Originally Posted by enox5 (Post 32899329)

I think that FFPs will grow in popularity in coming 5 years. As airline struggle to fill seats, they will make them available via air miles bookings.

As the economy improves and demand picks up for flights, they won't need as many air miles bookings. At that point, we'll get back to "air miles devalations" and "program enhancements"

At that point, we will all come back to FT and complain that airlines don't value our loyalty!

Originally Posted by herro (Post 33326970)

They state that it will continue to be popular but the fact is that the customers must get use to that the value of miles/points will be lower and also the fatc that the redemption on award tickets will most likely get lowered or partly replaced to other things.

Originally Posted by Clincher (Post 31616963)

Joe Cortez’ FlyerTalk article, “No One Cares About Loyalty Programs Anymore?” Illustrates the dying aspect of FFP. No one cares? Or is it that only a few care? if it’s only a few then it’s an older generation. If so, then it will fade with them.

Originally Posted by tuphat (Post 31625031)

From The Times of London:

Ban air miles and stop frequent flyers, urge climate advisers

Air miles schemes should be banned because they encourage excessive flying, according to a report commissioned by the government’s climate change advisers.

The ban would affect millions of customers of British Airways, Virgin Atlantic and other airlines that have loyalty programmes. The report by Imperial College London for the Committee on Climate Change says that frequent flyers, who earn the most air miles, should be targeted as the government seeks to meet its emissions reduction targets.

It recommends “regulation to ban frequent flyer reward schemes that stimulate demand”. There are more than 220 frequent flyer schemes worldwide, with an estimated membership in excess of 200 million. A survey in 2017 found that 15 per cent of 30 to 59-year-olds in Britain were signed up to at least one frequent flyer programme.

The report says there is evidence that frequent flyer loyalty schemes are particularly damaging because they can result in people taking extra flights to “maintain their privileged traveller status”. It says that some people undertake “mileage runs” or “status runs” for the sole purpose of ensuring that they retain higher-tier membership of a scheme, and that some frequent flyers regard membership as being “related to status and social identity”.

More: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...sers-522gdkdwn

Originally Posted by artemis (Post 33329058)

And that means less reason to collect frequent flyer miles from credit cards (as opposed to flights). Why go out of my way to earn frequent flyer miles that must be redeemed on other things than flights when I can get the ultimate in flexibility via a 2% cash back card? Cash can be redeemed on EVERYTHING.

I am majorly frustrated at the moment because I rashly invited some friends along on a trip to Greece this fall, thinking I could use my miles to get us over there; I have enough for Business Class for all three of us going over, but not enough for Business Class coming back. If they take up my offer to accompany me on the trip, the absolute best I will be able to manage for the return is Premium Economy, and that will be a stretch. In the past I've always traveled solo, and haven't found miles too hard to use, but things change as soon as you have companions - and most people travel with family, I suspect. That really cuts the value prospect of miles. First World problem, I know.

Originally Posted by BRITINJAPAN4 (Post 33332169)

Yep using 90k miles for 3 people is 30k per person.

Originally Posted by artemis (Post 33333725)

Delta and American both want around 300k per person for one-way business class tickets! :eek: Alas, I simply don't have 900,000 SkyMiles or AAdvantage miles, so that's out. But with such ridiculous redemption prices added to the hassles of finding available ff tickets and the inferior schedules and routings such tickets usually have, it's getting harder to justify not just buying the cheapest suitable ticket with cash.