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cronin85 May 16, 2013 8:32 am

Newbie question - Award tickets availability start?
 
When do airlines post their award ticket flights for the year? Is it at the beginning of the calendar year or few months before?

artemis May 16, 2013 8:38 am

First posting of award seats for any flight is generally 330 days from the flight date. After that, awards seats are released at unpredictable times (possibly with a slight increase a week or so before the scheduled departure date of the flight, if the airline still has significant numbers of unsold seats on that flight at that point).

So look early - and after that, look often!

Cohall May 16, 2013 8:39 am

Most airlines start releasing award seats between 330 and 365 days in advance. (nothing to do with the calendar year)

However, there's no real rhyme or reason to when or how airlines release award space, at least to us outsiders.

Start looking at approximately 330 days out, and continue to check or set up alerts with one of the services to notify you if they release the seats you're looking for. The availability could pop up at any time.

EDIT: Looks like Artemis beat me by a minute. Sorry for the duplication.

cronin85 May 16, 2013 8:52 am

Thank you both for the responses! What are the services I can sign up for to notify me? I need to try KVS tool when I get home from work today.

KennyBSAT May 16, 2013 8:56 am

Air Tran, Southwest and Frontier open availability on different schedules. Try dummy bookings (lots and lots of them) on the airline you plan to fly as practice, and you will get a good idea of what is likely to become available and when.

nux May 16, 2013 8:56 am

Depends what airlines you want to search for.

Some AAirlines you can search for awards from their website.
Some airlines (and alliances) you can signup to a particular FF program for free and search.

cronin85 May 16, 2013 8:59 am

I'm primarily interested in AA and US Airways. United flights have pretty good availability, but AA ones really suck at it and it just happens that I have most miles on AA

Banton May 16, 2013 9:01 am

awards
 
From my experience it is very hard to get awards from BA on any of their partners.

nux May 16, 2013 9:02 am

AA releases awards no earlier than 330 days in advance afaik. That does not mean that they will load them at 330 days in advance every day and never change it.

You can search for AA awards directly on their website, without even logging in.


Originally Posted by Banton (Post 20760761)
From my experience it is very hard to get awards from BA on any of their partners.

BA only controls awards on their own flights. They (like all OW airlines) are at the mercy of each others award inventory. The BA.com search is also poor and often doesn't work well with connections. Also note AA only releases MileSAAver awards to other OW partners.

KennyBSAT May 16, 2013 9:09 am

Spend some time here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/us-ai...ad-merged.html for using your US miles on the United flights you are finding. You have to call in to book them.

You may get some helpful suggestions if you post some specifics: Origin, destination, date range, number of passengers, class.

artemis May 16, 2013 9:15 am

I don't use it (yet), but I believe ExpertFlyer can send you award availability alerts.

One big headache is that the AA website doesn't show all Oneworld award availability (and I'm not aware of any Oneworld partner which does, either). So just checking AA's website won't show you all your options. A lot of folks recommend using the Qantas website in conjunction with AA's for that reason. Otherwise you're going to need to use more specialized tools like the KVS Tool and ExpertFlyer to track down all the available award seats.

Also remember that if the destination is one that AA flies to on their own metal, you always have the option of booking an AAnytime award (for twice the points, of course). It won't help if you need to go somewhere that only other Oneworld airlines service, but it's a useful option if you're going someplace AA services (especially if you don't have much flexibility in your travel schedule).

crimson12 May 16, 2013 9:23 am

If you don't mind a paid service, as noted above, ExpertFlyer will let you set up alerts that will e-mail you automatically if "at least X seats are available on flight 123 from JFK to LHR" or whatever. The alerts seem to check availability daily until the date of the flight; occasionally I'll get pinged by old alerts I set a while ago where seats just became available.

If you want to do it manually, Qantas and BA offer reasonably decent search tools, so you can use those to search oneworld award inventory (including AA). As noted above, AA only includes some partners online. Obviously you can call in to AA to have them search all partner airlines, but this will take much longer.

I find United's search tool to be good (enough) for Star Alliance, and (despite having a glut of DL miles) don't really fly SkyTeam that much, and when I do, I use ExpertFlyer.

Hope that helps.

cronin85 May 16, 2013 9:31 am

I will check out that thread and ExpertFlyer. I see on AA website that off season flights in Europe are 40k points RT, how much are they in season? 60k?

crimson12 May 16, 2013 10:04 am

You will find that most people on FlyerTalk are happy to help, but get frustrated at questions that could be answered with literally two minutes of work.

Google: "American Airlines Award Chart"
First result: http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/f...ward-chart.jsp

That chart says, from North America to Europe, each way:

Off-peak
20,000
-----------
MileSAAver Peak
30,000
-----------
AAnytime
60,000

You are right; an off-peak round trip is 40k. Peak r/ts at the SAAver level would be 60k, and AA always allows you to redeem at the "AAnytime" level for 2x the SAAver price.

JPG3392 May 16, 2013 10:13 am


Originally Posted by cronin85 (Post 20760916)
I will check out that thread and ExpertFlyer. I see on AA website that off season flights in Europe are 40k points RT, how much are they in season? 60k?

In-season RT flights to Europe are 60k, but the system calculates on a OW basis (30k in-season, 20k off). You would pay 50k total if one flight in-season and the other off-season. If you're interested in AA award travel to Europe, you should be aware 1) that IB award travel can't be booked online but requires a phone call to AA and 2) that award travel on BA is best avoided because of exorbitant fees. In addition, remember that US will eventually be incorporated into the AA program, a development that will certainly affect award availability in numerous ways.


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