahoo news just doesn't cut it! :td:

itsme Sep 18, 2007 6:01 pm


Originally Posted by biggestbopper (Post 8424488)
The NY Times has announced that full access on the 'Net will be free as of midnight, Sept. 18, 2007.

By the way, several bloggers have suggested that this freeing of net access is bad news for the future of newspapers. @:-)

I like getting the paper in real form every morning. Just hope I can continue to do it.

Yahoo news just doesn't cut it! :td:

You (and I) are probably signaling "advanced" age with our stated preferences for actual newsprint in hand rather than getting it online, notwithstanding the many advantages that online affords. (My wife won't let me save old newspapers, and infinitely easier to go back online than with the non-electronic.) I was disappointed that the NYT reduced its page size a while ago, though have gotten over it.

Tenacious Sep 19, 2007 10:47 am

Murdoch's Choice: Paid or Free for WSJ.com?
 
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

September 19, 2007

News Corp. Chairman Rupert Murdoch hasn't completed his purchase of Dow Jones & Co., publisher of The Wall Street Journal, but already Mr. Murdoch and Dow Jones executives are debating a key strategic question: Should the Journal fall in line with the rest of the industry and make its 11-year-old paid-subscription Web site free?
Mr. Murdoch has been dropping hints that he is contemplating doing just that when he takes over, raising the idea in interviews before he clinched the deal and more openly in recent meetings with top Journal editors and Dow Jones Chief Executive Richard F. Zannino.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article...997631717.html

itsme Sep 19, 2007 1:11 pm

Well, so long as they publish a paper edition, those who like to hold it in their hands, as I do, will have a good use for odd amounts of "orphan" miles. (What way other than through subscriptions to get value for small, odd lots of miles?)

allset2travel Sep 19, 2007 2:02 pm

I welcome the move by WSJ. About 90% of my daily reading has been of the online version. Its neat that you can save articles and charts for reading later without a pile of old paper around.

schistosomiasis Sep 20, 2007 4:19 pm

any way to *renew* a WSJ subscription with frequent flyer orphan miles? Can I just type in the same address and assume that they'll add on the length of the new subscription- anyone try this before? Does this also work for the economist?

ranles Sep 22, 2007 2:55 pm

I used orphan miles with Delta for the Economist (original subscription).
I have used same for the WSJ twice now. Each time I let them lapse and then resubscribed. I do not know a way to just extend one. Perhaps these are "deals" cut between the publisher and the airlines to eventually get you to put up money for the extention. I think so.

biggestbopper Sep 22, 2007 6:17 pm


Originally Posted by itsme (Post 8425409)
You (and I) are probably signaling "advanced" age with our stated preferences for actual newsprint in hand rather than getting it online, notwithstanding the many advantages that online affords. (My wife won't let me save old newspapers, and infinitely easier to go back online than with the non-electronic.) I was disappointed that the NYT reduced its page size a while ago, though have gotten over it.

Actual print has advantages, too. For example, I can read the WSJ at Peet's cafe drinking excellent coffee even though there is no wifi access there. And, I can scan the stories much more thoroughly and quickly in paper.

As to saving and searching articles--imaging and online searching really are faster. But, for coffee shop reading, give me newsprint. :)

As for advanced age. you and I are advanced, but it is not in age. :D

itsme Sep 22, 2007 9:47 pm


Originally Posted by biggestbopper (Post 8446881)
Actual print has advantages, too. For example, I can read the WSJ at Peet's cafe drinking excellent coffee even though there is no wifi access there. And, I can scan the stories much more thoroughly and quickly in paper.

As to saving and searching articles--imaging and online searching really are faster. But, for coffee shop reading, give me newsprint. :)

As for advanced age. you and I are advanced, but it is not in age. :D

I thought you were going to say something about the use of actual print to line the bird cage, wrap fish, etc.

I have no experience of Peet's, but when the founder died recently, his obits credited him with being the connossieur of coffee and expert on roasting that Starbucks and others all were deeply indebted to. Are you in CA, WA, or somewhere else that Starbucks doesn't own?

As for "advanced age," when does that come? I've heard you take half the number of years until you would reach 100 and add that to your current age to define what is "old."

Irrover Sep 25, 2007 9:21 am


Originally Posted by itsme (Post 8447604)
I have no experience of Peet's, but when the founder died recently, his obits credited him with being the connossieur of coffee and expert on roasting that Starbucks and others all were deeply indebted to. Are you in CA, WA, or somewhere else that Starbucks doesn't own?

Although Starbucks pretty much does run CA, for the 1 Peet's in our town their are 7 Starbucks, 1 Coffee Bean and 2 local shops in a 2 mile radius. At least we do have a choice. Just bring in a Dunkin'....

Tenacious Nov 13, 2007 9:48 am

Murdoch: WSJ.com Expected to Be Free...
 
ADELAIDE, Australia (AP) -- News Corp. Chairman Rupert Murdoch said Tuesday he intends to make access to The Wall Street Journal's Web site free, trading subscription fees for anticipated ad revenue.
"We are studying it and we expect to make that free, and instead of having one million (subscribers), having at least 10 million-15 million in every corner of the earth," Murdoch said.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071113/news_....v=5&printer=1

itsme Nov 13, 2007 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by Tenacious (Post 8722715)
ADELAIDE, Australia (AP) -- News Corp. Chairman Rupert Murdoch said Tuesday he intends to make access to The Wall Street Journal's Web site free, trading subscription fees for anticipated ad revenue.
"We are studying it and we expect to make that free, and instead of having one million (subscribers), having at least 10 million-15 million in every corner of the earth," Murdoch said.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071113/news_....v=5&printer=1

So when is online availability supposed to start? In the meantime, I hope to use more miles to start a new subscription to take the place of the 13-week one that just expired.

ajlee7 Mar 30, 2008 5:59 pm

I was going to redeem my UA or AA miles for a WSJ subscription. However, I do not see this as an option on either site. Can someone tell me if WSJ is an option with another FF program? And do you think not having on AA and UA is just a temporary omission? Thanks.

the_traveler Mar 31, 2008 8:05 am


Originally Posted by ajlee7 (Post 9491442)
I was going to redeem my UA or AA miles for a WSJ subscription. However, I do not see this as an option on either site. Can someone tell me if WSJ is an option with another FF program? And do you think not having on AA and UA is just a temporary omission? Thanks.

WSJ IS on UA - it is listed as "THE Wall Street Journal"!

Although it is not a true FFP, you can also find WSJ on Amtrak AGR. On UA, you get 6/$, but on AGR, you get 20/$!

itsme Mar 31, 2008 9:13 pm


Originally Posted by the_traveler (Post 9494004)
WSJ IS on UA - it is listed as "THE Wall Street Journal"!

Although it is not a true FFP, you can also find WSJ on Amtrak AGR. On UA, you get 6/$, but on AGR, you get 20/$!

Perhaps I'm obtuse, but I don't understand, "On UA, you get 6/$, but on AGR, you get 20/$." Are you referring to how many miles/points it takes to get x number of weeks of the WSJ, or what? Please explain.

ajlee7 Apr 1, 2008 5:17 am


Originally Posted by the_traveler (Post 9494004)
WSJ IS on UA - it is listed as "THE Wall Street Journal"!

Although it is not a true FFP, you can also find WSJ on Amtrak AGR. On UA, you get 6/$, but on AGR, you get 20/$!

Hi, I get the following message when I redeem miles, select newspaper subscription, and enter my zip code on UA MP: "No Newspapers available for the selection". I do not see any selection for WSJ for AA Aadvantage.

the_traveler Apr 1, 2008 8:07 am


Originally Posted by itsme (Post 9498217)
Perhaps I'm obtuse, but I don't understand, "On UA, you get 6/$, but on AGR, you get 20/$." Are you referring to how many miles/points it takes to get x number of weeks of the WSJ, or what? Please explain.

Each partner may or may not have different rates of earning for the same item for each FFP. As an example, WSJ using UA earns 6/$, but WSJ using AGR earns 20/$. Another example is Circuit City, using CO earns 3/$, using AGR earns 1/$ and UA 1.5/$.

BTW: If you get WSJ using UA, the "special offer" is 1 year for $99, but if you get WSJ using AGR, the "special offer" is 1 year for $79!

Originally Posted by ajlee7 (Post 9499508)
Hi, I get the following message when I redeem miles, select newspaper subscription, and enter my zip code on UA MP: "No Newspapers available for the selection". I do not see any selection for WSJ for AA Aadvantage.

I don't know your location, but if I may guess it may be due to 1) you're in AK or HI (WSJ is only available in the continental US) or 2) there are no printing plants near you (so they can not get "today's" edition to you timely).

I don't know about AA. That is one of the FFPs that I don't belong to.

itsme Apr 1, 2008 9:00 am


Originally Posted by the_traveler (Post 9500164)
Each partner may or may not have different rates of earning for the same item for each FFP. As an example, WSJ using UA earns 6/$, but WSJ using AGR earns 20/$. Another example is Circuit City, using CO earns 3/$, using AGR earns 1/$ and UA 1.5/$.

BTW: If you get WSJ using UA, the "special offer" is 1 year for $99, but if you get WSJ using AGR, the "special offer" is 1 year for $79!

I don't know your location, but if I may guess it may be due to 1) you're in AK or HI (WSJ is only available in the continental US) or 2) there are no printing plants near you (so they can not get "today's" edition to you timely).

I don't know about AA. That is one of the FFPs that I don't belong to.

OK, I think you are talking about paying $$$ for the subscriptions and getting miles/points for doing so. ajlee7 wanted to know about using miles for the subscription, which I think a much better option. The number of miles/points to be gained by subscribing is pretty small.

ajlee7 Apr 1, 2008 7:18 pm


Originally Posted by itsme (Post 9500477)
OK, I think you are talking about paying $$$ for the subscriptions and getting miles/points for doing so. ajlee7 wanted to know about using miles for the subscription, which I think a much better option. The number of miles/points to be gained by subscribing is pretty small.

That's correct. I am looking to redeem miles for a WSJ subscription. I live in the NY Tri State area so I am close to the print factory. I guess they took it off the list. :(

the_traveler Apr 2, 2008 6:34 pm

Sorry! :( :(

guschwa Apr 3, 2008 9:45 am

how long does it take for WSJ subsription with ff miles?
 
I have always subscribed with Delta or UA miles and never had to wait longer than 2 or 3 weeks for the WSJ to arrive at my doorsteps.
This time I used AAdvantage miles and 7 weeks after miles were deducted still no Journal. Customer support is almost non existend and I have gotten quotes of as much as 17 weeks.
I would sure like to find out where the problem is, airline or WSJ?
If it's the WSJ they sure ar'nt telling.
Could it have something to do with Rupert Murdoch? Maybe miles subscriptions are not profitable for them?

itsme Apr 3, 2008 12:11 pm


Originally Posted by guschwa (Post 9512875)
...Could it have something to do with Rupert Murdoch? Maybe miles subscriptions are not profitable for them?

Don't know about what is and what isn't profitable for the parties to those deals, that is the airline FFPs and the WSJ, but isn't the WSJ planning to give it away free online? Or have I misunderstood their intentions and they only intend to do what they are doing now, that is to put some, but far from all of their content online. Anyone know? (I will still prefer to hold the paper in my hands to reading it online.)

Will try to find the WSJ offer on UA, but does anyone happen to know the details, that is the number of miles for how many weeks? I seem to recall looking into it in the past and concluding that while it was a reasonable way to use miles, it wasn't a killer return on the miles.

Also, I'd rather burn some US or CO miles. Anyone know if all those FFPs offer WSJ options? And that magazine service that brokers miles for magazine deals, are they still around? I received Forbes for 1 year through them in a very good deal, but when I went back to look at their list of magazines for miles, I didn't see Forbes still there, and what they did offer was mostly junk.

planeluvr Apr 3, 2008 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by ajlee7 (Post 9491442)
I was going to redeem my UA or AA miles for a WSJ subscription. However, I do not see this as an option on either site. Can someone tell me if WSJ is an option with another FF program? And do you think not having on AA and UA is just a temporary omission? Thanks.

Mags For Miles for US has the WSJ.

mooper Apr 5, 2008 7:14 pm

Other than portability reasons or sheer habit, I don't think there is really a legit argument to be made that print has benefits over online. For the publishers, it is a no brainer now that Google can convert small relevant text ads into revenue far better than two years ago. The revenues FT makes from the AdSense ads, I assure you, is mind-numbing.

itsme Apr 6, 2008 9:01 am


Originally Posted by mooper (Post 9524873)
Other than portability reasons or sheer habit, I don't think there is really a legit argument to be made that print has benefits over online...

Right, portability and "sheer habit" are legitimate arguments for print over online. Ad revenues are not my concern as an end user rather than producer.

Mul Apr 6, 2008 11:17 am


Originally Posted by itsme (Post 9513733)

Will try to find the WSJ offer on UA, but does anyone happen to know the details, that is the number of miles for how many weeks? I seem to recall looking into it in the past and concluding that while it was a reasonable way to use miles, it wasn't a killer return on the miles.

Not online, but by phone..
call 1-800- 961-8723
Say "order magazine"
Say "yes" you have the order form
Say "your UA Mileage plus #"
Say "VNJ" as the offer code on the order form
Say "The Wall Street Journal" to order the newspaper

3,300 miles for 230 issues

ajlee7 Apr 6, 2008 7:31 pm


Originally Posted by Mul (Post 9527230)
Not online, but by phone..
call 1-800- 961-8723
Say "order magazine"
Say "yes" you have the order form
Say "your UA Mileage plus #"
Say "VNJ" as the offer code on the order form
Say "The Wall Street Journal" to order the newspaper

3,300 miles for 230 issues

Thanks. The old fashion phone method worked. I'll post back when I receive my WSJ subscription.

dkelly1110 Apr 6, 2008 9:49 pm

230 issues of the Journal for 1700 USAir miles I had sitting around.

Tenacious Apr 8, 2008 12:08 pm


Originally Posted by Mul (Post 9527230)
Not online, but by phone..
call 1-800- 961-8723
Say "order magazine"
Say "yes" you have the order form
Say "your UA Mileage plus #"
Say "VNJ" as the offer code on the order form
Say "The Wall Street Journal" to order the newspaper

3,300 miles for 230 issues

Thanks! I would have never thought that.

cak144 Apr 22, 2008 5:06 pm

Has anyone gotten their subscription started yet with this phone redemption? With the old online redemption, my subscription would start in only a few days.

Tenacious Apr 23, 2008 9:40 am

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