Need help on NYC – SIN – Tokyo – INC - NYC using pts
Apr 10, 2013, 8:19 am
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Do you have to visit the cities in that order? Looks like you could do it all on one R/T ticket and you have enough miles for either *A or OneWorld
Apr 11, 2013, 7:31 am
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Are you really going to
INC (Yinchuan, China), or to ICN (Seoul/Incheon)? INC is not served by any of AA's partners.
If you are visiting Seoul, and can fly at least one segment on CX and at least one segment on JL, the whole itinerary can be had for 150K AA miles in J, as a distance-based Explorer award. In F, it would be cheaper to use a series of one-way awards, rather than an Explorer award. NYC-SIN-TYO-SEL-NYC should cost 200K AA miles per person in F, but connecting flights would be needed (no additional mileage) for NYC-SIN, and for SEL-NYC (or for SEL-ICN, if you were to visit TYO first).
Also, keep in mind that there are two airports serving Seoul: GMP and ICN.
UA might be a little cheaper, as I believe UA's roundtrip awards permit both a stopover and an open jaw.
Are you really going to
INC (Yinchuan, China), or to ICN (Seoul/Incheon)? INC is not served by any of AA's partners.
If you are visiting Seoul, and can fly at least one segment on CX and at least one segment on JL, the whole itinerary can be had for 150K AA miles in J, as a distance-based Explorer award. In F, it would be cheaper to use a series of one-way awards, rather than an Explorer award. NYC-SIN-TYO-SEL-NYC should cost 200K AA miles per person in F, but connecting flights would be needed (no additional mileage) for NYC-SIN, and for SEL-NYC (or for SEL-ICN, if you were to visit TYO first).
Also, keep in mind that there are two airports serving Seoul: GMP and ICN.
UA might be a little cheaper, as I believe UA's roundtrip awards permit both a stopover and an open jaw.
Apr 11, 2013, 9:02 am
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Apr 11, 2013, 11:02 am
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Like preivious poster said, it's a lot easier to go to ICN (Seoul) than it is to go to INC (China).
Air China flies to INC, but you have to go through Beijing. Since you most likely need to transit through Beijing for INC and can't go through the same airport twice on a single leg, you can construct the following roundtrip with INC as the destination:
1. NYC-SIN (stopover/open jaw) TYO-INC
2. INC - NYC
This would cost 120k in Business or 135k in first class. Ultimate Rewards transfer 1:1 to United Airlines.
This leaves the segment from SIN to TYO. Singapore Air flies this route nonstop and it's 30k in business class; Singapore Air doesn't really open its first class awards to other partners. You can also fly Japan Airlines with AA miles - also 30k in business.
But do clarify whether you need INC or ICN as ICN gives way more options.
Air China flies to INC, but you have to go through Beijing. Since you most likely need to transit through Beijing for INC and can't go through the same airport twice on a single leg, you can construct the following roundtrip with INC as the destination:
1. NYC-SIN (stopover/open jaw) TYO-INC
2. INC - NYC
This would cost 120k in Business or 135k in first class. Ultimate Rewards transfer 1:1 to United Airlines.
This leaves the segment from SIN to TYO. Singapore Air flies this route nonstop and it's 30k in business class; Singapore Air doesn't really open its first class awards to other partners. You can also fly Japan Airlines with AA miles - also 30k in business.
But do clarify whether you need INC or ICN as ICN gives way more options.
Apr 12, 2013, 6:14 am
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You're best bet is probably AA since you have the most miles there.
I am not sure if you can do this on AA miles, but I know this can be done on UA & DL miles.
1 round trip ticket with open jaw stopover:
NYC - SIN - TYO (open jaw stopover) ICN - NYC
1 one-way ticket:
TYO (NRT/HND) - SOL (GMP/ICN)
If I could, I would fly:
CX F: NYC - SIN (via YVR, HKG)
JL J: SIN - TYO Direct (Last I checked no F on those flights)
JL F: ICN - NYC (via TYO)
since TYO to SOL is a short 2-3 hour hop, just rough it in Y.
all the best.
I am not sure if you can do this on AA miles, but I know this can be done on UA & DL miles.
1 round trip ticket with open jaw stopover:
NYC - SIN - TYO (open jaw stopover) ICN - NYC
1 one-way ticket:
TYO (NRT/HND) - SOL (GMP/ICN)
If I could, I would fly:
CX F: NYC - SIN (via YVR, HKG)
JL J: SIN - TYO Direct (Last I checked no F on those flights)
JL F: ICN - NYC (via TYO)
since TYO to SOL is a short 2-3 hour hop, just rough it in Y.
all the best.
Last edited by DHalltheway; Apr 12, 2013 at 6:21 am
Apr 12, 2013, 6:23 am
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You may have some trouble routing through SIN as a stopover on the way to TYO on United if you go over the Pacific. You may have to go the long way, i.e., over the Atlantic.
Like he said, TYO to SOL is 750 miles and you can do this on Japan Airlines for 7500 BA miles in economy or 15k in Business.
Like he said, TYO to SOL is 750 miles and you can do this on Japan Airlines for 7500 BA miles in economy or 15k in Business.
You're best bet is probably AA since you have the most miles there.
I am not sure if you can do this on AA, but I know this can be done on UA & DL.
1 round trip ticket with open jaw stopover:
NYC - SIN - TYO (open jaw stopover) ICN - NYC
1 one-way ticket:
TYO (NRT/HND) - SOL (GMP/ICN)
all the best.
I am not sure if you can do this on AA, but I know this can be done on UA & DL.
1 round trip ticket with open jaw stopover:
NYC - SIN - TYO (open jaw stopover) ICN - NYC
1 one-way ticket:
TYO (NRT/HND) - SOL (GMP/ICN)
all the best.
Apr 12, 2013, 6:33 am
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You may have some trouble routing through SIN as a stopover on the way to TYO on United if you go over the Pacific. You may have to go the long way, i.e., over the Atlantic.
Like he said, TYO to SOL is 750 miles and you can do this on Japan Airlines for 7500 BA miles in economy or 15k in Business.
Like he said, TYO to SOL is 750 miles and you can do this on Japan Airlines for 7500 BA miles in economy or 15k in Business.
SIN - Destination
TYO - Stopover on the way back
Managed to price it in many times with little to no issue.
Apr 12, 2013, 6:39 am
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But yeah, I'd recommend BA miles on the ICN-NRT segment. Search for JAL availability on the BA.com website. AA and Qantas don't have it.
Apr 14, 2013, 8:16 am
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Your other suggestion is:
NYC - SIN, fly CX using AA pts, 55k biz/67.5k F;
SIN - TKY, fly JL using AA pts, 30k biz/40k F;
TKY - SOL, fly JL using BA pts, 7.5k eco/15k biz;
SOL - NYC, flyJL using AA pts, 50k biz/67.5k F
Dose JL charge fuel surcharge?