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i always thought it was in response to WN growing so quickly w/their very popular rapid rewards. fly 4 round trips, get a free ticket anywhere in the US. nobody in their right mind would fly UA or AA when WN was there if you were a short haul flyer. i assume that's how WN got such a huge market share between northern and southern california. to this day, i don't know anyone who flies anyone but WN. i am the oddball, but i only switched to a legacy after WN made it 8 round trips. with the 500 mile min on legacies, + elite benefits and a larger share of longer flights, i made the jump. it was hard at first cuz WN was so great, but i stuck with it...at least until now. who knows what's next.
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Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
(Post 21261923)
Mid-80s, when I started joining programs, most were 750, and there were 3x mile promos.
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Originally Posted by imgonnafly
(Post 21262060)
i always thought it was in response to WN growing so quickly w/their very popular rapid rewards. fly 4 round trips, get a free ticket anywhere in the US. nobody in their right mind would fly UA or AA when WN was there if you were a short haul flyer. i assume that's how WN got such a huge market share between northern and southern california. to this day, i don't know anyone who flies anyone but WN. i am the oddball, but i only switched to a legacy after WN made it 8 round trips. with the 500 mile min on legacies, + elite benefits and a larger share of longer flights, i made the jump. it was hard at first cuz WN was so great, but i stuck with it...at least until now. who knows what's next.
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Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski
(Post 21262368)
I recall 1000 mile minimums on Piedmont
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Yes,it was 1000 miles minimum in the early-mid 80s. Around 1985-86, Delta started a mileage war by offering triple miles for a short time. Everyone else followed suit, and the "short time" ended up going till the end of the year. For that brief period, you got 3000 miles per segment minimum. I guess that was the birth of mileage inflation for FF programs.
Dropped to 750 briefly, and then to 500, with some programs (UA) only giving actual flown mileage to non-elites. |
Originally Posted by leisure warrior
(Post 21266763)
500, with some programs (UA) only giving actual flown mileage to non-elites.
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Remember UA a few years ago eliminated the 500 mile minimum and quickly rescinded the move when everyone complained. Imagine that, people complained and they actually listened!
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I think it's to make sure that people remain loyal even for short flights. For long flights it's a no-brainer, you aren't going to deflect to another airline and give up thousands of miles in your preferred program. But honestly, most people could care less about another 300 miles. It's not going to make or break your elite status for the next year, and it's not going to get you much towards a free ticket. Also, the short haul routes are the ones that have the most LCC competition. Therefore, the 500 mile minimum provides an incentive to stay with your carrier.
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Amtrak today, which has a dollar-based system, almost from the beginning of AGR offered a 100-point minimum, which is a good deal for frequent users of fares of less than $100. So, even a $7 ticket results in 100 AGR points.
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Originally Posted by RustingInSeattle
(Post 21260324)
TWA used to have 750 mile minimums.
'The 500 mile minimum came from the 750 minimum.' Sort of like the how the 50% Gold RDM bonus came from the 100% Gold RDM bonus. |
I'm surprised more programs don't offer it more as RDM even if they don't as EQM.
QF offer 1,000 RDM minimum on all flights but as they use status credits for elite qualification they don't offer a minimum on those. |
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