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Ken Jun 27, 2000 12:28 pm

RTW Ticketing
 
Does anyone have any comments/experience with RTW ticketing? My wife and I are planning a trip for next summer. We would like to, of course, maximize the miles and usually fly Delta as we are in Atlanta, but would consider anything else that makes sense. I know that British Air has RTW tix, but do not know much else. We would like to do an East-to-West route with Amsterdam,Bali,Tokyo, Fiji being our must-do's.Any comments/tips would be appreciated. Thanks.

Ken

Rudi Jun 27, 2000 12:58 pm

Under the the oneworld and the StarAlliance forum you find everything you want to know about their respectiv rtw-tickets - also the links to a fare-comparison-sheet (by contries of origin)..

Rudi Jun 27, 2000 1:05 pm

rtw-price-comparison sheets:

oneworld: http://www.geocities.com/osointer/oneworld.htm ©by hsi.chang

StarAlliance: http://www.informationlab.com/rtw.htm ©by Dorian

Gaza Jun 27, 2000 2:25 pm

Ken

What you are trying to achieve can be done on *A's RTW ticket. I have put together a possible routing based on your "musts".

ATL to IAD - UA
IAD to AMS - UA
AMS to SIN - SQ
SIN to DPS (Bali) - SQ
DPS to SIN - SQ
SIN to NRT (Tokyo Narita) - SQ or NH
NRT to AKL (Auckland) - NZ
AKL to NAN (Fiji Nadi) - NZ
NAN to LAX - NZ
LAX to ATL - UA

*A offer four types of RTW tickets all based on mileage:-

Starlite - 26,000 miles - is only available in Economy. The other fares - 29,000 miles, 34,000 miles and 38,000 miles - are available in First and Biz.

The routing I have given above totals 30,638 miles. Depending on your budget you may want to rethink your "musts" and get under 29,000 or use the extra 3362 miles of the 34,000 ticket to take in some other locations. From Fiji it is possible to use Air NZ to reach Tahiti or some other South Pacific Islands. Another alternative is to fly from NRT to Sydney and from there to Auckland.

I hope this helps.

[This message has been edited by Gaza (edited 06-27-2000).]

bdschobel Jun 27, 2000 2:36 pm

Ken,

The Delta comment in your original post seems to have gone unnoticed. I am also a loyal Delta flyer, and I have tried on at least four occasions to book long international trips as RTW using Delta and its RTW partners, Singapore and Swissair (yes, still!). Unfortunately, it's difficult to get to lots of desirable places. And Delta's RTW arrangements are very strict about no upgrades, even on Delta flights, which makes no sense to me. Last but not least, in four calls to Delta's special RTW desk, I have encountered rude and uncooperative reservations agents. I can't explain it, I just report the experience!

In summary, you would be wise to go with other airlines.

Bruce

Gaza Jun 27, 2000 4:22 pm

Didn't ignore Delta comment, just could not see how he could achieve his "musts" by using them and their partners.

leroy11 Jun 27, 2000 4:30 pm

My understanding is that the SR / SQ / DL RTW is one of the most price-competitive out there. PLUS it includes two of the best airlines in the world (I'll let you decide which they are!! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif)

Rudi Jun 27, 2000 4:30 pm

the 'cheapest' fare StarLite is unfortunately not offered for trips starting in N-America.

Mvic Jun 27, 2000 5:08 pm

Don't know if it helps but BA has direct London-Atlanta flights twice a day.

jamiel Jun 27, 2000 5:36 pm

Find a comprehensive library with Consumer Reports Travel Letter from August 1998 (unfortunately comprehensive, library and Atlanta don't go together). They have the most extensive report on RTW that I have seen.

Basically there are the *A and 1W mileage based tickets, and two/three airline combinations (DL, SR, SQ being among them) which are somewhat cheaper. The two/three airline combinations have two broad price ranges--one for North Atlantic/Pacific and a different/more expensive one for South Atlantic/Pacific (essentially including South Africa and/or Australia).

Fiji makes this a "South Pacific" trip.

My advice:

1. Read FT and if you can find it, the CRTL story.

2. Try to find an OAG (Official Airline Guide). I know that Atl/Fulton County Public Library doesn't have it. With it, you can look up the cities and see what airlines they have in common.

3. Find a combination of airlines that covers your cities. Remember that flights within Europe are fairly cheap if bought in advance (i.e. if one combination takes care of your Asia needs but doesn't get you to AMS, take it and get from wherever you end up gateway-wise in Europe to AMS. You can leave open jaws in RTW ticketing.

4. If you end up going with *A, and don't have a travel agent you want to use, I can recommend Elizabeth Beavers at the United City Ticket office at the Sheraton-Lenox (right in the lobby across fm Lenox Square). She's terrific.

5. If you do it yourself, the protocol is you call the airline (say DL). You get to the international reservationists, then say "I want a RTW ticket". They then take your dates and cities, give you a record locator, and tell you that it is going "to the RTW desk" or "to the rate desk". 24 hours later you can call back and find out the results. You then can tweak the dates/particulars, and resubmit. You usually can't talk directly to the RTW specialists, but this system works pretty well.

Good luck--please email me if u need help as I'm in ATL also.

jl


Ken Jun 28, 2000 9:13 am

Thanks for the help. Gaza, thanks for the effort, but we really want to stay with Delta. I think that the benefits will pay off for us later. My wife nor I fly for business so we rack up our mile with our vacations and this seems like a golden opportunity. Jamiel, I'll try to locate that article and start there. It does seem, however, that due to Delta's limited partners at this time, that it might be more difficult than I thought. Thanks all.
Ken

hsi.chang Jun 28, 2000 9:28 am


Originally posted by Ken:
we really want to stay with Delta
Shouldn't the new Skyteam alliance have a RTW fare ? Quick glance at their web site shows that this alliance will service all of your interested destination. Call Delta, and if you do find out if they have a Skyteam RTW fare, post them here.


SJC2ISP Jun 28, 2000 9:47 am

Ken

Presently Fiji is in political turmoil. The elected Prime Minister and his ministers are under arrest and some rebels have power. I would advice not to visit the island right now. Though they should be treating tourists well, who knows how the next government may view Americans?

Ken Jun 28, 2000 11:25 am

It's funny that you mention the problems in Fiji. I read the the tourist industry has been really suffering right now because of it. Once it resolves itself, I bet there will be some great deals there for a nice vacation. We have our eye on that for any deals in the near future. The same thing happened with leisure travel to Turkey after that earthquake a while back.

BostonBoy Jun 28, 2000 5:32 pm


four calls to Delta's special RTW desk
Even though I think the three-airline SR/SQ/DL RTW package is extremely inconvenient, compared to the many airlines of Star and oneworld, for Ken, I do have a RTW coming up that would be perfect for this combo.

Can you please post or e-mail the Delta RTW desk so I may call them?

Also, can you earn SkyMiles on a DL-booked RTW with travel on SQ/SR, even though you can't normal earn miles on these carriers?


5. If you do it yourself, the protocol is you call the airline (say DL). You get to the international reservationists, then say "I want a RTW ticket". They then take your dates and cities, give you a record locator, and tell you that it is going "to the RTW desk" or "to the rate desk". 24 hours later you can call back and find out the results. You then can tweak the dates/particulars, and resubmit. You usually can't talk directly to the RTW specialists, but this system works pretty well.
Not so sure if it is like this anymore. American has a dedicated RTW desk for oneworld RTWs. You have to wait a while since it is only staffed by a handful of agents and each customer takes a long time (I was on the line talking to an agent in excess of an hour), but the agents are very helpful and not at all rushed.

Apparently from bdshobel, Delta has a RTW phone desk too. I have no experience with Star in this matter.


Find a comprehensive library with Consumer Reports Travel Letter from August 1998 (unfortunately comprehensive, library and Atlanta don't go together). They have the most extensive report on RTW that I have seen.
I have many CRTLs saved, but unfortunately I don't think I was subscribed at that time. If I was, I'd be happy to photo copy it and send it to Ken and whoever else. Sorry http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

TOTAL OMNI!! I have discontinued by subscription with CRTL several months ago. It appeared to me that it went to a heavy-leisure travel base from its business-travel base. It used to have great stories for business travelers and stuff, but now it is very leisure-travel oriented. For example, how to get deals on "adventure trips" and cheap airfare, etc. Coincidentally or maybe not so, this change appeared to happen after Ed Perkin (editor) left to join the Assoc. of Travel Agents.


NYC1 Jun 28, 2000 9:47 pm

In regards to Fiji, there's a "travel warning" in effect for that nation http://travel.state.gov/fiji_warning.html

As someone metioned, maybe when things settle down deals will be available to this paradise.

bdschobel Jun 29, 2000 5:56 am

BostonBoy,

I see that you are Delta PM. Call Special Member Services (800-325-xxxx). Press 1 for reservations and 2 for international. Ask for the RTW desk. They can quote fares immediately (no call-back). They will also be rude to you, but that can't be helped!

As far SkyMiles, you earn them on the Delta segments, but not the others. Delta segments count as base miles, of course. No upgrades of any kind are permitted, according to the rude telephone people, even on Delta flights, which are entirely under their control. "Part of the contract...," supposedly.

You are limited to 25,000 total miles, including flying backwards when necessary to make connections. If you exceed 25,000, you can buy extra miles in 1500-mile increments.

That's about all I know on this subject. I've never actually bought a RTW ticket or flown using one, just inquired about them.

Bruce

3544quebec Jun 29, 2000 8:28 am

The rules for the SQ/SR/DL RTW fare ex-Australia (i think they are the same world-wide and the prices quote in AUD = 0.60 USD.FARE: RTWSQ/DL/SR

CONDITION: RWSQDLSR

RTW: SQ/SR/DL'GLOBAL EXCELLENCE'PUBL.

Code Description - Summary Rules
Fare Sheet: RTWSQ/DL/SR-RTW: SQ/SR/DL'GLOBAL EXCELLENCE'PUBL.


Airline Singapore Airlines / Delta Airlines / Swissair
Fare Source:


Validity: 1-01-99
31-12-05


Expires: 31-12-05


From Cities: ADELAIDE BRISBANE CAIRNS MELBOURNE PERTH SYDNEY
To Cities: AROUND THE WORLD

Fares Updated 18MAY00(SM)/24MAY00(SPB)/01JUN00(SM)


Published Fare FIRST: $10751; BUSINESS: $8085; ECONOMY: $3666


Validity MINIMUM: NIL MAXIMUM: 1 YEAR
VALID FOR DEPS UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE


Class FIRST : F (SQ) A*(DL) F (SR)
BUSINESS: J/C (SQ) D*(DL) D (SR) J/C (MI)
ECONOMY : Y (SQ) H*(DL) L (SR) Y/S (MI)
*SQ320/321 SIN-LON V.V. MUST BE BOOKED ON
F FOR FIRST CLASS TRAVEL.
*NOTE: BOOKING CODE FOR DL SHUTTLE FLTS
LGA-BOS/DCA MUST BE -
FIRST: Y; BUSINESS: M; ECONOMY: K


Child 67% (2 - 11 YEARS) NO UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN


Infant 10% (UNDER 2 YEARS) OF THE ADULT FARE


Stopovers ONLY ONE STOPOVER IS PERMITTED IN THE SAME CITY -
EXCEPT 2 PERMITTED AT SINGAPORE.


Notes * THIS IS THE "GLOBAL EXCELLENCE" ROUND WORLD
PUBLISHED ECONOMY/BUSINESS/OR FIRST CLASS FARE
- AS APPLICABLE TO THE CLASS OF TRAVEL PURCHASED
FOR TRAVEL ON THE SERVICES OF SINGAPORE AIRLINES/
SWISSAIR/DELTA AIRLINES/AND SILKE AIR.
1.WHEN FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS IS NOT AVAILABLE
TRAVEL SHALL BE IN THE NEXT LOWER CLASS OF
SERVICE HOWEVER NO REDUCTION IN FARE SHALL
APPLY.(NO FIRST CLASS AVAILABLE EX BNE-SIN)
2.BUSINESS CLASS PASSENGERS MAY UPGRADE TO
FIRST CLASS ON DELTA DOMESTIC SERVICES WITHIN
CONTINENTAL USA WHERE N O BUSINESS CLASS IS
OFFERED AT A SURCHARGE OF USD100 PER AFFECTED
FLIGHT SECTOR. THIS MUST BE SHOWN AS A 'Q'
SURCHARGE ON THE TICKET.
* SQ SERIES FLIGHTS SQ1000-9999 NOT PERMITTED.
* DL SERIES FLIGHTS DL3600-6999 NOT PERMITTED.
* A L L FARES/RULES SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT
NOTICE


Payment/ticket * THE FIRST OUTBOUND FLIGHT MUST BE CONFIRMED AT
TIME OF TICKETING. REMAINING SECTORS MAY BE
OPEN-DATED.
* TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT LEAST 7 DAYS
PRIOR TO DEPARTURE - SR WILL AUTO CANCELLED
RESERVATIONS 25 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE IF
UNTICKETED. NOTICE:- (APPLIES TO ECONOMY CLASS
FARES ONLY).
- F/J/Y TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED 7 DAYS PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE.
- ENDORSEMENT BOX: VALID SQ/DL/SR/MI ONLY.
- SPECIAL CONDITIONS APPLY.
- NON REFUNDABLE/NON ENDORSABLE/APEX
- TICKET STOCK: SQ/DL/SR/MI TICKET STOCK ONLY.


Tax COLLECT ALL TAXES


Cancellation BEFORE DEPARTURE: MORE THAN 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE
AUD20 FEE APPLIES.
INSIDE 7 DAY DEADLINE 25% PENALTY PLUS AUD20 ADMIN
FEE APPLIES.
AFTER DEPARTURE: NO REFUND.


Changes AFTER TICKETING DEADLINE: CHANGE TO FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR USD150.SUBSEQUENT SECTORS
MAY BE CHANGED.REISSUES ARE ALLOWED - USD25 PER
TRANSACTION.CHANGES THAT REQUIRE REVALIDATION
ONLY WILL BE AT NO CHARGE.
CHANGES PERMITTED FREE IN CASES OF CERTIFIED
DEATH/ILLNESS OF THE PASSENGER/ACCOMPANYING
IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER.


Routings 1) VALID SQ/DL/SR/MI SERVICE ONLY.
2) THE TOTAL JOURNEY MUST NOT EXCEED 33500 MPM.
FOR ROUTING VIA THE SOUTHWEST PACIFIC/AFRICA/
SOUTH AMERICA.JOURNEY MUST INCLUDE ONE
TRANSATLANTIC & ONE TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
3) MI SERVICES MAY BE USED AS PART OF THE
MAXIMUM PERMITTED MILEAGE.
4) THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED MILEAGE (MPM) MAY BE
INCREASED BY PAYING ADDITIONAL SURCHARGE AS
FOLLOWS:
1500 MILES- P/USD200 J/USD150 Y/USD100
3000 MILES- P/USD400 J/USD300 Y/USD200
4500 MILES- P/USD600 J/USD450 Y/USD300
5) ONLY ONE INTERNATIONAL DEPARTURE & ARRIVAL
TO/FROM THE POINT OF ORIGIN IS PERMITTED
6) TRAVEL MAY NOT CONTINUE THROUGH THE POINT OF
ORIGIN.
7) JOURNEY MUST INCLUDE ONLY ONE TRANATLANTIC &
ONE TRANSPACIFIC CROSSING.
8) INTERMEDIATE SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED AT PAX
EXPENSE. MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE TPM.
9) DL3600-6999 FLTS ARE N O T PERMITTED.
10) SQ1000-9999 SERIES FLIGHTS N O T PERMITTED


Suggested Route 33500: AUST/SIN/AMS/LON/NYC/MIA/LAX/TYO/SIN/AUST


Surface Sectors SURFACE SECTORS AT PASSENGERS EXPENSE MUST BE
INCLUDED IN THE SUM OF THE TPM FOR THE ENTIRE
JOURNEY.


Sidetrips PLEASE CHECK WITH AIRLINE


Combinations NOT PERMITTED.


Credit Cards PERMITTED


Another to consider if marketed in the USA is QANTAS/Delta/Air Pacific which might fit your routing better.I presume you can do ATL-LGW on DL then LON-AMS-LON QF on BA codeshare, LON-SIN QF (side-trip to Bali at extra cost - QF flies the sector but it would result in backtracking if you want to continue to Tokyo. SIN -SYD on QF, SYD-Tokyo QF, Tokyo - Nadi Air Pacific I think fly Tokyo -Nadi/Suva) NAN-Hawaii Air Pacific, Hawaii-ATL on Delta. I don't think this would involve any backtracking except for the permitted European side-trip.

The Fare rules are:

FARE: RTWQF/DL

CONDITION: RWMQFDL

RTW:QF/DL/FJ Y/CL.PUBLFARE-EX AUST

Code Description - Summary Rules
Fare Sheet: RTWQF/DL-RTW:QF/DL/FJ Y/CL.PUBLFARE-EX AUST


Airline Qantas / Delta Airlines / Air Pacific
Fare Source:


Validity: 1-01-99
31-12-05


Expires: 31-12-05


From Cities: ADELAIDE BRISBANE CAIRNS MELBOURNE PERTH SYDNEY
To Cities: AROUND THE WORLD

Fares Updated 22 JUNE 2000(SM)


Published Fare FIRST: $8754 ; BUSINESS: $6797 ; ECONOMY: $3398


Advance Purchase 14 DAYS P R I O R TO DEPARTURE - ECONOMY CLASS
FARES ONLY.


Validity MINIMUM: 8 DAYS MAXIMUM: 1 YEAR
DEPARTURES UNTIL FURTHE NOTICE


Class QF: A (FIRST) ; D (BUSINESS) ; M (ECONOMY)
DL: A*(FIRST) ; D (BUSINESS) ; Y (ECONOMY)
FJ: P (FIRST) ; J (BUSINESS) ; Y (ECONOMY)
*NOTE: NO FIRST CLASS AVAILABLE ON INTERNATIONAL
DL FLTS - PSGRS WILL TRAVEL IN NEXT LOWEST
CLASS WITHOUT FARE ADJUSTMENT.


Child 67% (2 - 11 YEARS)


Infant 10% (UNDER 2 YEARS)


Stopovers MINIMUM: 3 MAXIMUM: UNLIMITED - EXCEPT THAT A
MAXIMUM OF SIX ONLY WILL BE PERMITTED WITHIN THE
CONTINENTAL USA.
NOTE: FOR THIS FARE - A STOPOVER IS DEFINED AS A
STAY OF ONE NIGHT OR MORE.


Notes * THIS IS THE QANTAS AIRWAYS/DELTA AIRLINES/AIR
PACIFIC ROUND THE WORLD FARE FOR TRAVEL IN
ECONOMY/OR BUSINESS/OR FIRST CLASS - AS
APPLICABLE TO THE CLASS OF TRAVEL PURCHASED.
* WHERE FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS CABIN SERVICE IS NOT
PROVIDED - THEN TRAVEL SHALL BE IN THE NEXT
LOWEST CLASS OF SERVICE WITHOUT FARE COMPENSATION.
1.FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CT VIA QF/DL/FJ
2.THESE FARES ONLY APPLY IF PURCHASED BEFORE
DEPARTURE.
3.AT ANY TIME BEFORE DEPARTURE THIS FARE MAY BE
UPGRADED FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY TO A HIGHER
CLASS (BUSINESS/OR FIRST) UPON FULL PAYMENT OF
THE APPLICABLE DIFFERENCE. UPGRADING ON PER
SECTOR BASIS IS NOT PERMITTED - EXCEPTION: ON
DL SERVICES O N L Y - PASSENGRS MAY UPGRADE PART
OF THE JOURNEY TO BUSINESS/FIRST CLASS UPON
PAYMENT OF A SURCHARGE OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THE APPLICABLE LOWER FARE TYPE AND THE APPLICABLE
HIGHER FAE TYPE BETWEEN THE POINTS WHERE THE
BUSINESS/FIRST CLASS IS USED. THE APPLICABLE
DIFFERENTIALS MUST BE CALCULATED IN THE CURRENCY
OF THE COUNTRY WHERE THE UPGRADED SECTOR BEGINS
AND CONVERTED INTO THE CURRENCY OF ORIGINAL
PAYMENT AT THE BANKERS SELLING RATE.
* A L L FARES/RULES SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT
NOTICE


Payment/ticket * DEADLINE: 14DAYS (ECONOMY CLASS ONLY)
1.TICKETS MAY ONLY BE ISSUED FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING
WITHIN 12 MONTHS.
2."IMPORTANT NOTICE" REQUIRED
3.TICKETS AND ANY SUBSEQUENT REISSUE MUST BE
ANNOTATED "NONREF/APEX"
4.TICKET STOCK: QF/DL ONLY
5.ENDORSEMENTS VALID QF/DL/FJ ONLY


Tax COLLECT ALL TAXES


Cancellation BEFORE DEPARTURE/BEFORE DEADLINE: FULL REFUND
AFTER DEADLINE: CANCELLATION/NO SHOW - FORFEIT 25%
(ECONOMY CLASS FARES ONLY).
AFTER DEPARTURE - WILL BE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
FARE PAID AND JOURNEY COMPLETED (LESS 25% ON
ECONOMY CLASS TICKETS)


Changes BEFORE DEADLINE: PERMITTED.
AFTER DEADLINE: NOT PERMITTED TO FIRST OUTBOUND
SECTOR - TREAT AS A CANCELLATION (ECONOMY ONLY).
FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS - NO PENALTY APPLIES.
REROUTING INVOLVING TICKET REISSUE:
A)UNLIMITED - ONCE ONLY WITHOUT CHARGE.
B)ADDITIONAL - PERMITTED AT A CHARGE USD25 PER
TRANSACTION.
C)REVALIDATION IS PERMITTED FREE OF CHARGE.


Waitlist THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR MUST BE BOOKED -
SUBSEQUENT SECTORS MAY BE OPEN DATE BUT THE TICKET
MUST BE CLOSED TO QF/DL/FJ FLIGHTS.


Routings * VALID QF/FJ/DL FLIGHTS ONLY.
1.TRAVEL MUST BE IN A CONTINUOUS EASTBOUND/OR
WESTBOUND GLOBAL DIRECTION WITHOUT
BACKTRACKING. ONLY ONE INTERNATIONAL DEPARTURE
AND ONE INTERNATIONAL ARRIVAL PERMITTED IN
EACH COUNTRY. FOR THESE PURPOSES CANADA AND
USA ARE CONSIDERED ONE COUNTRY AS ARE DENMARK/
NORWAY AND SWEDEN. NO CITY SHALL BE PASSED
THROUGH MORE THAN ONCE EXCEPT IN CONJUNCTION WITH
PERMITTED SIDETRIPS.
2.INTERMEDIATE SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED AT
PSGR'S EXPENSE PROVIDED NO BACKTRACKING.
3.TRAVEL TO COMPLETE THE CT TO/FROM POINT OF
ORIGIN ON OTHER THAN QF/DL/FJ PERMITTED AT
PSGR'S EXPENSE.
4.TRAVEL VIA QF CODESHARE SERVICES OPERATED BY
AA BETWEEN LAX AND DOMESTIC POINTS OR RENO AIR
AIRCRAFT BETWEEN LAX AND SFO ONLY PERMITTED WHEN
QF TICKET STOCK IS ISSUED.
5.TRAVEL ON QF CODESHARE SERVICES OPERATED BY
BA BETWEEN LON AND PAR/AMS/VIE/MAN/ABZ/EDI/BFS
GLA PERMITTED ONLY ON QF TICKET STOCK.
6.TRAVEL ON DL FLT SERIES DL3000-3999/DL6100-6799/
DL7600-7999 IS N O T PERMITED.
7.TRAVEL NOT PERMITTED VIA SOUTH AMERICA.
8.PERMITTED BACKTRACKS:
A)BNE/CNS/MEL/SYD IN ONE DIRECTION PROVIDED
THE LINE UP OR DOWN IS MAINTAINED.
B)TYO-ADL/BNE/CNS/MEL/SYD OR V.V.
9.PERMITTED SIDETRIPS -
A)A FREE TWO SECTOR(OW/RT/SOJ) SIDETRIP (OR
SURFACE BACKTRCK) IS PERMITTED BETWEEN TWO
POINTS IN EUROPE - EXCEPT AS SHOWN BELOW:
1)A TWO SECTOR (RT/OJ) SIDETRIP IS PERMITTED
BETWEEN FRA AND ATH/BUH/IST/LED/MOW AT A
CHARGE OF USD500(J/P) AND USD250(Y). IF ONE
LEG OF THE SIDETRIP IS FREE AND ONE AT A
CHARGE-THE FULL CHARGE APPLIES. CONVERT AT
AT BANKERS RATE. IDENTIFY SURCHARGE AS 'Q'.
NOTE: THE CLASS OF THIS SECTOR MAY DIFFER TO
THAT OF THE RTW.
B)ADDITIONALLY WITH USA -
1)TWO FREE (OW/RT/SOJ) SIDETRIPS FROM ATL TO A
POINT IN CONTIGUOUS USA STATES BORDERING THE
ATLANTIC OCEAN.
2)TWO FREE (OW/RT/SOJ) SIDETRIPS FROM LAX TO A
POINT IN CONTIGUOUS USA STATES BORDERING THE
PACIFIC OCEAN.
C)SIDETRIPS (RT/SOJ) FROM LAX TO ONE OF THE
FOLLOWING: ACA/GDL/MZT/PVR AT A CHARGE OF
USD300(Y) AND USD450(F) PER SIDETRIP. IF
TRAVEL IS ONEWAY ECONOMY AND ONEWAY FIRST
CLASS THE AMOUNT WILL BE HALF THE ECONOMY AND
HALF FIRST CLASS CHARGE. INDENTIFY THE CHARGE
AS 'Q'.
D)A (RT) SIDETRIP FROM ATL TO BDA AT A CHARGE
USD300(Y) AND USD450(F) CLASS. IF TRAVEL IS
ONEWAY ECONOMY AND ONEWAY FIRST THE AMOUNT WILL
BE HALF ECONOMY AND HALF THE FIRST CLASS CHARGE.
IDENTIFY THE CHARGE AS 'Q'.
* TRANSFERS: PERMITTED BETWEEN QF/DL/FJ.


Suggested Route SYD/LAX/SFO/CVG/ATL/NYC/X ATL/BOS/X ATL/LON/SYD


Combinations ONLY PERMITTED WITH AUSTRALIAN ORIGINATING ADD-
ONS AND QANTAS DISCOVER AUSTRALIA FARES.
CONSTRUCTIONS: NOT PERMITTED WITH ADDONS.


Credit Cards PERMITTED


All these fare rules have been pilferred from the www.travel.com.au website

All that being said I still think a better option would be to forgoe Delta and use a Oneworld Explorer 4 continent fare










[This message has been edited by 3544quebec (edited 06-29-2000).]

RDURES1 Jun 30, 2000 4:54 am

You may want to check the Delta/Swiss Air partnership.. to the best of my knowledge they dissolved that last year..SR came over to AA and SA went from AA to DL http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

bdschobel Jun 30, 2000 7:13 am

The partnership was dissolved, but not the RTW contract. That remains alive and well.

Bruce

Guy Betsy Jun 30, 2000 10:29 am

There's also a DL and Cathay Pacific Airways RTW fare. You can check also with Cathay Pacific.

Better yet searching for all the info yourself is to go through a travel agent. They're the most apt to assist you in any way.


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