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Andrew Yiu Dec 15, 1999 2:20 am

More annoying people!!
 
These people just keep on coming.

On a recent flight I was on:

A group of 4 people in J class, there were apparantly from the same company, they seat themselves in 4 different row on the aisle seat. Row 2, Row 3, Row 3, Row 4... They were not upgraded as I had a look at the passenger list.

* They were having cross aisle conversation the whole trip. Very loud conversation too. Why not seat yourself together and there were lots of together seats up til checkin. I think they were hoping to grab all 2 J seats by themselves which they were unsuccessful. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

* One of the guy took out his Laptop during taxi and attempt to use it..he was spotted by a FA who asked him to stop. He was an elite, so he obviously know he wasn't suppose to do that. Is he really that desperate to show off his new DELL Laptop or what?

* They were passing their laptop and documents around cross aisle throughout which is very distracting to some other passenger.

* One of the guy kept on reading his "newspaper clippings" even when the FA was serving his meal to his seatmate, he ignore the FA and didn't attempt to stop reading to clear some room so the FA have reach across him to place the dish for his seatmate. The FA almost spill the whole dish on him...I wish she did. Is he trying to prove to everyone that he is a HARD WORKER?? Who cares I mean...

These people just never stop showing up...!

Regards,
Empress

LAX 1K Dec 15, 1999 8:46 pm

They really need some type of rules against rude or obnoxious behavior. Maybe part of the announcement...

"Also, please remember that we are all sharing this small space for the next X hours. As such, please refrain from loud conversations and be courtereous to your neighbors. A reminder, for safety reasons, your are obligated to follow all flight attendants directives. Thank you for Flying Courteous Airlines, we know you have a choice of airlines, and we are committed to make your experience the best possible"

RichG Dec 15, 1999 10:12 pm

I would just use the B-777 ejection seat. (Was there a thread about this already?) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

shadow Dec 15, 1999 10:20 pm

Rich, they've given you another chance to put your picture here... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Markie Dec 15, 1999 11:06 pm

Several years ago I was sat in row 16 upstairs on a 747-400 of Uniteds from SYD to SFO. In the seat next to me and in the seats behind were three executives from a certain juice company.

The chatted the whole 14 hours ( over the seat back, held meetings in the exit row), all whilst I tried to sleep. We Brits don't say much, but I've boycotted their product ever since. Now I see it's in trouble...well with fools like that on the payroll I'm not surprised.

JeffS Dec 16, 1999 6:44 am

In the obnoxious celebrity category: My brother was on a JFK-LAX flight and Daisy Fuentes, who was seated directly behind him in first (of course), spent two plus hours on her cell phone during the flight. The FAs evidently thought this was OK for a celeb.

l etoile Dec 16, 1999 7:39 am

On a flight back from Hawaii, a pilot vacationing with his family took his baby and proceeded to change the baby's messy diaper in the aisle of first class. ... This was one of those experiences that was so out there, all you could really do was laugh at the audacity.



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nathan detroit Dec 16, 1999 8:10 am

Placing a pig in a palace does not make him or her a prince or princess; unfortunately there are a few too many flying pigs who have no regard or respect for anyone but themselves. Two things that may help: swimming ear plugs which block out about 80% of dcb noise, capped with Noisebuster ear phones will keep about 95% out and a good sized piece of Limburger cheese, securely brough on board in a sealed Ziploc bag, will, when opened, elicit comments from nearby

passengers, allowing one to say something like "I'll close up my cheese when you close up your disturbing conversation." Chemist friend of Nathan's, also FF, has been working part time on what he hopes will be a marketable product called "Fartinabottle" which can be discreetly placed, and, when opened, will have the imagined effect. Just a speciality product for a speciality market.

No ideas, at least not printable, on diaper behavious - or lack thereof. Chalk it up to flying pigs, I suppose.

RichG Dec 16, 1999 8:58 am

1. Yes, shadow, I thought of that. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

2. If Nathan's chemist friend ever winds up on a flight with Hunnybear, we'll all get to read about it.

Catman Dec 16, 1999 11:35 am

CMDR CATCOP says this post is making his friend CATMAN very very sick.

Can we still to just flying stories and not any wild dreams of products like the above mentioned? CATMAN is nautious enough but to read something like this he's now very very sick.

CATMAN adds: I'm probably the only person who doesn't find the last few posts funny.

LAX 1K Dec 16, 1999 12:16 pm

Ok Ok..

How about if you refuse to listen to the flight attendant and are obnoxious, drunk you lose your FF miles?? Or better yet.. fined in miles??

LOL! I know I would watch myself.. the only thing is the FA would get on a power kick...

Hey, forget I said anything http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Aubie Dec 16, 1999 5:01 pm

Don't get me started...

Speaking of laptops, in 1st class on my last flight, and many other flights, why is it when they say "please discontinue use of all portable electronic equipment" seems to mean, keep right on doing as you were until the FA comes buy and has to give you a special request to stop. ???

Maybe the should put the manner's police in the sky with a big night stick and wack people when they get out of line. *L* ..get your feet off the wall!! WACK!!

3 weeks ago...a lady with rather ugly feet decided to show the whole cabin by letting them hang in isle(bare and uncovered) while she slept most of the 10-hour flight. They were so far in the isle, you had to gracefully maneuver around them to get past.
Imagine the person sitting across the isle from her?

Ok, I am going to shut up for now...but I could go on.

Jon Toner Dec 16, 1999 9:09 pm

Just put Sister Henrietta from St. Peter's into a FA uniform, and most passengers will enjoy the flight. The rest will complain about joint pain for a few days, but hey, knuckles are resilient. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Can't you see the ads? The Flying Nuns... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif


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BlondeBomber Dec 16, 1999 10:15 pm

I think we can all be annoying in our own way so a little tolerance is called for. After all, life would be pretting boring if we were all automatons, marching to the same tune. Too bad we all can't be perfect like me http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redface.gif

Some of this adds to the richness (and yes frustration) of everyday life . . . Now as for letting Bill Clinton or Newt Gingrich move in next to me, that might be "too tolerant". http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Rudi Dec 17, 1999 12:21 am

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jaguar99 Dec 17, 1999 1:05 am

Despite anyones tolerance, there will always be people who annoy you. If you want to travel, you must be willing to put up with them.

Their ignorance will catch up with them eventually.

As for the arrogant guys, people like me have the unique ability to put a end to this antisocial behavior.

Best Regards
Jason

Jon Toner Dec 17, 1999 10:14 am

The thought of having King William I, Newt, et. al. for neighbors would be enough to drive me to a trailer park in Nevada. Live with scorpions - no problem. Downwind from the nuclear test range - where do I sign?


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LAX 1K Dec 17, 1999 11:26 am

Ok..Ok... I agree there are alot of annoying things on Airplanes.. and it is not "tolerance" but "forced temporary acceptance". I think if something is wrong, it is wrong. The thing that bothers me is if someone is being rude or obnoxious the whole flight, then they start a conversation with you and you act so polite and never say anything.... gee we may hurt someone's feelings.

I have gotten to the point when flying to basically ask the person "Excuse me, I am trying to sleep or relax. I am sure you two can talk a little quieter, please, as a favor to another traveler." or " I am sorry, but you do not need to yell and berate the FA, we do not really want to hear your acting rude."

I think alot of this arrogance comes from, "Let me see what I can get away with" or "Hey, I better get whatever I can get from this airline/flight, before someone else beats me."

Ok.. off my soap box... just had an annoying flight last night and I was ripe for this conversation... (FYI for united passengers, watch out for the IAH-LAX flights on Thursday... crazy, and too many of us 1K's).. LOL!

Jon Toner Dec 17, 1999 9:29 pm

LAX 1K:

The legions of the self-obsessed are everywhere. Check out the God-forsaken wasteland of Shopping Malls around this time. Does anybody smile at anybody anymore, or has Madison Avenue successfully converted these holy seasons into a gameshow?

I was in a store picking up something for my wife. Most had the glazed-over look ("Must shop! Must shop! Spend money!"). A few had the "Is-it-Christmas-again-already?" scowl, and I spotted a couple, "I'll-teach-him-I'll-buy-this!" looks. Not a single smile.

Regardless of your faith, this time of year is celebrated by countless millions of people. I sure don't see it.



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"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own."


Catman Dec 18, 1999 8:50 am

OMNI for Jon TOner, it is that exact "Stepford" syndrome in malls around holiday time that this year I have done more than 70 percent of my shopping on-line or through catalogs.

When I HAD to go to a store, it was to get gift cards (Barnes & Noble, Bed & Bath) or to the Mall at Short HIlls where I tried to limit my shopping to stores where I would get quality service (Nordstrom's, Coach, Tiffany.)

The holiday ATTITUDE is also seen in some stores like "the world's biggest department store" where sales help is only concerned about talking and waiting for the shift to end.

It's inexcusable.

But inspite of this, sorry Jon, this is my favorite time of the year. Where I show my friends how much I care.

dgolds Dec 18, 1999 10:16 am

Continuing on the theme of the "Stepford syndrome"...

So I was in Wausau, WI last week, a town of about 50,000 people. I decided to venture into downtown Wausau one night to see if there was anything there. There was a pretty little shopping street, all lit up and Christmasey. I was walking down the street when to my surprise, a woman walking in the opposite direction smiled at me, a total stranger, and wished me "Merry Christmas" very cheerfully.

What a wonderful greeting. I haven't had anything like that happen to me during the holiday season in years.

What a gift. It made my week.

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essxjay Dec 18, 1999 3:23 pm

Tolerance of another's annoying habit and tolerance of rudeness are two different things, in my book.

For example, I personally think it's impolite to use finger nail clippers in public. I rarely saw it growing up, but I see it quite a lot now, including on planes. I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's just the way I was brought up. I've also seen it mentioned in two modern etiquette books. Still, it really is just an annoyance and I feel I have to tolerate it. But the two hours on the cell phone incident described above is just rude. In that case, I would have said something.

I think part of practicing good manners is being willing to speak up about it, whether on your own behalf or the behalf of others when it's appropriate to do so. I'm not saying I have the most impeccable manners in the world (Lord knows I've shot my mouth off a few times on these boards when I really shouldn't have), but it's something I continue to work on.

I had to smile at dgolds post. That's something a Portlander would do, only they do that sort of thing year round. Just taking a stroll through the neighborhood chances are nearly everyone I pass will say hello.


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