non-refundable, non-transferable, unchangeable tkts....
 

once purchased, why cant the miles immediately credited to the FF account since flown or not flown, the ticket is yours no matter what?

Most tickets (even non refundable) you can apply the value (less any change fee's) torwards other tickets/routings. There would be no way to determine how many miles to put into your account until the ticket has been used.

guess i was thinking deltas escape plan tkts, or those that r non-applicable to future tkts....

Airlines only credit you with miles actually flown. No-shows don't give you any miles.

i know, but since u have already paid for it... why not? what have the airlines got to lose? just like a product, u purchase it, it is yours, right?
actually, for those cheap fares, i dont mind paying for them and get the miles not having to actually fly... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
(both the airline and the passenger win http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif)

belle3388,
You don't mind paying???
You mean your company is paying, it's not coming out of your pocket.
And please, can't you post with normal writing instead of that stupid "i" and "u" pigeon English??

belle3388, my dear, The rule has always been that those who use "u" for you, "i" for I and "r" for are have to fly to get the miles. No exceptions.

no, dont mind paying to get the miles at all so dont have to do the mileage or segment run... have not worked for a company since 1981, quit self-employment since 1996...
and yes, every single ticket is out of my own pocket....

misstree

It is not proper to begin a sentence with "and"

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

TW

[This message has been edited by Tolarian Wind (edited 07-09-2000).]

What does the airline have to gain?

We do not make the rules, but if we want to play the game we must obey.

No exceptions for poor grammer, or the self-employed.

quietlion, the airline gets paid for the seat, but does not have to transport a passenger, hence less work for the FA... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

e.g. there is a DL flight ATL-LAX-ATL for $198.00 RT this wknd, escape plan, if the tkt is booked and being confirmed on the phone, it is SOLD, non refundable, nontransferable, unchangeable....

since the tkt is forever useless if not used as booked anyway, it would be nice (for me, at least) to be able to purchase the tkt, get the 3000(?)miles and not have to fly the route....
this may also qualify as one of the most stupid/embarrasing ways to get miles??? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

perhaps this is limited to only deltas escape plan tkts, because any other web fares tkts may be credited for future purchase, and in that case, this wont work....

sorry for posting at the wrong site.... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

[This message has been edited by belle3388 (edited 07-09-2000).]

Well, the airlines do not see a ticket as a commodity that can be purchased, but rather as a contract for a service. In short, that is why fares come with so many rules.

belle3388, my dear, poor child:

You are attempting to use reason and logic, you must never forget what we are talking about here, an AIRLINE!

A couple of other points, perhaps obvious but I think at least worth mentioning -

1) Many tickets are refundable and most are at least exchangeable. Therefore, there is a good chance they won't be flown exactly as purchased. It would not make sense to award miles to these tickets before they are flown, and it would be extraordinarily complicated to award miles at the time of purchase to one kind of ticket but not to others.

2) You could always go to the airport and check-in for your outbound flights and at least get those miles.

3) If you just want to buy your miles, that can be done in other ways for (typically) 2 cents/mile. For your roundtrip ATL/LAX/ATL (which is actually about 4000 miles), you could just purchase those miles for about $80, less than half of the $198 fare you quoted.

[This message has been edited by JerryFF (edited 07-09-2000).]