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UA Fan Jan 31, 2013 3:43 pm

My wife's colleague was about to spend 25k AA miles on a DFW - IAH flight. Common sense prevailed.

vijaykcm Jan 31, 2013 3:47 pm

A friend of mine used 40000 Delta SkyMile to buy a one way MSP-SEA ticket and was bragging to me that she got the ticket for $2.5.

vijaykcm Jan 31, 2013 3:53 pm


Originally Posted by rvandeut (Post 20158913)
It's also a matter of people's circumstances. If you don't have vacation days to travel a whole lot and if you want something that you probably wouldn't buy for yourself, why not use the points to redeem something other than airfare or hotel stays. The way I look at it, majority of the points are 'free' anyways and you can always accumulate more for when you do have the time to travel.

Personally, I love traveling and seeing new places, but everyone is different :)

+1

luv2ctheworld Jan 31, 2013 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 20162122)
My wife's colleague was about to spend 25k AA miles on a DFW - IAH flight. Common sense prevailed.

I wonder at what point did that person realize 25K miles was worth more than an intra-state flight.


Originally Posted by vijaykcm (Post 20162144)
A friend of mine used 40000 Delta SkyMile to buy a one way MSP-SEA ticket and was bragging to me that she got the ticket for $2.5.

That's a waste... though given that it's Delta, I am not surprised


Originally Posted by Tummy (Post 20161541)
I stopped worrying what other people do. I can only set a good example and be helpful if they show interest.

^ and have the comfort of knowing the same amount of miles wasted by others means another business class seat or low award seat for those in the know :D

pinniped Jan 31, 2013 4:00 pm

I used 25k UA last year for a one-way last-minute BOS-MCI flight. No Y seats were available...I was just thankful an F one was. Otherwise would have been about $500 to fly Y.

I've redeemed lots of 25k coach awards, mostly between the U.S. and Canada on routes with little competition and high fares. I don't want F awards at all: always plan ahead and find Y awards. Who wants to spend an extra 25k to get a couple one-hour segments in front on a CR7 or E170?

Internationally, I redeem a mix of cabins depending on where I think the best value is for that airline, route, and travel situation. This summer...five of us flying together to Europe including two kids...it's coach awards on Aer Lingus using Avios. We can slum it for 7-8 hours each way in order to hold back enough Avios to do another Europe trip in 2014. This past year...two of us flying together to North Asia (HKG and NRT)...it was two J awards using US miles. The reasonably small number of incremental miles there were totally worth it for five total segments and 35-ish total hours on the plane.

AA_EXP09 Jan 31, 2013 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by robertw477 (Post 20149556)
My father told me today that the travel agent he called said his 155K Starwood points can save him $1000.00 on a cruise ticket. YIKES! :-) That is .6/10th of a cent per point. I wonder how many people have no clue the correct way to use miles and points and when they finally do redeem end up cleaning out their accounts. In a way that makes the programs even more lucrative as when people finally accumulate a decent amount of points, they end up wasting them on a poor redemption. I tried to tell him the true value of Starwood points which I value at 2-5 cents each. The absolute worst case is 1.25 cents each standard transfers to airlines and getting standard economy domestic seats. Its like somebody telling you they did great spending 50K miles for a common standard coach ticket and thinking it was a hot deal. He said that he wanted to ask me first if it was a good deal.

Rob

Or with people using AV miles and then not relaizing the award is split in 2 due to mixed classes.
Some are even more ignorant than that, though.
'Where the heIl is BOG?'
'Columbia, in Northern South America'
'Where's South America?'
*facepalm*

UA Fan Jan 31, 2013 4:11 pm

What's 'facepalm'?

AA_EXP09 Jan 31, 2013 4:15 pm


Originally Posted by srdshelly (Post 20158283)
I'm with your dad. I want more fee trips, and don't really care where I sit in the plane. The extra "value" you get by redeeming for premium class seats is simply referenced to the insane retail prices of such service, and the extra comfort may indeed be worth the extra miles to a lot of people. But I don't really believe that I'm getting less "value" if I enjoy four international trips in coach this year rather than two in premium cabins, just because the retail price of my travels would be less.

Not quite.
Catering alone is already worth more than $400 on a ultra long haul.
Add to the seat alone I would pay $15/hr (on international product.)

amolkold Jan 31, 2013 4:15 pm


Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 20162291)
What's 'facepalm'?

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/...NoKurayami.jpg

luv2ctheworld Jan 31, 2013 4:19 pm


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 20162325)

:-: Bonus Point for the expression using Daniel Jackson (Michael Shanks) from Stargate: SG-1 ^

UA Fan Jan 31, 2013 4:33 pm

Thanks. How do you post images? Searched for some tips and cannot seem to understand

AA_EXP09 Jan 31, 2013 4:39 pm


Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 20162433)
Thanks. How do you post images? Searched for some tips and cannot seem to understand

Upload to twitter/other photo sharing service and paste the link.
(I have throwaway accounts if you need.)

penner42 Jan 31, 2013 4:47 pm


Originally Posted by luv2ctheworld (Post 20162349)
:-: Bonus Point for the expression using Daniel Jackson (Michael Shanks) from Stargate: SG-1 ^

Indeed.

MDtR-Chicago Jan 31, 2013 7:18 pm


Originally Posted by srdshelly (Post 20158283)
The extra "value" you get by redeeming for premium class seats is simply referenced to the insane retail prices of such service, and the extra comfort may indeed be worth the extra miles to a lot of people.

It doesn't have to be a retail comparison. If you can be truly honest with yourself - how much would I spend if I could walk up and buy an upgrade from Y to J in cash? Maybe that number is only, say, $200. It's still worthwhile to know your own number so you can do the critical evaluation. Sometimes, for one reason or another, the difference between Y and J miles levels might make it worthwhile.


Originally Posted by yoonny (Post 20161462)
We NEED people to waste points. If everyone is a FT'er and maximizes the redemption value, it is not financially viable for all these companies to continue to offer these programs without huge inflation. We need to thank the points wasters.

Definitely. Why waste time arguing with them when they are supporting us and our travel?

hobo13 Jan 31, 2013 9:37 pm


Originally Posted by kvs25 (Post 20156135)
I am embarrassed to say that I used 20k Priority Club points on a steam mop. I was new to the game and had no idea about the Points Break program.

Don't feel too bad.... if your steam mop was worth $140, you essentially broke even! (I'm a dude. I have no idea what a steam mop is, how to use it, or what it's worth!)


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