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Andrew Yiu Oct 10, 1999 11:21 pm

WESTBOUND flights
 
Just got off a flight YYZ - YVR and flight time was 5:10 compared to normal 4:20, pilot said it was headwinds and he also said flight to YYZ are early by 45 mins....just found this very weird.

Regards,
Empress

IsleTraveller Oct 10, 1999 11:47 pm

Empress
Not at all strange. I have been doing short E-W hops in the past few weeks and have heard that a few times.

KenHamer Oct 11, 1999 3:45 am

Between now and mid November (then again next April-May) the jet stream will be stronger. This is the prevailing northern hemisphere wind that blows from west to east. Last Saturday, on ORD-YVR, we were late by about 30 minutes due to 100+ knot headwinds, even though we had taken a much more southerly route to avoid the worst of it. Had we gone directly through it, we would have experienced headwinds > 150 knots.

Regards,

Ken Hamer

Dorian Oct 11, 1999 6:22 am

Very regular occurence....

Dorian

Dorian Oct 11, 1999 9:03 am

A moderately interesting graphical view of this is available on Boeing's website...showing the 'range' of their offereings:
www.boeing.com/commercial/767-400er/rng.html

You can see how the range is shorter on westerly bound flight by the 'squished' circle.

Dorian

megamiles Oct 11, 1999 11:14 am

Recently the winds have been very strong,

The in-flight time for YVR-YYZ is currently only 3 and a half hours !!! Unfortunately the flip flight is running around 5 hours.

Generally the YVR-YYZ is scheduled for around 4h 20min (total time) and the YYZ-YVR is scheduled for around 5h

Dorian Oct 11, 1999 11:18 am

Wow, those are some crazy times! Glad I'm not doing YYZ-YVR anytime soon (I hope)!

Dorian

jet Oct 12, 1999 4:17 pm

This is also why some of the longest-haul flights operate only "seasonally."

megamiles Oct 12, 1999 4:46 pm

Unfortunately the situation isn't improving anytime soon. My roomate flew YYZ-SEA last night and in-flight time was > 5h.

shadow Oct 12, 1999 5:47 pm

My flight PDX-ATL last week was 3:47 flying time, with 65-75 mph tailwinds.

The shortest direct ATL-PDX, ATL-LAX or EWR-PDX has been 5:15-5:30.

A few years ago, on a direct BWI-LAX, the headwinds were so strong we stopped to refuel in Linclon, NE.

Axey Oct 12, 1999 11:18 pm

Try a whopping 5 hours and 47 minutes for EWR-SFO last week. I would've NOT been a happy camper in coach.

Andrew Yiu Oct 12, 1999 11:23 pm

Wow....talk about getting your money's worth. You can almost make it to London in that time.

Regards,
Empress

JeffLewis2 Oct 12, 1999 11:42 pm

Are the winds blowing from the West stronger at a certain time of the year? What season?

I have many trips in Jan/Feb, East to West long hauls.

Andrew Yiu Oct 12, 1999 11:46 pm

Actually, Ken explaned it pretty well above.

Regards,
Empress

kokonutz Oct 13, 1999 7:37 am

Last November, I had an IAD-SFO on a 777 that took 6 hrs. 15 mins...The flight home took 3 hrs. 50 mins...


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