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invisible Sep 14, 2016 9:07 am

Longest award seat in C with least miles required
 
Last several years there were bunch of devaluations for award travel at major airlines. So the question is, at this moment, which program is offering longest award flight in C with least amount of miles required?

I personally have two candidates - EWR-HNL on UA's p.s. service (domestic flight) and SIN-CPT (international) with SQ.

Any other candidates?

Kagehitokiri Sep 14, 2016 10:28 am

using UA and SQ miles respectively for the flights you mentioned?

i wonder if most of this discussion is in those private forums/email lists

invisible Sep 14, 2016 11:11 am


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 27211264)
using UA and SQ miles respectively for the flights you mentioned?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 27211264)
i wonder if most of this discussion is in those private forums/email lists

Why? It is not a mistake fare, it is open, published information.

pinniped Sep 14, 2016 3:22 pm

The private lists might have the most intriguing routings you can finagle out of a website or phone agent for a given award.

But I'm interested in the answer to the basic question in the OP, which is just about the award charts themselves. C awards have been devalued pretty badly in the past couple years on a variety of airlines...where do some sweet spots still exist today?

I don't have any better answers. A long Hawaii award, if you can get it on a flight that has a decent C product, is a decent guess.

RichardInSF Sep 14, 2016 4:54 pm

I cannot imagine it is still possible but the best I ever heard of was KIX-SFO-ICN-SFO-KIX in F on United for the price of a KIX-ICN round trip, something like 20,000 miles at the time.

This was done long, long ago by (now) blogger LuckyCoins (Ben Schlappig) when he discovered the UA had no eligible flights between KIX and ICN. United allowed it for some unknown reason.

Taoyuan Sep 14, 2016 5:06 pm


Originally Posted by invisible (Post 27210871)
I personally have two candidates - EWR-HNL on UA's p.s. service (domestic flight) and SIN-CPT (international) with SQ.

Any other candidates?

EWR-HNL is not p.s. service, unless you mean p.s. to LAX/SFO, but then non-p.s. to HNL. EWR-HNL flight actually has very light service.

invisible Sep 14, 2016 6:40 pm


Originally Posted by RichardInSF (Post 27213045)
I cannot imagine it is still possible but the best I ever heard of was KIX-SFO-ICN-SFO-KIX in F on United for the price of a KIX-ICN round trip, something like 20,000 miles at the time.

This was done long, long ago by (now) blogger LuckyCoins (Ben Schlappig) when he discovered the UA had no eligible flights between KIX and ICN. United allowed it for some unknown reason.

That probably is the case with bug in routing - UA was famous to have bunch of them, but in last three years they've been fixed.

What I am interested in is nonstop flight from A to B on a cabin with lie-flat seats. This is why I mentioned p.s. for UA. But thanks to correction, now it does not qualify - it is not non-stop flight and seats on UA's EWR-HNL route are not lie-flat.

So, still waiting for other candidates.

invisible Sep 14, 2016 6:43 pm


Originally Posted by pinniped (Post 27212689)
I don't have any better answers. A long Hawaii award, if you can get it on a flight that has a decent C product, is a decent guess.

Wiki has list of 30 longest currently scheduled flights but I doubt that any of them would be useful - they are all premium routes. I am rather interested next 30 - there could be some interesting combinations.

JY1024 Sep 14, 2016 8:20 pm

As this is a "miles"-related topic that spans multiple programs, we'll move this over to MilesBuzz for further discussion. Thanks! :) /JY1024, TravelBuzz co-moderator

Mwenenzi Sep 14, 2016 9:35 pm


Originally Posted by invisible (Post 27210871)
... So the question is, at this moment, which program is offering longest award flight in C with least amount of miles required?

Frequent flyer miles/points are not equal to earn or burn, so the numerical value is meaningless. And then some ffp's/routes/airline have cash award surcharges.

Awards assistance tools Use at your own risk. These may not be up to date. If a multi segment award check the rules/cost carefully. (These are not recommendations).
- AwardAce: Compare Award Redemptions Across Airlines In Seconds -->http://www.awardace.com/
- Economical Excursionist's Tools to compare Frequent Flyer Mile Redemptions --> http://www.flyermiler.com/
- http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...ast-miles.html --> http://www.awardhacker.com/

michael_v Sep 15, 2016 8:30 am

62500 AS miles for US-HKG-JNB one-way in business on CX.

Kagehitokiri Sep 15, 2016 8:41 am

this cant be first thread on this topic right? but no master thread/wiki/etc. that is all i was saying.

Mwenenzi, that is the whole point, comparing numerical values


Originally Posted by michael_v (Post 27215450)
62500 AS miles for US-HKG-JNB one-way in business on CX.

nice

seems 38.25K for SQ (via SQ) in OP

SQ (via SQ) seems to have some good stop options

pinniped Sep 15, 2016 9:07 am


Originally Posted by invisible (Post 27213346)
What I am interested in is nonstop flight from A to B on a cabin with lie-flat seats. This is why I mentioned p.s. for UA. But thanks to correction, now it does not qualify - it is not non-stop flight and seats on UA's EWR-HNL route are not lie-flat.

So, still waiting for other candidates.

If you drop the nonstop requirement, I would still think East Coast U.S. to Hawaii, routed on a widebody with a decent C/J product, would be a decent add to the list.

Midwest to Hawaii...one-stop via the West Coast...isn't as attractive since it's quite possibly RJ + narrowbody. I'd rather save my miles and just fly it in Y.

Kagehitokiri Sep 15, 2016 9:23 am

are there a bunch of 3 class (with good J) to hawaii now?

Duke787 Sep 15, 2016 9:25 am

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